Posted on 12/12/2006 10:07:00 AM PST by SunkenCiv
...With a record of 2-11, the silver-and-Honolulu blue are firmly entrenched at No. 32 on any power poll in this spiral arm of the galaxy. Entrenched, that is, until another loss drops them behind Ohio State, Florida and the Hamburg Sea Devils. Think it can't get worse? Hey, this is the Lions. NFL schedule makers saw fit to arrange the endgame Kitty Cats' so, so long season likewise: at the Green Bay Packers where the Lions haven't won since a guy named Brett Favre took over there (that's right, 1992); against the Chicago Bears in a game which figures to see Motor City backers immortalize the chant "Fire *&#!!%&ing Millen!"; and at the Dallas Cowboys , who on New Year's Eve will probably looking to bag the No. 2 seed in the NFC... Kevin Jones, who was knocked out of the loss to the Minnesota Vikings on Sunday, figures to be out for the remainder of the season... Pro Bowl nominee Shaun Rogers... was slapped by the commissioner after testing positive for steroids. The judgment had Rogers forcibly sitting out four games and giving up $250,000. Naturally, "Big Baby" was innocent, protesting that the positive test represented a product that the 354-pound Rogers used to help him control his weight. Or he has asthma. Or he thought they were Shawne Merriman's Pez. Or something... Team officials announced yesterday that WR Mike Williams - you remember him: the former first-round draft pick cum The Most Useless Player in the NFL Today - flunked a weigh-in. At 240 pounds, Williams only missed the target set by Rod Marinelli and Co. by 20. Though no punitive measures have been mentioned, any punishment would seem pointless other then some quality time on the bench... Fire &#!!%&ing Millen.
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['Civ whispers] In the second half, they kept KC out of the end zone. I only watched the last 3 minutes or so, but throughout the game could hear viewer reactions down the hall at work, so I pulled up the Google page on the game, which covers it with score, play by play, field position, and who's holding the ball, and checked it once in a while doing some computer work.
Oh yeah, the playoffs. Matt’s got his ring and I’ve been glad of that. I’ll check YT from here (not the Roku app, the way the YT ads are done on there is like old people bang) for the highlights. Must have been one of those Peacock games that have generated some whining.
How the Lions beat the Rams to snap a 32-year playoff win drought and spoil Matthew Stafford’s return
Detroit held on for a 24-23 victory and will host either the Buccaneers or Eagles next week.
Colton Pouncy, Jourdan Rodrigue and The Athletic NFL Staff
January 14, 2024 at 11:46 PM EST
https://theathletic.com/live-blogs/nfl-wild-card-nfc-rams-lions-updates-playoffs/0K6XtCP9atcG/
I rarely watch a game anymore, but did some running around and used the phone-to-car hookup to inquire about the score. Watched the highlight vid on YT. Lions have a 13-2 record, and Philly lost today.
Anyway, this was funny, I enjoyed it in the highlights, and someone avast-ye-swabbed the clip of it adding their own commentary. Dan Campbell’s and Jared Goff’s after-action press meetings were on point.
Jared Goff pretends to fall down, and then throws a Touchdown
Detroit Lions Vs Chicago Bears [final 34-17]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4TbMh9Sg64
Well, that was a public school beatdown. 15-2 record (1st time ever), first seed in NFC (1st time ever), bye week in the playoffs (1st time ever), three teams from the black 'n' blue division are in the playoffs (1st time in a long while).
What a game and what a regular season. I think they’re unstoppable. They dominated a 14-2 team in a huge pressure game.
Kings Of The North....Again!
I think that the Lions were pushed to the last weekend to secure the division and bye, will make them a better team in the playoffs.
Strong bench, even stronger coaching. Their star defensive player was injured early on, and tonight he was on the sidelines, firing them up. Glad they really poured it on in the 4th Q, they tend to be just good enough to win, but that's probably part of the coaching approach. "He's out, you have to do it, and we got you because we know you're up to the job." Then they hit 'em with the strategy for the game, drill 'em, show 'em film, make sure they know their jobs.
Yes, and you could really see it tonight. Their job was to get to the qb. Didn't matter if you sacked him or not. Just go after him like a lion after a steak. Whether you get him before he throws the ball is irrelevent. It's like standing in a cage and having grizzly bears come after you...and you're not sure if the cage will hold every time. After a while you panic every time they come near.
Lions are the only NFL team to go unbeaten in their division, and what’s really impressive is that the Vikings and Packers both went 10-1 in games outside of the division, so by far the NFC North was the toughest division in the NFL this year.
Lions agree to hire Broncos’ John Morton as OC and promote Kelvin Sheppard to DC, AP source says
https://apnews.com/article/lions-coordinators-john-morton-kelvin-sheppard-1532d45ecc5bd3910fa38e5516325b82
Detroit Lions’ Tanner Engstrand joins Aaron Glenn, New York Jets as offensive coordinator
February 1, 2025 / 1:19 PM EST / AP
https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/detroit-lions-tanner-engstrand-jets-offensive-coordinator/
Jets hire former Lions CB coach Dre Bly
ryan love
Mon, Feb 10, 2025, 8:26 PM EST·1 min read
https://sports.yahoo.com/jets-hire-former-lions-cb-012622503.html
Jets $33 Million Star Predicted To Leave New York To Join Lions [Davante Adams]
The Jets have a handful of players heading to free agency...
Patrick McAvoy | 15 Hours Ago
https://www.si.com/nfl/jets/news/jets-33-million-star-predicted-to-leave-new-york-to-join-lions-pat3
These are the 300 players in the upcoming draft, sorted by position and first name. The final number is the ranking taken from the source page, uh, I think it was just the ESPN website.
