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I'm done with Gibson. I think he's got serious mental issues. I gave him the benefit of the doubt with 'The Passion', but this movie shows the blood/gore is a Gibson 'psychological issue'.
1 posted on 12/01/2006 3:38:12 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: AmericaUnited

Yeah, the Mayans were all puppies and kittens.


2 posted on 12/01/2006 3:44:29 AM PST by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: AmericaUnited

I'm looking forward to this. It is being called Gibson's best film ever. For pure screen spectacle and sheer beauty, I don't anything will beat it this year.


3 posted on 12/01/2006 3:46:27 AM PST by Silly (Still being... Silly)
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To: AmericaUnited
D'ya think that he knew his movie was going to turd when he lost it to the cop and told the truth?
4 posted on 12/01/2006 3:46:35 AM PST by Thebaddog (Labrador Retrievers are the dog's dog)
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To: Miss Marple
Ping!...The Fox guy agrees with you.
I think I do too.
6 posted on 12/01/2006 3:50:01 AM PST by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President....2008!)
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To: AmericaUnited

If I listened to the news the Poodle would be president. I think I'll form my own opinion.


8 posted on 12/01/2006 3:54:43 AM PST by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: AmericaUnited

Mad Max with Mayans? Can't go wrong with that!!!


9 posted on 12/01/2006 3:54:54 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: AmericaUnited

I won't see it, but probably my guys (hubby and son) will.

The thing about Gibson is that he picks subjects for his movies and then decides to portray them realistically.

Read about the Mayans...there's probably no more torture, blood, gore than is historically accurate.

Same with Passion of the Christ, the Bible says Jesus wasn't recognizable as a man after his beatings. The scourging was probably historically accurate.

Braveheart wasn't what you'd call "tame" either.

His desire, I guess, is realism, and his subjects are historical. That's better, in my book, than the garbage coming out of Hollywood like Kill Bill, etc.

I saw the Passion, but don't feel compelled to know more about the Mayans than I already know, so since I "can't stand the gore, I'll stay out of the theater."


11 posted on 12/01/2006 3:56:58 AM PST by dawn53
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To: AmericaUnited

So whats the beef? Is there a law that requires me to have to see the movie.
Mel Gibson and HollyWood may make all the movies they like, doesn't mean I am required to see it.

You say it's too bloody for the children, who's their parents, what is required by a parent?


12 posted on 12/01/2006 4:03:06 AM PST by buck61
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To: AmericaUnited
More and more it seems to me that these bloody spectacles are simply a proxy or an alternate medium to feed a similar blood lust that people here share with those who watched Gladiators cut each other's hearts out in the Roman arenas. Right before Rome fell.

I don't want anything to do with it.

Entertainment based on murder simply doesn't move or compel me to view it. I don't watch these films and hope I never have a desire to.

For others, if that's entertaining to them, fine. Enjoy it. For those who wish to consider it, it might be good to ask "Why?"

13 posted on 12/01/2006 4:09:17 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: AmericaUnited
Mad Max: Beyond Mayan Dome...


14 posted on 12/01/2006 4:09:58 AM PST by LRS
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To: AmericaUnited
The Mayans were blood thirsty savages. Maybe the most violent 'culture' in human history and worse than those evil Romans.

Hundreds of human sacrifices were performed daily - the temple steps flowed with a river of blood and with hearts ripped out while the 'victim' was still alive.

So what did Roger Friedman expect in a realistic retelling -- 'Bambi Goes To The Yucatan'?

17 posted on 12/01/2006 4:23:58 AM PST by Condor51 (Tagline Under Construction - Kindly Wear Your Hardhat)
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To: AmericaUnited

Have you seen the movie?


19 posted on 12/01/2006 4:26:16 AM PST by marvlus
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To: AmericaUnited

Gibson is basically right. The Mayans were incredibly violent. Put "Bonampak + Mayans" in your Google or Yahoo search and read what you find. The Mayans delighted in torture to almost the extreme. And yes, the city states were involved in civil wars. Tikal, the greatest city state of them all, has no stelae honoring leaders with the dates from 562 a.d. to around 692 a.d. and a stelae in Belice commemorates a victory over Tikal in 562 a.d. so the answer is somewhat obvious as to what happened. Pretty interesting stuff.


21 posted on 12/01/2006 4:28:22 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: AmericaUnited

I'm not expecting much from Apocalypto, but that was terrible preview


24 posted on 12/01/2006 4:29:46 AM PST by neutrality
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To: AmericaUnited

Mel seems to be a poster boy for the fact that getting to the top and having money does not guarantee happiness. He was probably better off when he had to struggle some. Now he seems to indulge his dark side. He needs to get right with God, come to terms with his age, and use his talent to benefit mankind. He might find some joy in his own future.


27 posted on 12/01/2006 4:33:50 AM PST by dforest (Don't get fooled, the bigger struggle is still out there, and growing)
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To: AmericaUnited

You cannot take anything Friedman writes or says seriously. He is a modern day Louella, complete with shameless ass kissing and character assassination where desired. He probably owns a collection of flashy dresses and hats also.


29 posted on 12/01/2006 4:38:26 AM PST by steve8714 (Study hard, if you do you'll do well..if not, you'll be stuck in the Senate.)
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To: AmericaUnited

That being said, the subject matter doesn't interest me, and realistic violence on screen has no benefit. More drama was created when the violence was merely suggested.


33 posted on 12/01/2006 4:43:14 AM PST by steve8714 (Study hard, if you do you'll do well..if not, you'll be stuck in the Senate.)
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To: AmericaUnited
a panther eats a man's head, and masticates. Half-dressed Mayans are shot through the head, heart and chest with arrows, and knifed sometimes without notice and almost always in the most gruesome ways possible. Heads roll and bounce, for real, down the long stairs of the Kukulcan Pyramid, or what we now regard the centerpiece of the Mayan ruins.

I don't feel like seeing this bloodbath. I'll go and see "The Nativity Story."

34 posted on 12/01/2006 4:44:38 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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Hollywood would love for Gibson to fail, and they'll do anything to hasten it. (He might, gasp, make another popular religious movie.)

Click on the link and there's a picture, not of a scene from the movie, but of Mel Gibson.

37 posted on 12/01/2006 4:54:54 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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To: AmericaUnited

---What it is, Gibson says, is the story of a civilization in transition, as the Mayans 500 years ago fought among themselves until visitors from Europe arrived by ship and spelled their doom. ---

This is complete misinformation. Mayan civilization was gone long before Europeans happened along.


38 posted on 12/01/2006 4:55:39 AM PST by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran)
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