Posted on 11/19/2006 3:30:50 PM PST by A. Pole
Tancredo says president believes nation should be merely 'idea' without borders
PALM BEACH, Fla. President Bush believes America should be more of an idea than an actual place, a Republican congressman told WND in an exclusive interview.
"People have to understand what we're talking about here. The president of the United States is an internationalist," said Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo. "He is going to do what he can to create a place where the idea of America is just that it's an idea. It's not an actual place defined by borders. I mean this is where this guy is really going."
Tancredo lashed out at the White House's lack of action in securing U.S. borders, and said efforts to merge the U.S. with both Mexico and Canada is not a fantasy.
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He pointed to Florida's largest city as an example of how the nature of America can be changed by uncontrolled immigration.
"Look at what has happened to Miami. It has become a Third World country," he said. "You just pick it up and take it and move it someplace. You would never know you're in the United States of America. You would certainly say you're in a Third World country."
He said quickly changing demographics can cause big problems, and specifically cited the "Islamization of Europe" in recent years which has led to conflict across the continent.
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Appointing John Bolton seemed like a pretty good move to me.
Tancredo = Pat Buchannan redux.
Wish he'd just fade away. He's a pest who accomplishes nothing but his own self-gratification.
Well .. I don't agree with that either. Tancredo can say whatever he wants .. but he's said these kinds of things before and that's why I don't support him.
But .. I don't want to take away his right to free speech - I just don't believe what he said.
That's a bit like saying "The invention of the car really just changed the structure of the horse and buggy."
Reagan had to deal with a Democrat congress.
Yah, so what?
America is a lot more of a mindset then it is a place. There isn't anything particularly special about the planes of Nebraska, the deserts of Arizona, the mountains of Colorado, or the swamps of Florida. There are equivilant locations in other places.
What's unique about America is our system of government, or belief in the importance of the individual, and the fact that we are not an ancient line of heirarchy, but a melting pot.
Even if Tancredo is right, and America is just a place, then why is it worth 'protecting' from those Mexicans he's so afraid of? What's so special about it that we must keep it 'pure' as he sees it?
If the US borders are erased, all America (Anglo and Latin) get merged and all the world gets invited in, will the Americas and world become like USA or will USA become like the rest?
Come on, you don't have to jump on the old "right to say it line"
We all are in agreement of the free speech thing. Its just
that when a member of your team starts spewing against the
team, he needs to get with the program. Is all I'm saying.
Please, that article is not much more than gossip mongering.
You just solved the mystery of the lemmings.
He's a one issue elected rep. With him it just becomes like he's beating a dead horse.
Not exactly. I am arguing that the US existed before the Constitution was written, and that the Constitution did not create the US but reorganized power in the system.
Under your analogy If you are saying that the horse and buggy are the Articles of Confederation, and the US Constitution is the car. What I would be arguing is that transportation didn't begin with the car, because the horse and buggy came before the car. The creation of the car did not create transportation, it merely changed the way that people got around, and how efficiently that happened.
Here is a little history you need to study. While Reagan gave amnesty to approx 3 million illegals, he never endorsed giving welfare to illegals. I've only posted part of this but to think illegals can get mortages without a ss number blows my mind. We have sunk as a nation. Reagan never proposed any of this mess that we are in today and I think it is inexcusable for free traders to use him as a scapegoat.
http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/ssnchron.html
Reagan Administration stated that it "is explicitly opposed to the creation of a national identity card" but recognized the need for a means for employers to comply with the employer sanctions provisions of its immigration reform legislation.
Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1981 (P.L. 97-35) required the disclosure of the SSNs of all adult members in the household of children applying to the school lunch program.
Social Security Benefits Act (P.L. 97-123)
Section 4 added alteration and forgery of a Social Security card to the list of prohibited acts and increased the penalties for such acts.
Section 6 required any Federal, State or local government agency to furnish the name and SSN of prisoners convicted of a felony to the Secretary of HHS, to enforce suspension of disability benefits to certain imprisoned felons.
Department of Defense Authorization Act (P.L. 97-86) required disclosure of the SSNs to the Selective Service System of all individuals required to register for the draft.
1982 Debt Collection Act (P.L. 97-365) required that all applicants for loans under any Federal loan program furnish their SSNs to the agency supplying the loan.