C Clay Webb Jacksonville State 160 C Drew Kendall Boston College 139 C Eli Cox Kentucky 200 C Grey Zabel North Dakota State 38 C Jacob Bayer Arkansas State 196 C Jake Majors Texas 290 C Jared Wilson Georgia 90 C Jonah Monheim USC 131 C Seth McLaughlin Ohio State 86 CB Azareye'h Thomas Florida State 55 CB Benjamin Morrison Notre Dame 24 CB Bilhal Kone Western Michigan 219 CB Brandon Adams UCF 175 CB Cobee Bryant Kansas 103 CB Darien Porter Iowa State 83 CB Denzel Burke Ohio State 184 CB Dorian Strong Virginia Tech 93 CB Jabbar Muhammad Oregon 283 CB Jacob Parrish Kansas State 101 CB Jahdae Barron Texas 12 CB Jason Marshall Jr. Florida 246 CB Jaylin Smith USC 130 CB Jermari Harris Iowa 294 CB Jordan Hancock Ohio State 252 CB Justin Walley Minnesota 287 CB Mac McWilliams UCF 210 CB Maxwell Hairston Kentucky 74 CB Mello Dotson Kansas 263 CB Nohl Williams California 222 CB O'Donnell Fortune South Carolina 242 CB Quincy Riley Louisville 72 CB Robert Longerbeam Rutgers 284 CB Shavon Revel Jr. East Carolina 45 CB Tommi Hill Nebraska 168 CB Travis Hunter Colorado 2 CB Trey Amos Ole Miss 67 CB Upton Stout Western Kentucky 120 CB Will Johnson Michigan 11 CB Zy Alexander LSU 134 DT Aeneas Peebles Virginia Tech 129 DT Alfred Collins Texas 52 DT Cam Horsley Boston College 215 DT Cam Jackson Florida 186 DT CJ West Indiana 148 DT Darius Alexander Toledo 64 DT Deandre Jules South Carolina 262 DT Deone Walker Kentucky 80 DT Derrick Harmon Oregon 21 DT Elijah Simmons Tennessee 244 DT Howard Cross III Notre Dame 176 DT Jahvaree Ritzie North Carolina 254 DT Jamaree Caldwell Oregon 151 DT Jared Harrison-Hunte SMU 256 DT Jay Toia UCLA 235 DT JJ Pegues Ole Miss 87 DT Jordan Phillips Maryland 106 DT Joshua Farmer Florida State 59 DT Junior Tafuna Utah 161 DT Kenneth Grant Michigan 18 DT Mason Graham Michigan 3 DT Nazir Stackhouse Georgia 214 DT Omarr Norman-Lott Tennessee 46 DT Rylie Mills Notre Dame 155 DT Shemar Turner Texas A&M 75 DT T.J. Sanders South Carolina 30 DT Tim Smith Alabama 180 DT Tommy Akingbesote Maryland 267 DT Tonka Hemingway South Carolina 202 DT Ty Hamilton Ohio State 122 DT Ty Robinson Nebraska 99 DT Tyleik Williams Ohio State 37 DT Vernon Broughton Texas 116 DT Walter Nolen Ole Miss 16 DT Warren Brinson Georgia 299 DT Yahya Black Iowa 238 DT Zeek Biggers Georgia Tech 282 EDGE Abdul Carter Penn State 1 EDGE Ahmed Hassanein Boise State 230 EDGE Antwaun Powell-Ryland Virginia Tech 152 EDGE Ashton Gillotte Louisville 121 EDGE Barryn Sorrell Texas 91 EDGE Bradyn Swinson LSU 42 EDGE David Walker Central Arkansas 145 EDGE Donovan Ezeiruaku Boston College 25 EDGE Elijah Roberts SMU 178 EDGE Fadil Diggs Syracuse 272 EDGE Jack Sawyer Ohio State 95 EDGE Jah Joyner Minnesota 163 EDGE Jalon Walker Georgia 7 EDGE James Pearce Jr. Tennessee 36 EDGE Jared Ivey Ole Miss 113 EDGE Jordan Burch Oregon 63 EDGE Josaiah Stewart Michigan 58 EDGE JT Tuimoloau Ohio State 51 EDGE Kaimon Rucker North Carolina 167 EDGE Kyle Kennard South Carolina 107 EDGE Landon Jackson Arkansas 81 EDGE Mike Green Marshall 28 EDGE Mykel Williams Georgia 6 EDGE Nic Scourton Texas A&M 23 EDGE Oluwafemi Oladejo UCLA 71 EDGE Princely Umanmielen Ole Miss 102 EDGE Que Robinson Alabama 140 EDGE R.J. Oben Notre Dame 250 EDGE Sai'vion Jones LSU 79 EDGE Shemar Stewart Texas A&M 20 EDGE Steve Linton Baylor 269 EDGE Tyler Baron Miami 190 EDGE Tyler Batty BYU 247 EDGE Tyreem Powell Rutgers 279 EDGE Tyrion Ingram-Dawkins Georgia 197 LB Bam Martin-Scott South Carolina 266 LB Barrett Carter Clemson 114 LB Carson Schwesinger UCLA 54 LB Chris Paul Jr. Ole Miss 119 LB Cody Lindenberg Minnesota 187 LB Cody Simon Ohio State 126 LB Danny Stutsman Oklahoma 137 LB Demetrius Knight II South Carolina 157 LB Eugene Asante Auburn 211 LB Francisco Mauigoa Miami 220 LB Jack Kiser Notre Dame 193 LB Jackson Woodard UNLV 295 LB Jalen McLeod Auburn 204 LB Jamon Dumas-Johnson Kentucky 233 LB Jay Higgins Iowa 285 LB Jeffrey Bassa Oregon 173 LB Jihaad Campbell Alabama 27 LB Justin Barron Syracuse 276 LB Kain Medrano UCLA 293 LB Karene Reid Utah 260 LB Keenan Pili Tennessee 291 LB Kobe King Penn State 227 LB Nick Martin Oklahoma State 208 LB Power Echols North Carolina 257 LB Shemar James Florida 150 LB Smael Mondon