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Cats at risk of Alzheimer's
Scotsman.com ^ | Tue 5 Dec 2006

Posted on 12/05/2006 10:20:22 PM PST by null and void

CATS can suffer from a feline form of Alzheimer's disease, Edinburgh scientists revealed today.

A study into ageing cats identified a key protein which can build up in the nerve cells in their brains and cause mental deterioration, similar to that in humans.

The research was carried out by scientists at the University of Edinburgh, as well as universities at St Andrews, Bristol and California.

Dr Danielle Gunn-Moore, of Edinburgh University, said: "We've known for a long time that cats develop dementia, but this study tells us that the cat's neural system is being compromised."


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To: dsc
"A $50,000 prosthesis for a dog that lost a leg: clearly immoral. "

Why? It may be foolish, it may be on the short end of a cost benefit analysis, but I don't see why it is immoral on its face.
121 posted on 12/07/2006 12:27:48 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: dsc; the OlLine Rebel
Wrongly applied. Logic is like a hammer: you can use it to drive a nail, or to smash your thumb.

I don't see how OlLine Rebel's point is wrongly applied.

Anytime someone suggests, "All the money we spend on X, where X is any luxury you may name, should, morally, be spent on the sick/children/elderly/minorities" automatically implies a reduction to absurdity. At least to me.

You said in post #10 that, "If there are children in the world not receiving medical care, how can one justify spending huge sums on animals?"

I believe later you went on to (rightfully) clarify that if one donates to charity in some form or another, then that's a separate issue. So, are you now saying that there could be a justification for spending huge sums on animals, as long as charity comes first?

If not, then how can you justify owning a computer, which probably cost a "huge sum", when "there are children in the world not receiving medical care"?

122 posted on 12/07/2006 12:33:51 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: dsc
If there are children in the world not receiving medical care,

Somehow I dont think the children in impoverished countries are receiving less medical care because somebody's dog is getting more attention....

123 posted on 12/07/2006 12:39:30 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I taped a broom handle to my cat and turned her into a dust mop)
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To: FourtySeven

And personally, I think spending money on a living, breathing animal for its sake is more "moral" than spending money on an huge inorganic entertainment system for myself.

Yet apparently, the latter is acceptable whereas the former is not, if I understand dsc's (or whomever it was) post.


124 posted on 12/07/2006 12:45:25 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: null and void
How can they tell?

They climb into the litter box and ... do nothing.

125 posted on 12/07/2006 12:49:27 PM PST by aculeus
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To: the OlLine Rebel
I think spending money on a living, breathing animal for its sake

The key words were are for ITS sake ... too often an animal has great amounts spent which are a salve to the emitions of or due to the selfishness of the owners, and not for the animal itself's sake.
126 posted on 12/07/2006 12:54:32 PM PST by AKA Elena (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to you!)
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To: AKA Elena

So me spending hundreds every month on my allergic dog - who is still often "suffering" to an extent - is bad?

Personally, I don't quite buy that putting down a pet is always less selfish than spending effort and $$$ to keep it alive.

But that's just my view. I can also see the other. I just don't see any of it in absolutes. I don't really judge people harshly no matter what they do, anyway, even if I do now prefer the "effort" instead of the "euthanasia".


127 posted on 12/07/2006 12:59:05 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
You imply that your expenditure is worth it. I surely agree if the dog does not suffer... that is my point. If you can alleviate the suffering, fine, but some people keep their dogs or cats alive far beyond the stage when quality of life is ensured.

My vet has said, in no uncertain terms, that they are being taught to keep animals alive far beyond a modicum of comfort or hope.

I am not callous, believe me, but I do recognize when the time is right for me to "take ULTIMATE care of God's creatures".

We have held them, each and every one, and shed tears as they breathe their last.

Two years ago, we lost a beloved female to a rampant organ "eating" cancer. My vet was out of town, so his associates handled her case. I knew from the first test we had no chance (years of caring and caring have not been spent in a stupor) ... but she belonged to my oldest granddaughter. My daughter spent thousands in four days, before I took the dog 250 miles to one of my first veterinarian's to be euthanized. She barely made it there, but I wanted the assurance that she be handled gently by both of us and in the final analysis that she be necropsied properly ... for the sake of the children and grandchildren (human and canine)she has and has effected.

I did not interfere before this final stage for the sake of the child (young adult) and so that I could be reinforced in what my heart told me was the ultimate result.

