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There it is again! Pastor's North American Community.

What do you suppose he means by this?

The United States, Canada and Mexico ...as they work to integrate a developing country into a First World economy.
1 posted on 12/26/2006 7:03:45 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

People will call it a conspiracy theory right up to the day they decide that our gun laws need to "mesh" with Canada's. That day will be too late.


2 posted on 12/26/2006 7:05:55 PM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Just another Commie bong dream put down on paper.


3 posted on 12/26/2006 7:06:20 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (When I was a kid, "global warming" was known as "the weather.")
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To: hedgetrimmer
The press secretary for the California Republican Party is the son of illegal aliens who came the USA 35 years ago. In this article he chronicles how in recent years there has been a massive change in the number and kind of illegals coming north. Including a crimnal element that is causing a deterioration in the quality of life of Americans. Consider this article Illegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily Death toll in 2006 far overshadows total U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq, Afghanistan

People have been referring to the Captains Quarters as a rebuke to the assertions of the article. The Captain's Quarters makes the assertion that --for the numbers to be true --it would have to be the case that a small number of people were committing a lot of crimes. That is to say-- far outside the statistical norm for the USA. The problem is that he didn't actually check the federal stats. As it happens it is the case that illegals tend to be very repeat offenders.

Below are some government stats to back up the article's assertioms

From the FBI crime statistics * An estimated 16,692 persons were murdered nationwide in 2005, an increase of 3.4 percent from the 2004 figure. * Murder comprised 1.2 percent of the overall estimated number of violent crimes in 2005. (Based on Table 1.) * There were an estimated 5.6 murders per 100,000 inhabitants.

Illegal Alien Crime Wave

On April 7, 2005, the US Justice Department issued a report on criminal aliens that were incarcerated in federal and state prisons and local jails. In the population study of 55,322 illegal aliens, researchers found that they were arrested at least a total of 459,614 times, averaging about 8 arrests per illegal alien. Nearly all had more than 1 arrest. Thirty-eight percent (about 21,000) had between 2 and 5 arrests, 32 percent (about 18,000) had between 6 and 10 arrests, and 26 percent (about 15,000) had 11 or more arrests. Most of the arrests occurred after 1990. They were arrested for a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses, averaging about 13 offenses per illegal alien. One arrest incident may include multiple offenses, a fact that explains why there are nearly one and half times more offenses than arrests. Almost all of these illegal aliens were arrested for more than 1 offense. Slightly more than half of the 55,322 illegal aliens had between 2 and 10 offenses.

CRIMINAL HISTORY

More than two-thirds of the defendants charged with an immigration offense were identified as having been previously arrested. Thirty-six percent had been arrested on at least 5 prior occasions; 22%, 2 to 4 times; and 12%,1 time. Sixty-one percent of those defendants had been convicted at least once; 18%, 5 or more times; 26%, 2 to 4 times; and 17%, 1 time. Of those charged, 49% had previously been convicted of a felony: 20% of a drug offense; 18%, a violent offense; and 11%, other felony offenses. Twelve percent had previously been convicted of a misdemeanor. Defendants charged with unlawful reentry had the most extensive criminal histories. Nine in ten had been previously arrested. Of those with a prior arrest, half had been arrested on at least 5 prior occasions. Fifty-six percent of those charged with a reentry offense had previously been convicted of a violent or drug-related felony. By contrast, under half of those charged with alien smuggling, a third of those charged with unlawful entry, and just over a quarter those charged with misuse of visas and other charges had previously been arrested. The criminal histories of these defendants were generally less extensive: more than 70% had been previously arrested fewer than 5 times. Sources: US Department of Homeland Security, US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, National Security Institute, National Association of Chiefs of Police, US Department of Justice
5 posted on 12/26/2006 7:09:39 PM PST by ckilmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Wanted to know more about this guy and found this at...

http://www.american.edu/ia/cdem/staff/rpastor.html

"Dr. Pastor has combined a career of scholarship, teaching, and public policy in government and in non-governmental organizations. He was National Security Advisor for Latin America (1977-81) and has been a consultant to the Departments of State and Defense. Before coming to American, Dr. Pastor was Goodrich C. White Professor of Political Science at Emory University, and from 1985-98, he was a Fellow and Founding Director of the Carter Center's Latin American and Caribbean Program and the Democracy and China Election Projects. At The Carter Center, he founded and served as the Executive Secretary of the Council of Freely-Elected Heads of Government, a group of 32 leaders of the Americas, chaired by former U.S. President Jimmy Carter. This Council mediated elections in more than thirty countries around the world."

Another one of Jimmuh Cahtah's boys.


6 posted on 12/26/2006 7:26:00 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: calcowgirl; nicmarlo; texastoo; William Terrell; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; cinives; Czar; ...

More stuff comin' at ya.


7 posted on 12/26/2006 7:29:02 PM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
..build confidence in the idea of a true North American community.

Stopped reading there. Globalist crap.