Jr. Georgia 89 OG Connor Colby Iowa 249 OG Donovan Jackson Ohio State 41 OG Dylan Fairchild Georgia 132 OG Garrett Dellinger LSU 224 OG Hayden Conner Texas 271 OG Jackson Slater Sacramento State 112 OG Jalen Rivers Miami 142 OG Joe Huber Wisconsin 265 OG Jonah Savaiinaea Arizona 53 OG Joshua Gray Oregon State 206 OG Luke Kandra Cincinnati 185 OG Marcus Mbow Purdue 62 OG Miles Frazier LSU 96 OG Mose Vavao Fresno State 275 OG Tate Ratledge Georgia 110 OG Trey Wedig Indiana 297 OG Tyler Booker Alabama 33 OG Willie Lampkin North Carolina 207 OG Wyatt Milum West Virginia 169 OG Xavier Truss Georgia 198 OT Aireontae Ersery Minnesota 61 OT Ajani Cornelius Oregon 138 OT Anthony Belton NC State 97 OT Armand Membou Missouri 14 OT Brandon Crenshaw-Dickson Florida 228 OT Branson Taylor Pittsburgh 251 OT Bryce Cabeldue Kansas 286 OT Caleb Rogers Texas Tech 182 OT Cameron Williams Texas 70 OT Carson Vinson Alabama A&M 128 OT Charles Grant William & Mary 149 OT Chase Lundt UConn 143 OT Emery Jones Jr. LSU 125 OT Hollin Pierce Rutgers 183 OT Jack Nelson Wisconsin 171 OT Jalen Travis Iowa State 165 OT John Williams Cincinnati 195 OT Jordan Williams Georgia Tech 258 OT Josh Conerly Jr. Oregon 22 OT Josh Simmons Ohio State 8 OT Kelvin Banks Jr. Texas 19 OT Logan Brown Kansas 84 OT Myles Hinton Michigan 241 OT Ozzy Trapilo Boston College 77 OT Will Campbell LSU 9 QB Cam Ward Miami 10 QB Dillon Gabriel Oregon 170 QB Jalen Milroe Alabama 66 QB Jaxson Dart Ole Miss 40 QB Kurtis Rourke Indiana 253 QB Kyle McCord Syracuse 237 QB Quinn Ewers Texas 73 QB Seth Henigan Memphis 277 QB Shedeur Sanders Colorado 34 QB Tyler Shough Louisville 49 QB Will Howard Ohio State 78 RB Ashton Jeanty Boise State 5 RB Bhayshul Tuten Virginia Tech 166 RB Brashard Smith SMU 147 RB Cam Skattebo Arizona State 56 RB Corey Kiner Cincinnati 261 RB Damien Martinez Miami 100 RB Devin Neal Kansas 60 RB DJ Giddens Kansas State 156 RB Donovan Edwards Michigan 243 RB Dylan Sampson Tennessee 65 RB Ja'Quinden Jackson Arkansas 239 RB Jarquez Hunter Auburn 216 RB Jaydon Blue Texas 174 RB Jordan James Oregon 108 RB Kaleb Johnson Iowa 39 RB Kalel Mullings Michigan 181 RB Kyle Monangai Rutgers 199 RB LeQuint Allen Syracuse 105 RB Marcus Yarns Delaware 191 RB Montrell Johnson Jr. Florida 270 RB Ollie Gordon II Oklahoma State 194 RB Omarion Hampton North Carolina 26 RB Phil Mafah Clemson 300 RB Quinshon Judkins Ohio State 69 RB Raheim Sanders South Carolina 213 RB RJ Harvey UCF 124 RB Tahj Brooks Texas Tech 201 RB TreVeyon Henderson Ohio State 44 RB Trevor Etienne Georgia 136 RB Ulysses Bentley IV Ole Miss 288 RB Woody Marks USC 153 S Alijah Clark Syracuse 273 S Andrew Mukuba Texas 111 S Billy Bowman Jr. Oklahoma 82 S Caleb Ransaw Tulane 225 S Dan Jackson Georgia 278 S Dante Trader Jr. Maryland 255 S Hunter Wohler Wisconsin 205 S Jaylen Reed Penn State 118 S Jonas Sanker Virginia 127 S Kevin Winston Jr. Penn State 98 S Lathan Ransom Ohio State 154 S Malachi Moore Alabama 218 S Malaki Starks Georgia 31 S Malik Verdon Iowa State 158 S Maxen Hook Toledo 232 S Nick Emmanwori South Carolina 29 S R.J. Mickens Clemson 236 S Rayuan Lane III Navy 296 S Sebastian Castro Iowa 146 S Xavier Watts Notre Dame 43 TE Brant Kuithe Utah 292 TE Bryson Nesbit North Carolina 259 TE CJ Dippre Alabama 245 TE Colston Loveland Michigan 13 TE Elijah Arroyo Miami 48 TE Gavin Bartholomew Pittsburgh 226 TE Gunnar Helm Texas 94 TE Harold Fannin Jr. Bowling Green 117 TE Jackson Hawes Georgia Tech 133 TE Jake Briningstool Clemson 188 TE Jalin Conyers Texas Tech 231 TE Luke Lachey Iowa 192 TE Mason Taylor LSU 35 TE Mitchell Evans Notre Dame 162 TE Oronde Gadsden II Syracuse 221 TE Robbie Ouzts Alabama 274 TE Terrance Ferguson Oregon 85 TE Thomas Fidone II Nebraska 212 TE Tyler Warren Penn State 4 WR Antwane Wells Jr. Ole Miss 234 WR Arian Smith Georgia 144 WR Bru McCoy Tennessee 172 WR Chimere Dike Florida 189 WR Da'Quan Felton Virginia Tech 164 WR Elic Ayomanor Stanford 109 WR Emeka Egbuka Ohio State 50 WR Isaac TeSlaa Arkansas 248 WR Isaiah Bond Texas 123 WR Ja'Corey Brooks Louisville 223 WR Jack Bech TCU 92 WR Jacolby George Miami 268 WR Jalen Royals Utah State 76 WR Jayden Higgins Iowa State 57 WR Jaylin Lane Virginia Tech 179 WR Jaylin