To me, it seems like these guys are taking the decades-old argument of the pocket-passer vs. the scrambler and attempting to put a racial spin on it.
To: Chi-townChief
Does Steve Nash have athleticism?
2 posted on
12/24/2006 9:06:54 AM PST by
ardara
To: Chi-townChief
Lowered expectations time.
3 posted on
12/24/2006 9:08:43 AM PST by
brivette
To: Chi-townChief
It would help if Vick had receivers who could actually catch the ball. One thing that hurt Vick is that in 2002 or so he lost fullback Bob Christian (suffered a career ending neck injury) who was a very effective blocker as well as runner. Falcons have never really had an effective running back who could also pick up that rushing LB or DE to block him before he gets to Vick.
4 posted on
12/24/2006 9:09:38 AM PST by
fkabuckeyesrule
(Go Bucks.....beat FLORIDUH!!!!)
To: Chi-townChief
I agree. What difference does color make? Just throw the ball, dang it!
5 posted on
12/24/2006 9:09:51 AM PST by
llevrok
(My seat back is never in the full and upright position.)
To: Chi-townChief
I was thinking the same thing. Let me stretch it a little further.
historically, offensive linemen are white.
Over the years, Vick, Brooks and Daunte Culpepper have consistently been sacked more than the likes of Manning and Brady. Vick has been sacked 39 times this season – one more combined than Brady (24) and Manning (14) – which is just under three per game. That's an odd number for someone who's seemingly hard to catch.
there must be a reason for an "odd number"....
I aint saying, I'm just saying....
6 posted on
12/24/2006 9:13:35 AM PST by
stylin19a
("Klaatu Barada Nikto")
To: Chi-townChief
Maybe Vince Young has a take on this.
7 posted on
12/24/2006 9:13:39 AM PST by
neodad
(USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
To: Chi-townChief
All I know is that with Drew Brees as the Saint's starting QB no one misses Aaron Brooks.
8 posted on
12/24/2006 9:13:47 AM PST by
Bogey78O
(<thinking of new tagline>)
To: Chi-townChief
I have to admit that most of the black quarterbacks who come to my mind ARE scramblers, or else option guys in college.
Notre Dame is getting two frosh qbs -- Demetrius Jones and Jimmy Clawson. Guess which one's the athletic one?
And then Tony Rice and Kevin McDougal were both option guys too, but Rick Mirer and Ron Powlus (ugh) were not.
Warren Moon of the Oilers comes to mind as an exception, and of course Brett Favre is a white guy who won't hesitate to run, although it's not pretty when he does.
I don't know, maybe we need a movie about this -- White Men Can't Scramble?
To: Chi-townChief
Well, in Michael Vick's case, he gets so much scrutiny because he has sex with random women and gives them a fake name. A really cheesy fake name.
11 posted on
12/24/2006 9:17:45 AM PST by
RichInOC
(¡Viva Mexico!)
To: Chi-townChief
Gandy, who could have a post-football future in anything from broadcast to working as a team executive...Could be. His take is certainly, shall we say, interesting.
The problem I see with any team where their q-b is their main rusher is that they have no running game. With no running game the pressure on the q-b leads to sacks... black or white.
You definitely need the threat posed by a mobile q-b. Witness the Washington Redskins with Brunnel vs Campbell. But you don't want him running around in the backfield looking for a receiver and then taking off to risk life and limb..IMO.
Oh, wait a minute, Campbell is black.
Oh well, there goes that theory.
12 posted on
12/24/2006 9:19:18 AM PST by
evad
To: Chi-townChief
Bulger (white QB) gets sacked about 10 times a game.
Course our O-line sucks.
13 posted on
12/24/2006 9:19:30 AM PST by
demsux
To: Chi-townChief
You hit the nail on the head: they are trying to put a racial spin on a pure sports story, which is so typical for leftist MSM outlets like Yahoo. In case you haven't been following it, the sports media has just as much of a political agenda as the news media and is dominated just as much by a left mindset. In fact, even the owners and executives of professional sports teams are predominantly left-leberal, perhaps more so as a group than their employee coaches and players.
To: Chi-townChief
All opinions in the above article are racist. We can't talk, write or air things on racial subjects in sports.
Paging Rush Limbaugh!
/sarc.
Leni
16 posted on
12/24/2006 9:23:29 AM PST by
MinuteGal
(The Left takes power only through deception.)
To: Chi-townChief
Lame, race-based excuses for quarterbacks who make BAD decisions and who rely on their feet, not their arms and brains. Successful, championship caliber teams have a good quarterback and a good runningback, not a good-running quarterback.
18 posted on
12/24/2006 9:33:41 AM PST by
ExpatGator
(Extending logic since 1961.)
To: Chi-townChief
I always thought Kent Graham was lightskinned! /sarcasm
20 posted on
12/24/2006 9:36:45 AM PST by
mcg2000
(New Orleans: The city that declared Jihad on The Red Cross.)
To: Chi-townChief
Why does your headline annex have black in quotes? Is Vick really white?
22 posted on
12/24/2006 12:49:34 PM PST by
gcruse
(http://garycruse.blogspot.com/)
To: Chi-townChief
Quite simply, a team that "needs" a scrambling QB is generally one that has a particularly poor offensive line..so during the QBs formulative first couple of seasons, they DO need to scramble a lot and as they are able to do it it is what they do. By the time the team improves - if it improves - the time to train the QB to be a passer is past as the QB already has instilled in them the running way of thinking, and the line is probably ruined as well.
So there is a grain of truth in the article...though perhaps not for the reasons stated.
26 posted on
12/26/2006 12:42:27 PM PST by
lepton
("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
To: Chi-townChief
It's not black quarterbacks, it's running quarterbacks.
Notice how he didn't mention Warren Moon or Doug Williams.
I couldn't stand McNabb until he got hurt and started staying in the pocket.
28 posted on
12/27/2006 6:06:57 AM PST by
Tribune7
(Conservatives hold bad behavior against their leaders. Dims don't.)
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