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College Football - Live Thread - Week Twelve
Sportsline.com Scoreboard ^ | Thursday November 16th to Saturday November 18th

Posted on 11/16/2006 2:36:27 PM PST by MikefromOhio

Weekend Eleven threw the entire BCS mess into an even bigger mess if that is possible. No fewer than 3 one loss teams lost (Texas, Auburn, Cal) while another one (Florida) needed to block 3 kicks to win their game 17-16 against South Carolina. This week is the week that just about everyone in the national media has been waiting for. The greatest rivalry in college football renews and that game finds that Ohio State is #1 and Michigan is #2 for the first time in the 102 game history of this game.



Saturday, November 18th, 2006 (ABC)

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(2) Michigan at (1) Ohio State (-7)


It doesn’t get any better than this. For the FIRST time ever, an 11-0 Ohio State team will play an 11-0 Michigan team. For the FIRST time ever, the teams are ranked 1 and 2 in every major poll. For the FIRST time ever, the loser of this game will end up in the Rose Bowl. This is the best rivalry in college football, and this one clearly has the best setup of any of those previous 102 games.

Ohio State and Michigan have both played dominant defense and very well on offense. Ohio State has a Heisman candidate in Troy Smith and Michigan has a Heisman candidate in Mike Hart. Ohio State has a coach that has brought a new focus to this rivalry whereas Michigan has the coach who was so dominant in this rivalry that Ohio State was forced to make a change. Does it sound like I’m having issues picking this game? Really I’m not. Every comparison for these teams shows that Ohio State is better on offense while Michigan is better on defense except for scoring defense. In the end, this game will come down to who makes the bigger plays. I think Troy Smith, who has burned Michigan each of the previous two years, will make enough plays to allow Ohio State to win this game.

Ohio State 28 – Michigan 18

Thursday, November 16th, 2006 (ESPN2 Friday Night Game)


(8) West Virginia (-10.5) at Pittsburgh

Pittsburgh started out the season looking like a contender for the Big East championship. Unfortunately loss to Rutgers about a month ago, this team seems to have lost it’s way. For WVU, this game is all about remaining in the hunt for the Big East championship. West Virginia is NOT out of the BCS National Title hunt, but needs a lot of help to get there.

WVU 44 – Pitt 20

Saturday November 18th 2006 (in ranking order)

Western Carolina at (3) Florida (NL)

Florida 53 – Western Carolina 3

(17) Cal at (4) USC (-5.5) ****UPSET WATCH****

USC 38 – Cal 31

(5) Arkansas (-15) at Mississippi St.

Arkansas 39 – Mississippi St. 12

Army at (6) Notre Dame (-28.5)

Army 70 – ND 6

Just kidding….

ND 42 – Army 10

(7) Rutgers (-6.5) at Cincinnati ****UPSET ALERT****

Cincinnati 23 – Rutgers 20

Mississippi at (9) LSU (-27)

LSU 38 – Mississippi 13

South Florida at (10) Louisville (-16.5)

Louisville 44 – South Florida 20

(11) TEXAS BYE

Buffalo at (12) Wisconsin (-38)

Wisconsin 53 – Buffalo 0

Utah St. at (13) Boise State (-37.5)

Boise St. 34 – Utah State 10

(19) Virginia Tech at (14) Wake Forest (PICK) ****UPSET WATCH****

Wake 22 – VT 18

(15) Auburn (-3) at Alabama

Auburn 23 – Alabama 17

(16) Oklahoma (-20.5) at Baylor

Oklahoma 38 – Baylor 14

Duke at (18) Georgia Tech (-26.5) ****UPSET WATCH****

Georgia Tech 21 – Duke 3

(21) Maryland at (20) Boston College (-7)

BC 24 – Maryland 21

(22) Tennessee (-8.5) at Vanderbilt

Tennessee 31 – Vandy 17

New Mexico at (23) BYU (-26.5)

BYU 42 – New Mexico 20

(24) Nebraska BYE

(25) Clemson BYE

BY REQUEST

New Mexico at (23) BYU (-26.5)

New Mexico hasn’t disappointed yet this year. I pick them, they lose. I pick against them, they win. I paper this one doesn’t look like it will be very close. Let’s see how this prediction goes….

