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Bush doesn't think America should be an actual place [Tancredo and WND stuff words into Bush's mouth
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | November 19, 2006 | Joe Kovacs

Posted on 11/19/2006 3:30:50 PM PST by A. Pole

Tancredo says president believes nation should be merely 'idea' without borders

PALM BEACH, Fla. – President Bush believes America should be more of an idea than an actual place, a Republican congressman told WND in an exclusive interview.

"People have to understand what we're talking about here. The president of the United States is an internationalist," said Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo. "He is going to do what he can to create a place where the idea of America is just that – it's an idea. It's not an actual place defined by borders. I mean this is where this guy is really going."

Tancredo lashed out at the White House's lack of action in securing U.S. borders, and said efforts to merge the U.S. with both Mexico and Canada is not a fantasy.

[...]

He pointed to Florida's largest city as an example of how the nature of America can be changed by uncontrolled immigration.

"Look at what has happened to Miami. It has become a Third World country," he said. "You just pick it up and take it and move it someplace. You would never know you're in the United States of America. You would certainly say you're in a Third World country."

He said quickly changing demographics can cause big problems, and specifically cited the "Islamization of Europe" in recent years which has led to conflict across the continent.

[...]

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; borders; illegal; illegalaliens; immigration; liarsandlies; mentallyillforreal; nuttybush; nuttytancreado; schizophrenia; shutuptom; thisthreadisowned; wnd
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To: admin

Please correct title of this thread.


41 posted on 11/19/2006 4:29:41 PM PST by ViLaLuz (Chronicles 7:14)
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To: RGSpincich
Uh oh, you are introducing facts that many freepers prefer to ignore.

As for Tancredo......ugh.

Ronald Reagan had one mission and that was to defeat communism. No small accomplishment but many many domestic issues fell to the wayside.

42 posted on 11/19/2006 4:30:38 PM PST by OldFriend (FALLEN HERO JEFFREY TOCZYLOWSKI, REST IN PEACE)
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To: A. Pole

Tom Tancredo and WND saying stupid things in harmony. Why am I not surprised?


43 posted on 11/19/2006 4:30:52 PM PST by r9etb
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To: texastoo

Do you not understand that in order to get the funding for defense, President Reagan allowed congress social spending to their heart's content.


44 posted on 11/19/2006 4:32:55 PM PST by OldFriend (FALLEN HERO JEFFREY TOCZYLOWSKI, REST IN PEACE)
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To: NapkinUser
Is the common currency the line?

Who has introduced the bill to do so? Give me the bill number, not the edition of the John Birch crap you read.

45 posted on 11/19/2006 4:34:01 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: All

FYI, a moderator changed the title, not the poster.


46 posted on 11/19/2006 4:35:09 PM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: A. Pole

America is an "idea" now?


Is this what it has become? Some idealistic concept that we can take or leave if we should so decide?

This is what so many of our brave have died for, for so long?

Silly me, I thought it was actually a place of dreams fulfilled, a land of discovery, of purpose-- a shining example of what can be done with courage, determination,.hard work and FREEDOM. A place of hope. AND, a place with actual borders, and not just an abstraction.

Guess I'm just one of those overly emotional "reactionaries" who doesn't see the "broad picture" that those "progressive" internationalists see.

I do not wish them well in their quest for a diverse one-world government. There is no kind of misery more imaginable that what would result from this silly fantasy.

What the fools do not understand, is that all nations and cultures came about NATURALLY, from passion for and love of surrounding soil, to create their own identity, through art, costume, food, etc, and to have something to DIE for.
This is why Italians love things Italian, Greeks things that are Greek, etc. It is what all nations have nutured, enjoyed, and yes, FOUGHT for--for thousands of years. These are the things that give meaning to life for many.

liberals will never understand this. They foolishly believe they can put us under one common (will they need a flag?)govt that will force to just "get along" and don't be mean(or else). We would spend most of our time getting high and contemplating the universe. No more war because there will be nothing to defend. Peace will prevail.

What will happen of course, is that the more passionate among us will soon get bored and seek out adversity and identity again. Tribalism will rise and dominate and the not so passionate will be the first to go. THAT'S nature and it cannot be overruled by liberal child-thought.

And yes, war is a part of it.