Noel Iowa State 68 WR Jimmy Horn Jr. Colorado 280 WR Josh Kelly Texas Tech 298 WR Kaden Prather Maryland 240 WR Kobe Hudson UCF 229 WR Konata Mumpfield Pittsburgh 264 WR Kyle Williams Washington State 159 WR LaJohntay Wester Colorado 289 WR Luther Burden III Missouri 32 WR Matthew Golden Texas 17 WR Nick Nash San José State 217 WR Pat Bryant Illinois 135 WR Ricky White III UNLV 209 WR Sam Brown Jr. Miami 203 WR Savion Williams TCU 104 WR Tai Felton Maryland 177 WR Tetairoa McMillan Arizona 15 WR Tez Johnson Oregon 88 WR Tory Horton Colorado State 115 WR Traeshon Holden Oregon 281 WR Tre Harris Ole Miss 47 WR Xavier Restrepo Miami 141
NFL Starting Quarterbacks in 2025 | AFC
Baltimore Ravens Lamar Jackson
Buffalo Bills Josh Allen
Cincinnati Bengals Joe Burrow
Cleveland Browns Deshaun Watson
Denver Broncos Bo Nix
Houston Texans C.J. Stroud
Indianapolis Colts Anthony Richardson
Jacksonville Jaguars Trevor Lawrence
Kansas City Chiefs Patrick Mahomes
Las Vegas Raiders Geno Smith
Los Angeles Chargers Justin Herbert
Miami Dolphins Tua Tagovailoa
New England Patriots Drake Maye
New York Jets Justin Fields
Pittsburgh Steelers n/a
Tennessee Titans Will Levis
NFL Starting Quarterbacks in 2025 | NFC
Atlanta Falcons Michael Penix Jr.
Arizona Cardinals Kyler Murray
Carolina Panthers Bryce Young
Chicago Bears Caleb Williams
Dallas Cowboys Dak Prescott
Detroit Lions Jared Goff
Green Bay Packers Jordan Love
Los Angeles Rams Matthew Stafford
Minnesota Vikings n/a
New Orleans Saints Derek Carr
New York Giants Drew Lock
Philadelphia Eagles Jalen Hurts
San Francisco 49ers Brock Purdy
Seattle Seahawks Sam Darnold
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Baker Mayfield
Washington Commanders Jayden Daniels
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For no reason at all, I've made a list of predictions for NFL division winners in 2025, and picked the six wildcard teams. It's 41 more days until the NFL draft, free agency fires up officially this coming week. It's ridiculous to make such predictions this early, the truth is, probably ridiculous to make them at all. And that's not just because fans of teams tend to 'go postal' in the figurative sense.
There's a rumor that the Giants are going to trade up to number one with the Titans, leaping over the Browns, probably to pluck QB Cam Ward. My guess about what that means is A) if that happens, Aaron Rodgers won't be going to the Giants, and at this point, given his experience with the Packers will prefer the Vikings because of years in that division; or B) the rumor is out there to get Rodgers to make that very move (IOW, it's a smokescreen).
I've been listening to YouTube clips (mostly Rich Eisen Show) and Tom Pelissero's musing is that the best idea for them, and for the Falcons, and for Kirk Cousins (who's ex- of Vikings) is for Atlanta to pay part of Cousins' remaining guaranteed money, with a current or future pick or two, to send him off the Cleveland. Sounds compelling, and sounds like something Cleveland won't do. Cleveland hasn't made many smart moves in many years. They blew the negotiations with Myles Garrett, probably because of unrealistic expectations for their 2025 season.
Kenny Pickett went from Pittsburgh (2022-2024) to the Eagles (2024-2025) to Cleveland, but the Browns have had in-person meetings with Russell Wilson.
Justin Fields (ex-Bears, now ex-Steelers) got plucked by the Jets.
There are two teams that show as having no QBs, Pittsburgh Steelers and Minnesota Vikings. I think the Steelers would be Rodgers' best move, because he would be the starter there. They have coaching stability there. Justin Fields is gone, Russell Wilson's leaving and his options probably are the Giants, the Browns, maybe the Vikings, maybe the Titans. What a mess.
Geno Smith went from the Seahawks to the Raiders, to be coached again by Pete Carroll.
The Vikings lost D'Arnold to the Seahawks.
Dan Jones went from the Giants (2022-2023) to the Vikings (2023-2024) and will be starting for the Colts this year.
Granted I don't spend a lot of time with the NFL or sports in general, but some of the current starting QBs in this list I'm looking at don't sound familiar, a bit, so, probably see some changes.
