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1 posted on 12/05/2006 11:45:31 PM PST by freedomdefender
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"Sympathy for the Devil"


2 posted on 12/05/2006 11:48:36 PM PST by marron
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[---SACRIFICE [Professors say Gibson's Apocalypto is biased againsMayan bloodletting] ----]

LoL... liberals have no shame... (Eddie Murphy laugh)...

3 posted on 12/05/2006 11:51:23 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole)
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Hilarious.

Could you imagine what this same guy would be saying if ONE Christian Church in the south, say, advocated making a small cut in the palm of your hand to, say, feel sympathy for what Jesus went through when he was nailed to a cross?

He'd hit the roof, demand that their children be taken away from all parents who attended the church, etc.


5 posted on 12/05/2006 11:53:37 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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"Hansen hopes viewers will see the movie, as he does, as a contemporary allegory on the squandering of natural resources and the abuse of power, but he says that "the movie is designed for people who don't have the intellect to grasp the deeper concepts."

Ummm..., Er....,
They captured people from other tribes,
Confined them or use them as labor in their 'public works',
Hauled them up those 'works' in large groups;
AND CUT OUT THEIR HEARTS!

From this I'm supposed to learn how to share?

6 posted on 12/05/2006 11:53:49 PM PST by norton
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"Yes, the Maya sacrificed humans to the gods, but these rituals were part of a complex worldview: the Maya believed that their bodies, their blood, were created by the gods and that they occasionally needed to repay this debt with human life."

Alright then. That makes it ok.

7 posted on 12/05/2006 11:54:26 PM PST by freedomdefender
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I think I'm beginning to get a picture of what makes Gibson tick.


8 posted on 12/06/2006 12:04:28 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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I'm sure the Mayans are deeply offended.


9 posted on 12/06/2006 12:07:25 AM PST by pcottraux (It's pronounced "P. Coe-troe.")
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"Based on the trailer" is all I need to know. He hasn't seen the film so his opinion of how Mel treats the Mayan culture's about as worthless as they come.


11 posted on 12/06/2006 12:15:21 AM PST by newzjunkey (Prepare. President Rodham, 01-20-09.)
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Thanks to David Carrasco, professor of religious history at Harvard for the following Logic sequence...try it, you'll be amazed!

...Yes, the Maya sacrificed humans to the gods, but these rituals were part of a complex worldview: the Maya believed...

Lets see...'but these rituals were part of a complex worldview: the KKK believed...'

Lets see...'but these rituals were part of a complex worldview: the Islamic Suicide Bombers believed...'

Lets see...'but these rituals were part of a complex worldview: the Nazis believed...'

Lets see...'but these rituals were part of a complex worldview: the Kymer Rouge and Pol Pot believed...'

Lets see...'but these rituals were part of a complex worldview: the males who threw female virgins into volcanos believed...'

Lets see...'but these rituals were part of a complex worldview: the U.S. Calvary who killed the Indians at Wounded Knee believed...'

Lets see...'but these rituals were part of a complex worldview: the American slave owners believed...'

Hmmm...this Logic Flow can take us anywhere. Thanks David Carrasco, professor of religious history at Harvard!

13 posted on 12/06/2006 12:30:30 AM PST by Van Jenerette (U.S.Army 1967-1991 Infantry OCS, Hall of Fame, Ft. Benning Ga.)
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"The gods need you," explains David Carrasco, professor of religious history at Harvard. "They depend on human life for their own existence, there's this kind of reciprocity.

Sounds suspiciously like the Clintons.

14 posted on 12/06/2006 12:48:50 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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"sympathy for the devil" ping...

er, ping, for sympathy...

I want to know everything 'bout these people because I'm working on a CivIII epic. So there.

Anything that you guys come up with I'd like to know 'bout.


15 posted on 12/06/2006 12:53:43 AM PST by raygun (Whenever I see U.N. blue helmets I feel like laughing and puking at the same time.)
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"In sacrifice, he adds, the people are becoming like gods."

Did Mayans get 69 virgins too?

yitbos

20 posted on 12/06/2006 1:27:51 AM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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After Disney came out with the "press kit" for this waste of money comparing the civilization of the Mayans with the current US society....I won't be giving any of my money for their other DVD's.
21 posted on 12/06/2006 1:30:33 AM PST by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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"The gods need you," explains David Carrasco, professor of religious history at Harvard. "They depend on human life for their own existence, there's this kind of reciprocity." In sacrifice, he adds, the people are becoming like gods.

It's interesting that the gods always need someone else's blood.

22 posted on 12/06/2006 1:32:35 AM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got Seven? [NRA Life Member])
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Robert Hansen, the Idaho State University anthropologist who worked with Gibson for two years to ensure "Apocalypto" 's authenticity,..."the movie is designed for people who don't have the intellect to grasp the deeper concepts."...With Gibson's generous seven-figure donation to his dig in northern Guatemala...

Talking about whoring yourself... This guy felt that what Gibson did (making the movie) was wrong, shallow, and misinforming the audience. Yet, he deliberately took part of the enterprise because he wanted the money.

23 posted on 12/06/2006 1:44:15 AM PST by paudio (WoT is more important than War on Gay Marriage!)
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THe Aztecs were much bigger as far as human sacrifice. It was a way of life for the Aztecs. Mayans did much less and also did child sacrifice (the young virgins)


24 posted on 12/06/2006 1:44:55 AM PST by dennisw
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"The gods need you," explains David Carrasco, professor of religious history at Harvard. "They depend on human life for their own existence, there's this kind of reciprocity."

Present tense. Rather disturbing. I've known a few people along life's way who've been fascinated with Mayan civilization, and with their bloodletting in particular. Scarey people all.

I'm beginning to wonder if Gibson has the same fascination, and if "The Christ" was more a product of obsession with human sacrifice than of any religious motivation.

26 posted on 12/06/2006 2:19:39 AM PST by browardchad
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Yes, the Maya sacrificed humans to the gods, but these rituals were part of a complex worldview: the Maya believed that their bodies, their blood, were created by the gods and that they occasionally needed to repay this debt with human life.

Ah, so that makes it okay. Silly me.

So, I suppose if they put panties on their heads, that would be okay, too.

31 posted on 12/06/2006 3:06:17 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (Benedict XVI = Terminator IV)
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"but these rituals were part of a complex worldview:"

There is no behavior, no evil that cannot be explained by this justifying sentence.

Newsweak is not fir for toilet paper.

34 posted on 12/06/2006 3:48:03 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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I won't watch this movie, nor will I ever watch another new flick by Mel. His never ending mea culpa's after his DUI arrest were laced with Iraq War bashing purely to ingratiate himself with the liberal elites on the left coast. Mel, you've shown your true self to me, and you'll never see another nickle of my money.


35 posted on 12/06/2006 3:54:05 AM PST by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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