BYU 42 – New Mexico 20

Texas A&M BYE

Western Michigan at Florida State (-16)

I never thought I would see the day that Florida State would be ONLY a 16 point favorite against a directional school. Now the good news for FSU fans is that Jeff Bowden has been canned resigned, but the bad news is that he’s still there the rest of this season.

FSU 41 – Western Michigan 12


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To: MikefromOhio
Oh yeah and finding a way to actually STOP Troy Smith would help you all too.....

No problem. Just put a spy on him all game long. That does leave one less person in coverage so I guess they'll just have to rely on single coverage when the buckeyes throw out 4 and 5 receiver sets. Leon Hall and Morgan Trent both have 4.2 type speed to cover Ginn and Gonzo, right? Let's assume that they do...

That just leaves Brian Hartline and Brian Robiskie to cover. Problem solved. Oh wait we still have a TE to account for as well as possibly having to worry about Pittman coming out of the backfield...

There's a reason that the line has increased to 7 for this game. Too many weapons to try to match up against. The only exposure is going to be Michigan's secondary. Remember last years Fiesta? Speed Kills.

101 posted on 11/16/2006 8:14:54 PM PST by Nasher (GO BUCKS)
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To: GOP_Raider

"And one can hope Yuma and ABQ will be at least warmer than it is here in Boise."

It was 90 degrees and windy here in Yuma today. My dad said it was 55 in Albuquerque. On a side note, it looks pretty good for Boise St's BCS hopes if they can run the table. I'm pulling for them. I hate the BCS, and anytime a so-called mid-major can stick it to them I'll be happy.


102 posted on 11/16/2006 8:26:56 PM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

I'm not sure if I get Classic in this dorm room or not... I'll have to see about it.

Sometimes I really wish you could buy DVD box sets of a particular team's season.


103 posted on 11/16/2006 8:49:19 PM PST by Terpfen ("Conservatives" who sat at home cost us the War on Terror, SCOTUS, and economic success.)
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To: All

34 Hours...
Weather in Columbus tomorrow? 47°/33° partly cloudy, perfect football weather...

Michigan by 4. 23-19....


104 posted on 11/17/2006 2:52:42 AM PST by dakine
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Placemark.


105 posted on 11/17/2006 3:22:55 AM PST by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: catholicfreeper

Yes that block was awesome especially since they showed it 20 more times throughout the game.
He knocked down both guys.

"Coach, I got my clock cleaned so bad that I knocked down the guy behind me to."

ROFLMAO
That was hilarious last night.


106 posted on 11/17/2006 5:42:08 AM PST by ziggy_dlo (THE LAND OF THE FREE, FOUGHT FOR BY THE BRAVE!!!)
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To: PRND21

The lead in to today's front page of the Contra Costa Times (Berkeley's backyard) Sports section:

"USC: EVERYTHING CAL ISN'T BUT WISHES IT WAS... another season to remember, another righteous victory coming... It's tradition. It's an entitlement. It's a birthright. And people hate USC for it. Especially people from Berkeley"

Isn't it great to be hated?


107 posted on 11/17/2006 8:44:07 AM PST by rockthecasbah (John F. Kerry supports partial birth apologies.)
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To: rogue yam
Beat the Commies!!!!!!


108 posted on 11/17/2006 8:54:51 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: dfwgator; MikefromOhio

Yes! Go Cal!

Too bad that every top ten team will have to have 2, maybe 3 losses, before they'll let one-loss Florida sniff the National Championship game. UF came a knat's ass from beating Auburn at Auburn, but lost in great part because of a horrible call.