All Social Security cards issued to legal aliens not authorized to work within the United States were annotated "NOT VALID FOR EMPLOYMENT" beginning in May.
1983 The Social Security Amendments of 1983 (P.L. 98-21) required that new and replacement Social Security cards issued after October 30 be made of banknote paper and (to the maximum extent practicable) not be subject to counterfeiting.
The Interest and Dividend Tax Compliance Act (P.L. 98-67) requires SSNs for all interest-bearing accounts and provides a penalty of $50 for all individuals who fail to furnish a correct TIN (usually the SSN)
1984 Deficit Reduction Act of 1984 (P.L. 98-369)
Amended the Social Security Act to establish an income and eligibility verification system involving State agencies administering the AFDC, Medicaid, unemployment compensation, the food stamp programs, and State programs under a plan approved under title I, X, XIV, or XVI of the Act. States were permitted to require the SSN as a condition of eligibility for benefits under any of these programs.
Amended Section 6050I of the IRC to require that persons engaged in a trade or business file a report (including SSNs) with the IRS for cash transactions over $10,000.
Amended Section 215 of the IRC to authorize the Secretary of HHS to publish regulations that require a spouse paying alimony to furnish IRS with the taxpayer identification number (i.e., the SSN) of the spouse receiving alimony payments.
1986 The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (P.L. 99-603):
Required the Comptroller General to investigate technological changes that could reduce the potential for counterfeiting Social Security cards;
Provides that the Social Security card may be used to establish the eligibility of a prospective employee for employment; and
Required the Secretary of HHS to undertake a study of the feasibility and costs of establishing an SSN verification system.
Tax Reform Act of 1986 (P.L. 99-514) required individuals filing a tax return due after December 31, 1987, to include the taxpayer identification number--usually the SSN--of each dependent age 5 or older.
Commercial Motor Vehicle Safety Act of 1986 (P.L. 99-750) authorized the Secretary of Transportation to require the use of the SSN on commercial motor vehicle operators' licenses.
Higher Education Amendments of 1986 (P.L. 99-498) required that student loan applicants submit their SSN as a condition of eligibility.
1987 SSA initiated a demonstration project on August 17 in the State of New Mexico enabling parents to obtain Social Security numbers for their newborn infants automatically when the infant's birth was registered by the State. The program was expanded nationwide in 1989. Currently, all 50 States participate in the program, as well as New York City, Washington, D.C., and Puerto Rico.
1988 Housing and Community Development Act of 1987 (P.L. 100-242) authorized the Secretary of HUD to require disclosure of a person's SSN as a condition of eligibility for any HUD program.
The Family Support Act of 1988 (P.L. 100-485):
Section 125 required, beginning November 1, 1990, a State to obtain the SSNs of the parents when issuing a birth certificate.
Section 704(a) required individuals filing a tax return due after December 31, 1989, to include the taxpayer identification number--usually the SSN--of each dependent age 2 or older.
The Technical and Miscellaneous Revenue Act of 1988 (P.L. 100-647):
Authorized a State and/or any blood donation facility to use SSNs to identify blood donors (205(c)(2)(F)).
Required that all title II beneficiaries either have or have applied for an SSN in order to receive benefits. This provision became effective with dates of initial entitlement of June 1989 or later. Beneficiaries who refused enumeration were entitled but placed in suspense.
Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1988 (P.L. 100-690) deleted the $5,000 and $25,000 upper limits on fines that can be imposed for violations of section 208 of the Social Security Act.The general limit of $250,000 for felonies in the U.S. Code now applied to SSN violations under section 208 of the Social Security Act. Also, penalties for misuse of SSNs apply as well in cases where the number is referred to by any other name (e.g., taxpayer identification number (TIN)).
So that makes him a 'weirdo'??? I just think your a Bush-bot and that it botheres you when someone rips the president on an issue. Bush is for open borders. He has no real intentions of putting a fence up. He is a globalist. He spends like a liberal... He is a Republican.. not a CONSERVATIVE. Theres a big difference
Tancredo is anti immigration. I'm not. It has nothing to do with Bush's stance on the issue.
He vetoed yet another cranky, useless thing against Israel recently.
But, I agree that we Americans pay way too much to support the UN.
They should handle charity food distribution, and that's it.
Do you think that foreigners should be allowed to enter USA illegally and to stay here?
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