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Pregnant star misses Vatican gala (16-yr-old "Mary" in "Nativity" is pregnant)
BBC News ^ | 11/29/06 | Not listed

Posted on 11/29/2006 8:22:47 PM PST by paulat

Pregnant star misses Vatican gala

Keisha Castle-Hughes has said she is too busy to attend the premiere The teenage star of a film about the Nativity is missing its Vatican premiere because she is expecting a baby with her 19-year-old partner. New Zealander Keisha Castle-Hughes, 16, who was nominated for an Oscar for her role in Whale Rider, plays Mary.

Pope Benedict XVI will also be unable to attend the Vatican's first premiere due to his forthcoming visit to Turkey.

A member for the Papal Council for Culture said the actress was expected to play her part well, not be a saint.

The actress, who is expecting a child in spring, said that she was "thrilled" at the news and had made the film "in a state of grace".

Biblical tale

The premiere of The Nativity Story, expected to be attended by 7,000 people, will take place in the Vatican's Paul VI Hall, which is used for Sunday masses when they are not held outside in St Peter's Square.

The film was shot in southern Italy and Morocco

The film was shot partly in Matera, Italy, the same location used for Mel Gibson's The Passion of The Christ.

It recounts the Biblical tale from the Angel Gabriel's announcement to Mary that she will give birth to Jesus, to the visit of the three wise men to the new baby.

It has been produced by the US-based production company New Line Cinema, which was also involved in the Lord of The Rings trilogy, and will open in the US and Italy next month.

Oscar Isaac, a 30-year-old US actor, plays Joseph opposite Castle-Hughes.

Born in Australia, Castle-Hughes moved to New Zealand aged four with her Maori mother and Australian father. She became a New Zealand citizen in 2001.

Proceeds of the premiere will go towards the building of a school in the northern Israeli village of Mughar which Druze, Muslim and Christian children will attend


TOPICS: Religion; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: nativitystory; thenativitystory
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To: Stone Mountain

"Attach a stigma to the mother..."

Oh, please, lets not do that. All that will do is not only have people tossing the words "bastard" around, but then "slut" and "whore" too.
MM


141 posted on 11/30/2006 4:57:59 PM PST by motormouth (Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.)
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To: motormouth

You're right - I was trying to distinguish between the mother and the child in terms of where the blame should lie, but yes, it isn't cool to stigmatize anyone.


142 posted on 11/30/2006 5:01:56 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: motormouth

Yeah, God forbid anyone ever be made to feel ashamed of bad behavior.


143 posted on 11/30/2006 5:04:22 PM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Stone Mountain

:o) Thank you.

BTW: post #131 was dead on. Nice job.

MM


144 posted on 11/30/2006 5:05:15 PM PST by motormouth (Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.)
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To: Xenalyte

Convincing someone to feel ashamed of bad behavior will NOT be accomplished by calling them names.

MM


145 posted on 11/30/2006 5:07:07 PM PST by motormouth (Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.)
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To: motormouth

Then perhaps you will enlighten me, since (silly me) I am evidently laboring under a misapprehension.

Perhaps I'm misinterpreting those statistics that show unwed births rising, rising, rising over the past few decades.

Maybe I'm attaching too much weight to the value of a mother and a father with enough education to make enough money to support their children.

It's possible I'm seeing a correlation where none exists, when I observe the surely unrelated facts of rising single motherhood and rising incarceration rates.


146 posted on 11/30/2006 5:10:08 PM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: motormouth

You've never been a teenage girl, have you?

Calling a teenage girl names can make her ashamed of anything.


147 posted on 11/30/2006 5:11:46 PM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Xenalyte

Well, just damn, sounds like you have everything all figured out...
However, we were talking about name calling and people having shame and embarrassment for bad behavior..I believe thats where you put you two cents in and I responded.
No one here has said that having a child at 16 or any age without being married is right but it happens none the less and labeling or calling that child a "bastard" or the mother a "slut" or a "whore" doesnt rectify the problem it only shows ignorance and judgement...And the last time I checked, there is one and one alone that is required to judge..and it aint you.