During the long and tearful trip ... the tough, beautiful Champion of my granddaughter's ... gave me more sweet kisses than she had in her entire life.
128 posted on 12/07/2006 1:38:21 PM PST by AKA Elena (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to you!)
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To: null and void

Just look at their Liberal owners. It must be contagious.


129 posted on 12/07/2006 1:43:36 PM PST by Doc91678 (Doc91678)
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To: Doc91678
Oddly enough, there is some evidence that toxoplasmosis can spread from cats to humans, some of which get brain infections from it.

Perhaps there is a reason for the crazy old cat lady stereotype?

130 posted on 12/07/2006 2:45:16 PM PST by null and void (To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funnybone. --Reba McEntire)
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To: RobRoy

“On that point I disagree strongly. It is one of the most basic tenets of Christianity (for me).”

Sorry, but you can’t have “tenets (for you).” The tenets of Christianity are what they are, and that simply isn’t one of them. You can either accept tenets and agree with Christianity, or reject tenets and disagree with Christianity, but you can’t morph anything into a Christian tenet.

“I will never consider it to be a legitimate argument.”

It is not a legitimate argument in favor of forcing people to wear helmets, or abolishing dangerous activities, or requiring the use of seatbelts, or abolishing private cars in favor of massive public transportation. However, it is a fact that you will then be faced with refusing medical care to people who will die if not treated.

“And the crimes, once committed, are a separate issue.”

No, it is the same issue. People who are not rich and become addicted to heroin, for instance, commit crimes. It is a causal relationship.

“Those that drink alcohol are a greater burden on our society actually.”

I think that’s a myth. I think drug users do many hundreds of times as much damage as drinkers.


131 posted on 12/07/2006 2:48:13 PM PST by dsc
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To: the OlLine Rebel

“Now YOU are being "extreme".

Nonsense. The truth of my statement, "It is very rare that an act of lethal stupidity affects only the actor," is easily demonstrated.

“This is a typical liberal view, such as everyone must be forced to wear seat belts because it'll drive up everyone's insurance costs. And/or because if the man dies (allegedly from no seat belt), he has affected his poor children.”

If you’re going to jump into the middle of a thread, would you at least have the courtesy to read what has gone before? This has already been dealt with, and forcing people to repeat themselves is just rude.

“Absurd. EVERYTHING affects everything else”

No, it doesn’t.

“So if it was truly applied, NOTHING would be legal”

Another misapplication of reductio ad absurdum. It is not valid to argue, “It would be terrible if we all acted irrationally, so we must not act at all.”


132 posted on 12/07/2006 2:57:04 PM PST by dsc
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To: Hot Tabasco

"Somehow I dont think the children in impoverished countries are receiving less medical care because somebody's dog is getting more attention...."

That isn't even close to the argument I've been making.

It is frightening the degree to which people are now conditioned by PC.


133 posted on 12/07/2006 2:59:00 PM PST by dsc
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To: null and void
I don't know why...but I just have to say it:

This is a VERY weird thread.

Ok. I'm done.
134 posted on 12/07/2006 3:02:24 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: null and void
I have a beagle with Alzheimer's and a half-boxer/half-terrier with congestive heart failure, so it doesn't come as a surprise that felines can get the same illness as humans and canines.

The funny thing is the cost of the medicine to treat these illnesses. My grandfather had both Alzheimer's and congestive heart failure and his meds cost several hundred dollars a month, but my beagle's pills cost twenty cents a day and my other dog's are about twice that.

135 posted on 12/07/2006 3:06:43 PM PST by Stonewall Jackson ("I see storms on the horizon.")
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To: pollyannaish

Yeah. I just can't seem to post a normal thread. *sigh*


136 posted on 12/07/2006 3:07:56 PM PST by null and void (To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funnybone. --Reba McEntire)
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To: Stonewall Jackson

And it's probably the exact smae meds. Funny, that...


137 posted on 12/07/2006 3:08:58 PM PST by null and void (To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funnybone. --Reba McEntire)
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To: null and void

They need to keep their brains busy. Maybe if they picked up a book.


138 posted on 12/07/2006 3:09:00 PM PST by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: toddlintown

I think some of them FReep, and I'm certain there are a whole bunch at DU...


139 posted on 12/07/2006 3:10:30 PM PST by null and void (To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funnybone. --Reba McEntire)
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To: null and void

LOL. Sometimes these things veer dangerously into the ditch. You've got to be more careful. ;-)


140 posted on 12/07/2006 3:10:32 PM PST by pollyannaish
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