The success rate of draft picks is pretty poor (about 20% work out well). By position, centers have by far the best rate of success, with an average draft rate of a nudge more than one drafted per year.
Okay, I've spent more than enough time on this.
(my current predictions)
NFL winners of divisions, 2025
AFC North: Baltimore Ravens
AFC South: Jacksonville Jaguars
AFC East: Buffalo Bills
AFC West: Kansas City Chiefs
AFC Wildcards: Houston Texans, Las Vegas Raiders, Pittsburgh Steelers
NFC North: Detroit Lions
NFC South: Tampa Bay Buccaneers
NFC East: Philadelphia Eagles
NFC West: Los Angeles Rams
NFC Wildcards: Chicago Bears, Dallas Cowboys, Washington Commanders
Two peas, one pod. Add some OL, OT, OG, LB.
QB Shedeur Sanders Colorado 34 CB Travis Hunter Colorado 2
Former Raiders GM Mike Mayock and Rich Eisen discuss the New Orleans Saints' NFL Draft options in the wake of news that QB Derek Carr could miss the 2025 season with a shoulder injury, break down how picks 10 through 20 in the draft could play out, and more.Mike Mayock Talks NFL Mock Draft,
Saints, Shedeur & More with Rich Eisen | Full Interview | 20:32
The Rich Eisen Show | 920K subscribers | 27,718 views | April 15, 2025
--> YouTube-Generated Transcript <-- 0:00 · it's been a fun draft season so far with 0:02 · my buddy Mike Mayok who's back here on 0:03 · the Rich Eisen Show nine days before we 0:07 · start to get some answers in Green Bay 0:08 · Wisconsin good to see you Mike how are 0:10 · you sir hey man i'm happy to be here 0:12 · thank you oh this has been so much fun 0:14 · um so first order of business is the 0:16 · last time we we spoke together you were 0:19 · going through the top uh 10 picks of uh 0:23 · of this year's uh draft you know and we 0:26 · don't call it a mock draft with you Mike 0:28 · here's what we Here's what we're call 0:29 · Hold on a minute put it up on the screen 0:31 · we're calling it the Mike Mayok draft 0:33 · that's what it is it's that's what it is 0:35 · it's the Mike Mayok draft and um you had 0:39 · Jihad Campbell going to the Saints at 9 0:41 · the Derek Carr news that it it appears 0:46 · he might not be able to play in 0:49 · 2025 does that affect anything you think 0:52 · in the Saints draft room strategy-wise 0:55 · here Mike i I think the only people that 0:58 · really know that are in that building 0:59 · and when they acquired Durk keep in mind 1:02 · that he had an AC joint uh problem in 1:06 · his shoulder in 23 the Saints are very 1:09 · aware about it were very aware about it 1:11 · um I don't think it's a surprise i think 1:15 · what intrigues me about it is that it 1:17 · just came out so publicly right now 1:19 · before the draft so I don't know if um I 1:23 · don't know a the severity of it i don't 1:26 · know b um how content or not content 1:29 · Durk is in New Orleans um I do know that 1:35 · New Orleans restruct restructured his 1:37 · entire contract to more cap room which 1:39 · means they've effectively married him 1:42 · because they already paid out the entire 1:43 · contract for this year uh al except for 1:46 · you know the the veteran minimum of 1.2 1:49 · million so I think there's a lot more 1:52 · behind the scenes than we're aware of 1:53 · right now and um I'm not sure it affects 1:57 · their their pick at number nine i don't 2:00 · think Mickey Lumis is a panic guy and 2:03 · right now I've got uh in my mind it's 2:05 · the top defensive player um they might 2:08 · go with a corner there uh they could go 2:10 · with a defensive tackle but I've got 2:12 · them going with the best player left on 2:13 · my board at that point on the defensive 2:15 · side which is Jihad Campbell so you 2:18 · think that um with with the knowledge 2:21 · already uh about Carr's shoulder baked 2:26 · in it's more of a you know and and again 2:30 · I'm I'm reading into what you're saying 2:31 · you can obviously tell me um it it's 2:34 · more of a Spencer Rattler versus Shador 2:37 · Sanders question than Derek 2:39 · Carr question you think Mike i I think 2:43 · at this point there are a couple things 2:45 · Rich one is what is the veteran 2:46 · quarterback market and it's decimated 2:50 · you know Cleveland signed Flaco this 2:51 · past week you know you're looking at 2:53 · what Carson Wentz or Ryan Tanahill at 2:56 · this point um the Kirk Cousins thing as 3:00 · a division rival doubtful highly right 3:03 · um and it's not just any division rival 3:05 · too man 3:07 · like a warm place would have to freeze 3:09 · over before Atlanta and New Orleans did 3:11 · anything right you know to help each 3:13 · other out yeah so I kind of go okay um 3:18 · at that point if they were already gonna 3:21 · take a quarterback at nine if he was 3:24 · available I don't think this changes it 3:27 · and if they weren't going to take a 3:29 · quarterback at nine I'm not sure this 3:32 · changes it either um because then 3:35 · they're reaching for a quarterback they 3:37 · didn't think highly enough of prior to 3:38 · that so um I kind of look at it and say 3:43 · you know I think those second and third 3:45 · day quarterbacks are in play for a lot 3:47 · of people mike Mayok here on the Rich 3:50 · Eisen Show okay so the Bears sitting at 3:52 · 10 on the board that you currently have 3:55 · set up what do you think they're going 3:56 · to do here Mike we talked briefly last 3:59 · week about it Rich and and I'm not 4:01 · changing uh my thought process i love 4:04 · Tyler Warren there um you know I I'm a 4:07 · Cole KT fan but I love both of them in 4:11 · the game at the same time i love a 4:14 · quarterback right now he's got DeAndre 4:16 · Swift in the back field uh he's loaded 4:19 · at