Mr. Bush, tell us more about the "idea" of America again, if that is what you indeed think about.






47 posted on 11/19/2006 4:35:50 PM PST by Grateful One
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To: Grateful One

Correction: NUTURED


48 posted on 11/19/2006 4:37:50 PM PST by Grateful One
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To: Grateful One

Except France, of course.


49 posted on 11/19/2006 4:39:08 PM PST by Grateful One
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To: txflake
Title change. Doubt it's the original from the article.

Panta rei

50 posted on 11/19/2006 4:41:05 PM PST by A. Pole (Sun Tzu: "If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.")
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To: Grateful One
re: Is this what it has become? Some idealistic concept that we can take or leave if we should so decide? )))

"You're just a nattering nabob of neo-nativism...thank goodness we lost the election so we can win the surrender," said Tony Snow: The surrender, that is, to Mexico.

51 posted on 11/19/2006 4:44:35 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: catholicfreeper
You know its a serious problems when Tancredo spreads this stuff

Tancredo is 100% correct on this whole issue. Bush is a globalist. How can I say that? Has he urged for any US funding to the UN to be cut? No! I believe only a few congressmen from the midwest have been vocal about that in our government.

Aside from a few pro gun bills and tax cuts for certain brackets that he signed, there is really nothing conservative about him or his administration. Government agencies have grown and so have their payrolls. If Bush was a real conservative, he would have put a large part ATF on his chopping block during his first term! To add insult to injury, he has been a lame duck on the border issue!
52 posted on 11/19/2006 4:45:34 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: old republic
The Constitution merely changed the structure of the government

Did it ever! The Federal Constitution changed everything. They still called it the United States of America. America remained underneath, untouched where it still is no matter how many layers of state are piled on top.

53 posted on 11/19/2006 4:48:08 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: BigTom85
Tancredo is 100% correct on this whole issue.

Maybe, but he still confutes America and The United States of America.

54 posted on 11/19/2006 4:49:36 PM PST by RightWhale (RTRA DLQS GSCW)
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To: NapkinUser

"Because Tancredo isn't afraid to say when president Bush is wrong."

No because I think Tancredo is a weirdo.


55 posted on 11/19/2006 4:54:23 PM PST by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: r9etb

Where's James Traficant when we need him? LOL!


56 posted on 11/19/2006 4:54:47 PM PST by ShandaLear (Perfect People Need Support, too.)
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To: Shermy
Seemingly racial comments like Tandredo's only hurt the cause of the interests of most Americans, not help it.

Let's meet on a halfway point. While you give support (maybe inadvertently) to the PC ideal that everything about Western Civilization is somehow evil I take the stance that this continent would never have moved up to World Power status without the influx of primarily European immigrants injecting technological innovation while sharing more cultural traits and commonalities than not.

Representative Tancredo has been careful to point out that every move to legitimize illegals via the wide array of pseudo-amnesty programs require officers on all levels to abide a two-tiered system of law enforcement where illegals get to skate while a legal citizen is held in stricter regard. Considering the progress of communities where this practice is already public policy (sanctuary cities, etc.), I say that Tom is not the yahoo alarmist portrayed but the necons but the prophet of our increasingly disenfranchised future.

57 posted on 11/19/2006 5:10:07 PM PST by NewRomeTacitus
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To: texastoo
Do you actually think Reagan would have approved welfare, anchor babies, WIC, food stamps, free health care, free dental care, free education for illegal aliens?

He did all that and more for 2.7 million illegals who received amnesty in 1986.

But my statement was merely meant to point out the flaw in Tancredo's logic. In 1979 Reagan proposed the North American accord, which looked a lot like the NAFTA superhighway.

58 posted on 11/19/2006 5:10:54 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: marajade
I hate Tancredo.

And that would be because...?
59 posted on 11/19/2006 5:22:05 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
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To: ShandaLear
What a riduclous article. No substance at all.

What are you takling about? Pull your head out of the sand for a minute. Tancredo is correct about bush being a globalist. The UN would love to see a one world socialist government-- Bush has not done too much to put the UN out of business... because they are still getting funding! If he was serious about the issue, he would have slashed federal $ going to them!
60 posted on 11/19/2006 5:27:58 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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