8 posted on 12/26/2006 7:30:14 PM PST by afnamvet (It is what it is.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
"The incoming government(Calderon) has explicitly supported both the Plan Puebla Panama economic integration project with Central America(and Columbia), and has also recommitted Mexico to the commercially important Security and Prosperity Partnership with Canada and the United States."

Source

It take ten to tango.

11 posted on 12/26/2006 7:45:14 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: hedgetrimmer
To do so, the new leaders must change the agenda from illegal immigration to North American development and resolve to narrow the income gap between Mexico and its two northern neighbors...

I'm all for this as long as the "leaders" will agree that the ONLY avenue to lasting prosperity is freedom, limited government and rule-of-law!

13 posted on 12/26/2006 8:09:20 PM PST by Onelifetogive (I don't have to show you no stinkin' tagline!)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Or this:

"resolve to narrow the income gap between Mexico and its two northern neighbors"

That's in line with Hitlery's "We're going to take things away from you for your own good" or whatever it was.

Makes me sick.


14 posted on 12/26/2006 8:22:23 PM PST by little jeremiah (Only those who thirst for truth can know truth.)
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To: hedgetrimmer; All

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x9g3xVyJFc

If you've never seen the end of this, please watch!


16 posted on 12/27/2006 3:49:59 AM PST by Kimberly GG (PATRIOTS MARCH TO "TAKE BACK AMERICA" (www.lframerica.com ))
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To: hedgetrimmer

Well...we are NEVER going to get a fence, wall, or anything else that even remotely resembles something to block the so and so's that illegally jump the border. Congress and everybody else doesn't give a rip that the so and so's rape and murder our women, molest our children, and just do an all-around destruction job on societal institutions. Heck, the only thing D.C. cares about is their own selfish welfare. Teddy is all but turning cartwheels since Hayworth and the other fella are no longer there to impede his communist agenda. Is the U.S going to hell in a hand basket because Teddy and his cohorts deem it to be so? And everybody else is such a coward they are just shakin' in their boots.

Regarding this B.S. of North American unity, well...that's just what it is. Duh...
I've said it before and I'll say it again, "Who the hell does Congress think they are selling us down the river to the North American Alliance. The people of the United States NEVER agreed to such an absurdity. Mexico is a flat-out leach, and they're leaching off the United States citizens. And all, yes ALL of D.C. is corrupt by subscribing to this insanity and they are utterly hateful and neglectful in doing such a thing...


17 posted on 12/27/2006 6:43:14 AM PST by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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To: hedgetrimmer
Americans settled in what is now the United States, because they wanted their own communities. You cannot look at the differences in the cultures, even among Anglo-Saxon and British Celtic rooted settlers, in different Colonies, in the same era, and not see that pattern. The idea of some sort of Continental Community, such as this writer postulates, is a negation--not an affirmation--of the American experience.

This sort of lunacy is dooming us to the fate of Rome. The difference being that Rome took a thousand years to go from a dynamic birth to death. Our egalitarian, compulsion driven collectivist conformists will succeed in destroying us in less than half that time, unless people wake up.

Americans and Mexicans are not interchangeable. The only way to equalize them is to impose Communism over both. Hell, you cannot equate New Englanders and Virginians--nor should anyone, who understands traditional American concepts, want to. It was no accident that the framers of our Constitution left questions of local cultural values--including religion and the criminal codes--to the several and separate States.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site.

21 posted on 12/27/2006 1:17:36 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: hedgetrimmer

Ah, Geez. Not this NAU !#@$#%$^%&^*^&(*) again!!!


23 posted on 12/27/2006 4:15:45 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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The United States, Canada and Mexico ...as they work to integrate a developing country into a First World economy.

It's called welfare bennies for Mexico and Mexicans...

24 posted on 12/27/2006 4:16:36 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (“Don’t overestimate the decency of the human race.” —H. L. Mencken)
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To: hedgetrimmer; B4Ranch; Ben Ficklin; 1rudeboy; Toddsterpatriot; Reaganwuzthebest

So the lord and master of free trade and socialism, Pastor, wants the American taxpayer to "give" Mexico $20 billion a year for a decade. NAFTA is only 12 years old and still a failure? How much more, how much more will it take to make this monstrosity of NAFTA into a success? How long will it take to make NAFTA into a success? How many times is NAFTA going to be rewritten?

This jerk wants us to build Mexico's roads. I wonder why Cintra is not good enough for Mexico if it is free without any taxpayers financing them through PPP's. We really don't want to know the answer to that question.

Certainly, we need to pay for the education of Mexico's children. Maybe we can establish a huge education budget just for Mexico. Sarcasm.

Isn't it wonderful that Americans will lower their working wages to Mexico's wages? I feel that we will all look alike. Notice to Todd. I am using the word "feel". How else can I explain all of this socialism of the free traders?


25 posted on 12/27/2006 5:59:37 PM PST by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: hedgetrimmer

Unity? Or unification?


74 posted on 12/28/2006 8:46:18 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Joseph Lieberman, is now one of the most powerful men on Earth)
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