Posted on 12/04/2006 9:08:57 AM PST by jjm2111
The State Bureau of Investigation is examining the case and three deputy sheriffs on the team are on paid leave, New Hanover County Sheriff Sid Causey said Sunday.
Peyton Strickland, 18, was killed Friday night at a home he shared with three roommates. His German shepherd dog, Blaze, also was shot to death.
The deputies were helping police for the University of North Carolina at Wilmington serve an arrest warrant that charged Strickland with armed robbery, assault with a deadly weapon and breaking and entering a vehicle.
Causey declined to identify the suspended deputies — members of an elite emergency response team — because he feared for their safety.
Roommate Mike Rhoton said Strickland was unarmed, but may have been holding a video game controller when he went to the door, which the roommate said was bashed in by officers.
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You are CORRECT.
misleading headline for sure.
"Given that this guy was 18, with several serious charges pending against him"
Just making up facts as you go along?? I read the article, it said he had a case pending for assault. One becomes several?? Misdemeanor assault becomes serious charges?? Sounds like a pushing match at a college frat party. Or quit hitting on my girlfriend. Look up the NC statutes for assault and see what falls into that category, you'd be surprised.
"It's VERY unlikely that they'd send out a "elite emergency response team" with no-knock entry authorization"
Never discount the perceived need to "train".
Kid was a punk, yes, Al Capone, no.
What if it was someone else coming to the door with a video game controller. Say his girlfriend or a younger brother? Would all of those who seem to take pleasure in jack booted thug law enforcement tactics be so gleeful?
Man! Here I just took the job for the free doughnuts and coffee.. and to think I could have been commiting murders too!
Dang it.
Well then they should have known better than to live with him or be associated with him. Or what if they kicked down the wrong door to begin with, are we all just a typo away from having our front doors kicked in?? And am i justified in sending a hail of bullets towards said kicked in door??
"Or what if they kicked down the wrong door to begin with, are we all just a typo away from having our front doors kicked in??"
Some on this thread would be happy if we were. Some would be very happy in a police state.
I don't know what city/ER you worked in but where I work the Ambulance brings in the folks who are co-operative.
The Po-Po bring in the ones who want to fight.
Well some have been only too happy to erode our 2nd Amendment rights over the last 2 decades. They don't like busting down doors if there are a bunch of guns on the other side. An armed society is a polite society.
I talked to a some of the EMT's who were at the scene(s) of the incidents, and in many cases the person(s) the cops brought in were not badly injured and not belligerent when they left, but had very serious, often life threatening injuries on arrival at the hospital. And yes, I know firsthand how belligerant drunks can get. I don't fault cops for restraining the true dickheads.
And no, this was not all cops. You know me, we've discussed this a number of times in the past. Remember my mall-cop wanna-be crack?
There is, however, a certain percentage of cops who like to "bust heads". Pure sadists on a huge ego & power trip. They make the good ones look really bad, and it's worse because most cops will cover for their own.
Your faith in humanity is overwhelming.
What bothers me about statements like this is that they don't allow for the idea of redemption.
Lest we all forget, one of the only persons in the history of mankind that I can say without a shadow of doubt is in heaven, was a thief who was being crucified next to Jesus.
Ah, a pleasant memory just came back to me.
We brought a guy into the ER, doped up, violent, fighting with us.
The female lesbian ER doctor on duty hated cops and hated men. We had the violent guy strapped down nice and tight.
Said ER female doctor ordered his restraints be loosened. (she was gonna show us)
Once the restraints wer loose the guy sat up and punched her square in the face.
I'm gettin' all teary-eyed just thinkin' about it.
Some days are better than others!
The charges pending against him include the ones that this arrest attempt were for. The fact that he hadn't yet appeared in court for these particular charges doesn't mean they shouldn't be taken into consideration when deciding how to approach taking him into custody. Note that the university police were not interested in trying to handle him on their own. The fact is, we know a lot less about his background than the people who made the decision to approach him this way knew. At this point, I see no reason to assume that it was inappropriate. Perhaps the investigation will bring to light facts that show otherwise, but I don't believe in jumping to conclusions that law enforcement is always in the wrong when somebody they're dealing with gets hurt.
A few years after I graduated from a small liberal arts college, the Vice President at the time was coming to speak there. The Secret Service has access to information about juvenile records, and put it to good use. They ended up doing a no-knock entry of a female student's dorm room. I'm sure at first there was wailing on campus about how this was unjustified abuse of power, yadda, yadda. But it turned out this student had a juvenile record that included arson and planting a bomb in the home of an official of her school. So the Secret Service agents did a little poking around, and had a chat with the girl's chemistry professor and lab TAs (who of course had no knowledge of her criminal background). Having learned from them that she had displayed unusual interest in certain types of explosives, they asked to have the chem labs' inventory of relevant chemicals checked. Uh oh, significant quantities of ingredients for the very things she'd been so interested in were inexplicably missing. When they did the no-knock entry, nobody who witnessed it or heard about it shortly afterwards understood why it was deemed necessary, but it was. And yes, she did have the chemicals in her dorm room, but she reportedly told the Secret Service agents she wasn't planning to blow up the VP, just the Dean's office!
And Yes again. I would like to know why the Universoity police asked for help and didn't stake out the pizza place, as you suggest.
I was just defending the plea b argain thing. I think it's one way of coping with a tough situation. You can't try 'em all, so you try to plead 'em down. I don't think it's good for the polity as a whole, but it's what we're willing to pay for ....
When your only tool is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
Listen: It's like this. If you're late to line up, you NEVER know what the SOP is. Nobody's gonna tell you; the captain probably forgot already anyway; and IF they bother to send out an email you know it's going to be incomprehensible.
But I was there, and I'll tell you, There was a signing bonus for sadists and if you can recruit a sadist you get a day off. And the best I can remember, the whole deal on murder was that you have to make sure that there's some kind of good reason, like, "He was holding a spatula and brandished it in a threatening manner." And make sure you don't ink at your partner when you're telling the magistrate or the IAD pukes.
If you can say that, then Hey! Good hunting! And don't forget, it's not sporting to shoot them if they're just standing still with their mouths open. (But I always shoot them anyway. I like to have my fun, ain' no pesky lawyer gonna get between me and my good times.)
I don't underSTAND these people! They say, "Police state" like it's a BAD thing!
Oh good! We got "hail of bullets". Now if someone will just type "Shots rang out," with a straight face we'll really be on a roll.
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