wide out they just upgraded the 4:22 · interior offensive line and you've got 4:24 · to continue to help this kid play at a 4:26 · higher level and I think a guy with the 4:29 · unique skill set of Tyler Warren from 4:32 · Penn State does that he can line him up 4:34 · everywhere he's built more like a 4:36 · Gronowski than a smaller quicker tight 4:38 · end uh he he's not afraid to block you 4:42 · can move him like a Swiss Army knife all 4:44 · over fullback Y um wing 4:48 · back you know he was a shotgun guy at 4:51 · Penn State i'm not sure he's going to be 4:52 · in the shotgun at there but at the end 4:55 · of the day I love the fit okay now the 4:58 · 49ers are sitting there at 11 yep what 5:00 · do you think they are going to do here 5:03 · Mike you know this is a season of 5:06 · transition for them they've let go a lot 5:08 · of highric veterans um they in free 5:11 · agency they signed a lot of kind of 5:14 · rotational backups not starters so this 5:17 · draft with a they've got 11 picks in 5:19 · this draft two in the third two in the 5:22 · fourth this is a kind of a huge draft in 5:26 · their franchise right now they've got to 5:28 · take advantage of it i think they look 5:30 · at this and they go "Okay um what do we 5:33 · need here dline O line for sure but no 5:37 · corners are off the board." And I think 5:39 · you can look at Will Johnson and I think 5:40 · you can look at Jade Baron and I think 5:43 · Baron with the versatility of playing 5:45 · outside or nickel and being a little 5:48 · cleaner he's run his 40 he's done all 5:51 · the things that Will Johnson have hasn't 5:53 · coming off injury i like Jade Baron at 5:57 · that point to San Francisco so you think 5:59 · that would be the choice there um and 6:02 · the fact that Baron has done all of it 6:04 · and he's given a clearer picture is what 6:07 · wins the day there all right now the 6:10 · Cowboys are on the clock mike Mayok what 6:13 · happens with the Dallas Cowboys here 12 6:17 · oh boy dallas has uh 10 picks nobody in 6:20 · the fourth um obviously I think they 6:24 · have four needs corner defensive tackle 6:26 · running back wide out um I think they 6:30 · could trade down but the ability to sit 6:32 · here and stick and pick and augment what 6:36 · they have already with CD Lamb I'm going 6:39 · with Matthew Golden you like that you go 6:42 · and why Golden over say Omarian Hampton 6:45 · here what do you think there 6:48 · uh I think Golden I I love Omar and 6:51 · Hampton and I think the running back 6:53 · class is so deep you can come back 6:56 · around in the second or third round and 6:58 · get a running back that you love so I'm 7:01 · not worried about them finding a running 7:04 · back even though Hampton's a 7:05 · consideration for me if Genty was here I 7:08 · might be more tempted but the ability to 7:10 · sit here and take the first wide 7:12 · receiver in the draft and put every team 7:15 · in the league especially the those NFC 7:18 · East rivals on notice that now we got 7:20 · two guys that can fly we got two guys 7:23 · that can run routes we you know this 7:25 · this kid ran 429 he's quick he catches 7:29 · everything he's an advanced route runner 7:31 · you line him up with CD Lamb um I think 7:34 · there's a different look next year with 7:37 · those two lining up wide okay so now the 7:40 · Miami Dolphins are on the clock at 13th 7:43 · overall and I'm wondering if this might 7:47 · um also include the news today the 7:51 · wrinkle that the Dolphins and Jaylen 7:54 · Ramsay appear to be on the outs and 7:57 · willing to separate and give Ramsay an 8:00 · opportunity to find a different place of 8:02 · employment would this be now the 8:04 · Michigan corner Will Johnson if that 8:06 · does happen or or no mike I I think Will 8:10 · Johnson is is uh in play regardless um 8:15 · obviously if if the plan is to move on 8:18 · and in that building if if something 8:20 · happens and they're able to move on and 8:21 · and generate draft picks um it'd be 8:24 · interesting to see what the picks are 8:26 · they get for a 31 year old guy he's 8:29 · guaranteed I forget 25 26 million I 8:32 · think this year 8:35 · um I I I they would still need I mean to 8:39 · be really honest um I I kind of went I I 8:44 · I thought thought that through i almost 8:46 · gave him Will Johnson i said you know 8:48 · what the most important thing for this 8:50 · team is keeping Tua upright and they 8:55 · lost Laramie Tonsel to retirement and by 8:57 · the way Tua was a better quarterback 8:59 · when Tonsel was on the field so they 9:02 · lose Tonsel um I don't like their 9:04 · offensive line i haven't for the last 9:06 · few years they've invested some draft 9:09 · capital but it hasn't worked out the way 9:11 · they had hoped i'm looking at and and 9:14 · this is probably higher than most people 9:16 · because I love this kid but I'm looking 9:18 · at um Grace Ael North Dakota State who 9:22 · can play all five positions uh they can 9:24 · line him up at tackle uh they can kick 9:26 · him inside the guard or center i think 9:29 · this kid is smart i think he's intensely 9:32 · tough and they need some of that on that 9:34 · offensive line uh they need to kickstart 9:37 · that that run game last year that really 9:40 · struggled but most importantly they got 9:43 · to keep Tua up and people off of him i'm 9:46 · going Zable yeah i mean uh I think you 9:48 · were referring to Terron Armstead uh the 9:50 · the lineman no no all good no um all 9:53 · good so Zable going to the Dolphins that 9:58 · would be fascinating so then now you got 10:00 · the Colts at 14 and I know a lot of 10:03 · folks have been