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We need an organic movement to DRAFT DAN for speaker - let's do it !!!
1 posted on 11/11/2006 7:07:46 AM PST by 11th_VA
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To: 11th_VA
We could try. The Speaker does make committee assignments and at the least, we'd like to see the Blue Dogs where they can do the most good. We have nothing to lose and everything to gain by backing Dan Boren for House Speaker.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

2 posted on 11/11/2006 7:13:21 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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This has happened before in American history. After the election of 1856, the two new parties, the Republicans and the American Party (Know Nothings) together formed a majority and elected an American Party Speaker.

On the state level, about 10 years ago, when the GOP was approaching a majority status, they formed a coalition with the more conservative Democrats in the legislature. I am sure similar things happened in other states.
3 posted on 11/11/2006 7:14:56 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (I went down in 1964 for Barry Goldwater with all flags flying! This is just a blip!)
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To: 11th_VA

Nope, sorry.

I want the Pelosi wing to run roughshod over the moderates and conservatives. As a matter of fact, I'd like to see the new GOP minority do whatever it can to assist her.

This is the only way the country will see the stark choice between the two parties.


4 posted on 11/11/2006 7:16:21 AM PST by cicero's_son
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That would take some bold 'Blue Dogs' to do that.

They might even be ejected from the Party!

But it sure is worth the try!

If it succeeded the MSM would go ballistic!

5 posted on 11/11/2006 7:17:53 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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Wouldn't it be great if Pelosi lost after all? Go Dan Go!
7 posted on 11/11/2006 7:22:06 AM PST by Ditter
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Only on a "secret" ballot would he have a chance. San Fran Nan has too many outstanding chits ready to be called in.


12 posted on 11/11/2006 7:50:22 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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Well .. I feel for Dan .. but trying to tear the speakership from the grip of Pelosi will be his undoing.

You see, as Rush described in detail yesterday, what happens in the first meeting with the "newbies" and Pelosi is this: She will tell them - if you want to be here longer than 2 years, you will vote with the leadership. If you don't, you will be out of here in 2 years. If you do, you will receive dollars and support for your next election.

However, I don't think Pelosi realizes that one of the dems who got thrown over - Lieberman - successfully won re-election. I'm wondering 2 things: will the "blue dogs" band together and form their own group, or will they just ride along and take their chances by voting how their districts expect them to ..??


14 posted on 11/11/2006 7:53:35 AM PST by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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Nay... I rather see Pelosi... that way they can go ahead and do the damage. Making '08 better chance for the Repbus.
I rather see America wake up and see what they put into the office.. Even MSM can't totally cover up for them.


18 posted on 11/11/2006 8:10:16 AM PST by Strutt9
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I like it! Precisely what do we need to do to make it happen?


19 posted on 11/11/2006 8:11:21 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: 11th_VA

No chance of happening by itself. There is no way to defeat Pelosi as Speaker in an outright power play. Too many people are beholding to her and she comes from a tough political background. This idea could get some traction by having a power play to force some concessions. Thats the best that can be done.

We cannot afford to have Alcee Hastings as head of the Intelligence Commitee. Hastings was impeached as a judge. we can't afford him during the WOT to such a critical role involving keeping our secret. Jane Harman is a far better alternative. The play should be to get her to have the chairmenship and put in some moderates/conservatives in other leadership posts. If not, then vote her out as speaker and then vote for Boren.

Modest goals might work, an outright removal - no way. While there is this supposed influx of more conservative democrats, there is not enough votes to have a total power play. They might listen to reason if the goal is modest such as not having Hastings as Intelligence chairman. We at least start off with 2 democrats - Boren & Hastings. This also has the possibility that it gives the moderates a chance to flex their muscles immediately without a total threat. It just might work.

For anything to happen it must happen soon.



21 posted on 11/11/2006 8:12:22 AM PST by TakeChargeBob
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To: 11th_VA

Sorry folks, but it really is all about politics.

They won. We lost.

The best thing for the country would be to show them for who they really are. I'll be damned if I'm going to provide the fig leaf that allows the Congressional Democrats to pretend to be normal, rational, moderate, patriotic Americans.

They said they'd raise taxes? Go for it.
They said they'd redeploy troops to Okinawa. Now's their chance.
They wanted impeachent hearings? The door is open.

Elections have consequences. There will be a raft of dire consequences after this one, I am sure. But the country will survive. And so will the Republican party and the conservative movement.

The only good news is that two years from now, there will be another election. By the time that one comes around, I hope everyone who voted "D" in anger, disgust, disappointment, or fatigue will see just how foolish it was to put these people back into power.


23 posted on 11/11/2006 8:19:27 AM PST by cicero's_son
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