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Choosing The Right Vista(Windows Vista Chart/Features)
HardOCP ^ | 11/24/2006 | Steve

Posted on 11/24/2006 6:18:49 PM PST by Echo Talon

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To: Echo Talon

I think the parental control systems could be a little too intrusive for businesses, which would probably rather regulate access themselves in response to their needs. Also, I think Vista will be like the current Windows but more so - that is, it will be constantly updating from the web and that could probably create some problems for commercial use.


41 posted on 11/24/2006 7:24:48 PM PST by livius
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To: rzeznikj at stout
Meh, most of those features I could just get a new computer with an AMD64 under the hood and run an x86-64 enterprise Linux (e.g. RH, SLED, etc.)...8^)

Then spend the rest of your life in Linux help forums... I know I have spent more than enough of my time in those.

42 posted on 11/24/2006 7:29:47 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Doohickey

Probably.

Since I'm running Linux and don't use XP as my main OS any more, a good deal is that I'm just simply unimpressed by Vista.

And looking at the specs, I know that I'd have to jack up the memory and get a new hard drive (for starters) on that emachines desktop.

My main view is that it doesn't really make sense to upgrade right away--but once newer versions of needed apps require Vista, then it's definitely time to upgrade. The same goes with new computers--they will likely come with Vista and people will upgrade naturally when they get a new computer.

Not to say that people and businesses ought to wait until push comes to shove, but right now it's probably not crucial to upgrade to Vista right off the bat unless you're buying a new PC within the next few months


43 posted on 11/24/2006 7:32:20 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: livius
Windows Vista DVD to Ship with Over 19,000 Drivers

Hmmm, not to shabby... :)

44 posted on 11/24/2006 7:32:44 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: rzeznikj at stout

are you still using that old eMachines? did you ever get a new dvd burner?


45 posted on 11/24/2006 7:34:05 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

Since I got Slack running, I haven't had to use the forums (at least so far)...

This illustrates one of the differences between Linux and Windows--Windows is admittedly more user-friendly (even nine and ten year olds can use it without a problem) whereas Linux requires some technical savvy to work the system.

It's a tradeoff--there are pros and cons to each OS. People have to decide which OS is best for their needs. I've determined that for what I have to do, Linux is my best option (and I don't regret it).

My mum on the other hand is completely lost when I have her shut down my Linux box (and has accounting software that needs Windows)--thus Linux isn't the best OS for her; Windows is.

Linux might not be right for you, and that's fine...

As for the forums--there's plenty of documentation available for most of the major flavors of Linux. As I know you're aware--Linux can be customized far more than Windows and thus there is no "standard documentation." Sometimes, yes, it can be a pain in the butt. But I also know I'm learning something about my computer in the process.

Not to say that everything will just work right out of the box in a point-and-click manner like Windows, but unless something really bizarre comes up, chances are some other user has had the same issue and another guy's got a good solution.


46 posted on 11/24/2006 7:41:01 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: Petronski

I'm using Ubuntu 6.06 LTS as I type this!


47 posted on 11/24/2006 7:43:13 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Echo Talon

Yes, and yes.

I picked up an LG burner from Best Buy when it was on sale. Not that I enjoy Best But though...

I'm looking at getting a new computer--though I only need the tower, and I can use the DVD burner, the hard drive, the USB ports, fan, etc.

I just have a crappy motherboard (Trigem Imperial w/Celeron), an Intel 845GV video (not bad, but could be better IMHO); and not enough RAM.

And by the time I look at upgrading these components, it'd probably be cheaper and less time-consuming just to get a new tower...

My parents aren't happy that I'm asking for a Mac Mini for Christmas though...


48 posted on 11/24/2006 7:46:13 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: rzeznikj at stout
I do use both, Windows AND Linux... But, overall BY FAR Linux is harder to use(and I even use the "easy" versions PCLinuxOS and Mepis) Yes, the forums are very good and the people are nice, but lots of my time is wasted getting stupid things fixed that should just "work out of the box", I have used MANY MANY Linux distro's(I'm a distro whore) and have settled on those 2.. ALL have their pluses and minuses but for me those are the best.

Here is a pretty good deal if you still need a burner retail $31.99 shipping $6.13

49 posted on 11/24/2006 7:53:08 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: rzeznikj at stout

look over at HardOCP.com they have hot deals, they search the web tell you the hot deals that are going on.. I know what its like to be on a budget... They had a killer deal on a mobo(integrated video), processor and hard drive a while back...


50 posted on 11/24/2006 7:55:56 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

Will have to check it out...

The only disadvantage to the Mac route is that I'm not 100% sure I can use my DVD burner (it's internal) with a Mac Mini...


51 posted on 11/24/2006 7:59:06 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: rzeznikj at stout
here is a better dvd burner deal... 18X :) still newegg... :) heads up from hardocp

SAMSUNG Black 18X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 18X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache IDE DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write, LightScribe Technology - OEM

52 posted on 11/24/2006 7:59:08 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: rzeznikj at stout; Swordmaker

ask swordmaker, im not an Apple dude..


53 posted on 11/24/2006 8:00:04 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: rzeznikj at stout
yea, newegg still has some pretty attractive combo deals...
Click here then under Category: choose "AMD-Compatible Motherboards" let the page load then scroll down... enjoy. ;)
54 posted on 11/24/2006 8:10:25 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: rzeznikj at stout
oops click here then choose "amd compatibe motherboards" sorry about that.
55 posted on 11/24/2006 8:13:57 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon
they can do that if they want to... I don't understand why though.

Increased hw requirements, learning curve. Lots of the end users are just focused on staying inside Office and Outlook, but get somewhat uncomfortable when having to do other tasks outside that.

56 posted on 11/24/2006 8:18:24 PM PST by ikka
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To: ikka
yea i can understand that. Although IF they could upgrade for cheap "non-profit" i would try to talk them into it for the security.
57 posted on 11/24/2006 8:20:49 PM PST by Echo Talon
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To: rzeznikj at stout
The only disadvantage to the Mac route is that I'm not 100% sure I can use my DVD burner (it's internal) with a Mac Mini...

If you are going to burn DVDs, get the $799 Mac Mini with the Superdrive, not the $599 one with a Combo drive. Alternately, mount your Burner in an exterior USB2 or Firewire case and use it.

PS, Echo is right... he's not a Mac guy.

58 posted on 11/24/2006 8:51:00 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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To: Swordmaker

Cool. Something to keep in mind...

Our campus bookstore is getting a Mac shop in it starting on Monday--nice and close...8^)


59 posted on 11/24/2006 9:00:13 PM PST by rzeznikj at stout (Boldly Going Nowhere...)
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To: Echo Talon

The best choice is not to choose. Stick with what you have...Or go back.


60 posted on 11/24/2006 9:05:06 PM PST by Revel
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