basically Sharpieing 10:04 · Colston Loveland in there would you be 10:06 · the same you put him there too yeah I 10:08 · think they were probably disappointed 10:10 · that um Tyler Warren went at 10 to 10:13 · Chicago i I've got a grade on Lovelin 10:16 · that's only slightly below 10:19 · um and I think some people are saying 10:21 · "What about interior offensive line we 10:23 · lost Will Freeze we lost Ryan Kelly both 10:26 · to Minnesota um but at this point um the 10:30 · quarterback situation is unsettled you 10:32 · need a weapon and that is your your 10:34 · Michigan guy colston Lovelin at 14 um 10:38 · really good hands big long guy can get 10:41 · down the field run verticals very 10:43 · effective at all three levels can beat 10:45 · man coverage understands and and knows 10:48 · how where to fit in versus zone and 10:52 · while he's not a people mover he's 10:54 · effective enough as a blocker that you 10:56 · can line him up in a lot of different 10:58 · positions you don't want to just sit him 10:59 · in a Y and tell them to block down on 11:02 · 300 pounders but he can be an effective 11:04 · and efficient blocker the Atlanta 11:06 · Falcons sitting there at 15 do what do 11:08 · you think Mike i think they they need an 11:10 · edge you know and and by the way I 11:12 · thought about it what year is it Mike 11:14 · yeah you know I mean that sounds like 11:18 · we've heard that story before for the 11:20 · Falcons yeah i mean I I was tempted to 11:23 · give him Will Johnson um to line up 11:26 · across from Terrell uh but at the end of 11:30 · the day Mike Mike Green from Marshall 11:33 · has a similar grade and they have a 11:35 · higher need there so Mike Green for me 11:39 · quick twitchy tough kid um I'm going to 11:43 · give them to Atlanta and they've they've 11:44 · needed that for a long time now so Will 11:47 · Johnson still sitting there now halfway 11:49 · through the first round is is that 11:51 · Arizona's gain or or you think we still 11:53 · we still keep him on the board here Mike 11:56 · i really like the pick I gave Arizona 11:58 · and his name is not Will Johnson um I 12:01 · gave him Kelvin Banks from Texas and to 12:04 · me uh I love the fact that he could 12:08 · probably he can kick inside and play 12:10 · guard year one and then don't forget 12:13 · that uh they've got a tackle out there 12:16 · jonah Williams who is getting old and 12:19 · he's last year of his contract kelvin 12:21 · Banks can start inside kick outside to 12:23 · right tackle which I think he can play 12:25 · either position at a high level and uh I 12:28 · think he he gives them what they need uh 12:31 · in that offensive line and for Kyler 12:33 · Murray okay Cincinnati sitting at 17 as 12:35 · we work through the middle of this draft 12:38 · nine days before it with Mike Mayok here 12:40 · on the Rich Eisen Show what do the what 12:42 · do the Bengals do at 17 uh regardless of 12:46 · Trey Hendrickson whether they sign him 12:49 · prior to the draft or not um I'm going 12:51 · James Pierce from the University of 12:53 · Tennessee um he'd fit in great with a 12:57 · rotation with Hendrickson uh he his 13:00 · upside is outstanding he's long he's one 13:03 · of the twitchiest players in this draft 13:05 · he can push a pocket he's stronger than 13:07 · people think even though he will develop 13:09 · more power at the point of attack um I 13:12 · think he's a guy there's been some 13:13 · rumors off the field stuff but I think 13:16 · he's a guy to come in and perform at a 13:18 · high level year one for Cincinnati all 13:20 · right now Seattle's sitting at 18 yeah 13:23 · what are you 10 picks five of the first 13:26 · 92 they could be an active team in this 13:29 · draft they could be another team that 13:31 · could sit there at the end of one and 13:33 · come back up into it if there was 13:35 · somebody of interest they've got two 13:37 · twos and two threes and obviously 13:40 · they're they're in a they're they're 13:42 · ready to go they they trade they've got 13:44 · Sam Darnold they moved a couple primary 13:46 · people Gino Smith and and a highlevel 13:49 · wide out to get the extra two and three 13:51 · um so they're going to have a lot to say 13:53 · about the first two days in this draft 13:55 · or but if they stick and pick I I really 13:58 · like this pick also it's Tyler Booker 14:00 · the guard from Alabama um they got two 14:04 · highlevel running backs and they weren't 14:06 · able to run the football last year this 14:08 · is the quintessential people mover big 14:11 · butt big legs drive blocker good pass 14:15 · protector um I I think he fits 14:18 · everything they need and if Booker's 14:21 · sitting there at 18 they take him all 14:23 · right so two more to go here in your 10 14:25 · through 20 of the Mike May O draft here 14:29 · uh on the Rich Eisen Show the Tampa Bay 14:31 · Buccaneers at 19 do what yeah I mean 14:34 · Jamal Dean at corner can't stay healthy 14:37 · good corner but he's he's hurt a lot and 14:39 · they can't believe that Will Johnson 14:41 · fell into their lap i bet at number 19 14:44 · Tampa Bay takes another Michigan guy 14:48 · Will Johnson at corner so why do you 14:50 · think he drops to 19 again because again 14:52 · I mean when he was you know healthy and 14:55 · crushing it for team 144 and winning it 14:58 · all i mean we were talking about him as 14:59 · a top five potentially you know I I've 15:03 · got there there are two things and I 15:04 · keep hearing it around the league and 15:06 · you know one is um there's a little bit 15:09 · of a lack of speed and that's okay okay 15:12 · i mean he doesn't have to run 15:14 · 439 but the