MM


148 posted on 11/30/2006 5:20:20 PM PST by motormouth (Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.)
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To: Xenalyte

Ok.. ready? have a seat.

I have been a teenage girl and I can do one better, I was a 16 year old girl that was pregnant and ALL the insults in the world wouldnt have changed that.

MM


149 posted on 11/30/2006 5:24:00 PM PST by motormouth (Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.)
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To: motormouth

You win.


150 posted on 11/30/2006 5:25:08 PM PST by Xenalyte (Anything is possible when you don't understand how anything happens.)
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To: Xenalyte
You're right. Teenage girls are impressionable. Words can change their actions. Words like -- "You're still a virgin?" "But I loooooooove you." "If you loved me, you'd show me." Even "good girls" from "good homes" make tragic mistakes.

The best things a parent can do for a teenage girl is give her stability in a home, knowledge of God's laws, respect for herself, hope for her future, and reasonable boundaries. Society should support those things. But when someone stumbles into sin, the best anyone of us can do is to help pick them up, dust them off, point them in the right direction, and walk beside them on the way. Saying "You Fool! You stumbled!" accomplishes little.

151 posted on 11/30/2006 5:30:33 PM PST by Chanticleer (Courage is not simply one of the virtues but the form of every virtue at the testing point. Lewis)
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To: Ramius; paulat
She is a 16-year-old girl in love with a 19-year-old boy who impregnated her.

Which I find ironic that she is being nominated for a movie called 'Whale Rider'.

152 posted on 11/30/2006 5:37:14 PM PST by uglybiker (Don't look at me. I didn't make you stupid.)
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To: Xenalyte
God forbid anyone ever be made to feel ashamed of bad behavior.

And YOU'RE going to be the guy to do it, huh?
153 posted on 11/30/2006 5:48:36 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Stone Mountain
Attach a stigma to the mother. Not the innocent child. Is this really a difficult concept?

I AM! You should not have any sense that I'm condemning an innocent child! Come on -- that's ridiculous!

Now let it go. Sheesh!

154 posted on 11/30/2006 5:49:01 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Stone Mountain

Psssstt... the "guy" is a girl. :o)

MM


155 posted on 11/30/2006 5:50:57 PM PST by motormouth (Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.)
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To: Xenalyte
Perhaps I'm misinterpreting those statistics that show unwed births rising, rising, rising over the past few decades.

Maybe I'm attaching too much weight to the value of a mother and a father with enough education to make enough money to support their children.

It's possible I'm seeing a correlation where none exists, when I observe the surely unrelated facts of rising single motherhood and rising incarceration rates.

And your solution is to insult the people who don't bring up a child in the way that you agree with?

156 posted on 11/30/2006 5:51:08 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Xenalyte
Calling a teenage girl names can make her ashamed of anything.

This is a solution? Geez...
157 posted on 11/30/2006 5:51:56 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Stone Mountain
You're being quite sympathetic to the little bastard? How wonderful

I didn't use the term "little bastard." You've got some serious issues that can't be addressed via FR. If you look at my initial post, I am saying that the situation is bad for the child, and that the baby's mother has made an unfortunate decision.

Why are you so pro-illegitamacy? Why so anti-marriage? Go to DU if you don't feel comfortable with the concept that having a baby out of wedlock is less than ideal.

158 posted on 11/30/2006 5:52:53 PM PST by Theo (Global warming "scientists." Pro-evolution "scientists." They're both wrong.)
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To: Theo
I AM! You should not have any sense that I'm condemning an innocent child! Come on -- that's ridiculous!

Well, what do you call it when you call an innocent child a bastard?

Now let it go. Sheesh!

I disagree with calling children bastards. If you admit you were wrong to do so, I'll gladly let it go. Otherwise, I'm going to call fouls where I see fouls.
159 posted on 11/30/2006 5:53:58 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Theo; Stone Mountain

"Her baby is a bastard."

Hmmmm, youre right..Sorry Stone, he's right, he didnt say "little bastard", just bastard.

MM


160 posted on 11/30/2006 5:56:27 PM PST by motormouth (Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one.)
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