The Mighty Gators always seem to find a way to get the most points of any team in the stadium on that particular day, but they don't really do "style" scoring, which used to be frowned upon as "running up the score."


109 posted on 11/17/2006 9:05:18 AM PST by subterfuge (Tolerance has become the greatest virtue, and hypocrisy the worst character defect.)
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To: MikefromOhio
I think that if Florida is also unbeaten in it's final games, they won't get jumped by ND....

Unfortunately I do. Plus, thanks to the pollsters and the computers, even if Ohio State loses they'll get a rematch for the NC. As I stated earlier, all top 10 teams will have to have at least 2 losses for UF to get in the big game. Whatev.

110 posted on 11/17/2006 9:08:43 AM PST by subterfuge (Tolerance has become the greatest virtue, and hypocrisy the worst character defect.)
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To: MikefromOhio
I'm sure you've seen this:

Bo Schembechler passes away

As if this game couldn't get any bigger...

111 posted on 11/17/2006 9:34:43 AM PST by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: MikefromOhio

Friend of ours is a huge OSU fan....he got tickets from an old alum for $300. Told my husband they're going for $5,000 now.


112 posted on 11/17/2006 9:44:11 AM PST by AUJenn
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To: rockthecasbah
And people hate USC for it. Especially people from Berkeley"

Beat the Hippies!

113 posted on 11/17/2006 10:26:51 AM PST by PRND21
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To: PRND21

"Beat the Hippies!"

Exactly...


114 posted on 11/17/2006 10:41:00 AM PST by rockthecasbah (John F. Kerry supports partial birth apologies.)
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); aft_lizard; Archie Bunker on steroids; Auntbee; Bad~Rodeo; Bat_Chemist; ...

Yes I have seen the story about the passing of Bo Schembechler.

I just wanted to ping the list for anyone who might not have seen it and also to express my condolences to the Schembechler family as well as the Michigan football family.

Thoughts and prayers to them.


115 posted on 11/17/2006 12:58:25 PM PST by MikefromOhio (Fear the SWEATERVEST!!!!)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

FINALLY WE AGREE!!!


116 posted on 11/17/2006 1:03:01 PM PST by Michael.SF. (Note: Sell Diebold Stock.................NOW!!)
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To: MikefromOhio; All
Like to toss out something for discussion re the Rutgers/BCS poll...OK, in everything I've read this week, there appears to be a fairly uniform consensus on the following points:

1. Rutgers is being penalized to some extent for what is viewed as a weak Strength of Schedule.
2. The Big East doesn't have the Power rankings of the SEC, Big Ten, or Pac10.
3. The computer polls favor Rutgers, whereas the human voting polls, which account for 2/3 of the BCS formula, don't.

Yet, 3 of the top 10 in the BCS are Big East schools. Empirically, this makes NO sense, indeed it is near impossible if you accept the premises of 1-3 above.

So, what gives?

117 posted on 11/17/2006 1:16:55 PM PST by ken5050
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To: MikefromOhio

Hypothetical question. If Ohio State and Michigan play to a tie tomorrow who should be number 1?


118 posted on 11/17/2006 3:15:29 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: subterfuge
Too bad that every top ten team will have to have 2, maybe 3 losses, before they'll let one-loss Florida sniff the National Championship game.

Time will tell. I'm gonna be torn if it comes down to the Buckeyes and the Gators, though. It hasn't been a problem for me so far, but this year, they are both good teams with good coaches.

119 posted on 11/17/2006 5:10:37 PM PST by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: ken5050
Yet, 3 of the top 10 in the BCS are Big East schools. Empirically, this makes NO sense, indeed it is near impossible if you accept the premises of 1-3 above.

So, what gives?


There is a misconception that the term "computer poll" implies no human involvement. This ignores the fact one group of humans create a set of data that the computer is instructed by humans to calculate in a specific manner. The result is a given output.

The "human polls" are a different set of data created by another group of humans prompting a different output.
120 posted on 11/17/2006 8:21:52 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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