fact that he didn't run a 40 15:20 · um bothers some teams um I had him as 15:24 · kind of a 455 guy on tape i think most 15:27 · teams will be in that range plus or 15:29 · minus 455 um so he doesn't have elite 15:34 · speed and I thought this year as a 15:37 · tackler it was a below level performance 15:40 · and his physicality worries me lack of 15:44 · physicality I should say um and even 15:46 · though he was healthy his first two 15:48 · years this year he had three different 15:49 · injuries i mean it started with a 15:51 · shoulder missed time then it was the 15:53 · turf toe missed a lot of time and 15:55 · finally it was the hamstring and he 15:57 · didn't you know he didn't work out at 15:59 · the combine he came back and had a 16:01 · separate workout later and did a lot of 16:02 · drills but no 40 so um I think there are 16:06 · some teams that have some questions 16:08 · mainly around the lack of physicality 16:10 · and the overall uh overall speed all 16:14 · right and then lastly for us today 16:16 · Denver at 20 what a what a fascinating 16:19 · pick this is going to be for a team that 16:21 · made the playoffs and Shawn Payeyton's 16:23 · got his quarterback and I'm just 16:25 · wondering with all the potential extra 16:27 · weapons now on the board for Knicks they 16:29 · go ahead and get get the the Joker we 16:32 · keep on always hearing that for him uh 16:34 · for Shawn Peyton he likes the the 16:36 · matchup problem nicknamed Joker type 16:38 · player does that player get selected 16:40 · here or or no mike what do you think 16:42 · well I'm not sure which Joker you have 16:44 · here um but I agree with your premise 16:47 · that you you do everything you can to 16:50 · buttress the young quarterback um and in 16:53 · this case I thought long and hard about 16:55 · Omar and Hampton um but at the end of 16:58 · the day same thing um felt like they 17:02 · signed some guys in free agency during 17:04 · the offseason and feel like they can get 17:06 · a quality young running back in the 17:08 · second round at number 51 uh they might 17:11 · get one of those Ohio State kids both of 17:13 · whom I really like so um I've got him 17:16 · with wide receiver number two T McMillan 17:19 · and uh who knows what's going to happen 17:22 · with some of the contracts with their 17:24 · current wide outs uh I think Sutton's 17:27 · runs out the end of this year or next 17:29 · year uh this is a big body guy plucks 17:32 · the ball with ease all over big radius 17:35 · uh love love his ability to separate 17:37 · with length and physicality um I think 17:40 · he fits in with what they do and how 17:42 · they do it and it gives another weapon 17:44 · as you said to Bo Nicks the young 17:46 · quarterback i I think that would be um a 17:50 · cartwheel type moment for a lot of 17:51 · Denver Bronco fans um I couldn't help 17:54 · but notice again now that we're through 17:55 · 20 picks of your Mike May Odraft 17:59 · um that uh uh still no Shadore um and 18:03 · again not not to not to not to peek at 18:06 · maybe what uh next week's final 12 picks 18:09 · here or 13 picks would would the 18:11 · Steelers go for him 21st overall if that 18:13 · happens two Thursdays from now first of 18:15 · all first of all we're not going to peek 18:17 · ahead to number 21 18:20 · okay that that that's a typical Rich 18:22 · Eisen 18:25 · lowkey okay just Hey just give me one 18:27 · hey Mike just while we're talking about 18:28 · it and I knew coming in that the first 18:31 · question would be about Shadore i just 18:33 · didn't know you try I just didn't know 18:35 · you were going to try to sneak 18:36 · Pittsburgh in on me yeah you know yeah 18:37 · just you know but yeah I you know what I 18:40 · thought of I I had a couple different 18:42 · scenarios as I worked through this mock 18:45 · um where I had I tried to to get some 18:48 · teams to move up to 19 or 20 ahead of 18:50 · Pittsburgh right and make a move and and 18:53 · ultimately like I had the Giants and bas 18:55 · I went as far as having the Giants move 18:57 · from 34 to 20 for a third round pick and 19:00 · a swap of five and six round pick so I 19:02 · mean I looked into it i thought through 19:04 · the process and at the end of the day 19:09 · um who needs a quarterback you know the 19:12 · Giants Cleveland uh maybe New Orleans at 19:16 · that point um Pittsburgh who knows 19:20 · um I just don't think with one 19:24 · quarterback gone at this point in this 19:26 · mock draft there is any immediate 19:29 · urgency to go up and get the second one 19:31 · especially think since I think a lot of 19:34 · teams around the league have similar 19:35 · grades for Jackson Dart and Shador 19:38 · Sanders 19:39 · how what what was the um the the freight 19:42 · for moving up from 34 to 20 what would 19:45 · that freight be that you mentioned i had 19:47 · uh the Giants third round pick which was 19:49 · 65 19:51 · and a 56 swap in other words Denver um 19:55 · listen would get I I yeah I know third 19:58 · round pick is is is a is a good one but 20:01 · that doesn't sound terribly expensive to 20:02 · me even if Cleveland's interested in 20:04 · doing something like that from 33 to 20 20:06 · you know what I mean like that Yeah you 20:09 · just got to find a partner willing to 20:11 · pop out of the first round and go to the 20:13 · top of round two um which is a tall 20:16 · order in in and of itself uh Mike we'll 20:19 · chat next week thanks for the time 20:20 · brother you're the best appreciate it 20:22 · Rich thank you the one and only Mike 20:23 · Mayok right here on the Rich Eisen Show
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