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The Prayer Room: Praying for America, FR, and all who need it
Various | 11/8/06 | Knitting a Conundrum

Posted on 11/09/2006 6:49:58 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum

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To: BureaucratusMaximus

Prayers for you all.


821 posted on 12/21/2006 2:02:41 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: hsmomx3

Prayers. What a tough situation.

Soften our hearts, O Lord, when in our sin and pride we refuse to accept the touch of your healing and help. Show us, in spite of all this, the way you would have us walk. Heal us in our miseries, and let the smoldering darkness within be purged by your light.

Amen.


822 posted on 12/21/2006 2:05:27 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: bperiwinkle7

I'm glad you posted it here. I've printed it and put it on the refrigerator.


823 posted on 12/21/2006 2:51:57 PM PST by syriacus (30,000 US deaths in Korea in 2 1/2 years under Truman (Jul, 1950 - Dec, 1952))
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To: BureaucratusMaximus
Here ya go!

Burning a Candle for BuMax & Wife

Light An FR Prayer Room Candle

824 posted on 12/21/2006 3:07:59 PM PST by Rte66
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To: hsmomx3

You're very welcome. Al-Anon has some great literature (look online) that helps in situations like this. Your lives are affected whether he is living there or not, and whether drinking or not.

The 12 Steps are a fabulous way of life for just about everybody. /preaching off

Best wishes to you this Christmas season - I did Greek holiday foods one year and they were great - now I do them for Easter. Please try to have a Merry Christmas for yourselves!


825 posted on 12/21/2006 3:14:10 PM PST by Rte66
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To: hsmomx3
Living with an alcoholic makes you sick too and even if he is out of your life to stay there are things that you need to deal with for yourself and your family. You might not be ready for it but it is a lot cheaper than a counselor and works better IMHO. There are some bad groups, in my case I only had one choice but it turned out to be a Godsend.

One of the sayings in Al-anon and applies to this advice, "Take what you need and leave the rest".

826 posted on 12/21/2006 3:23:36 PM PST by tiki
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To: BureaucratusMaximus

Sending prayers your way.

I know the feeling. Our kids are real close in age and it was really hard for me. Our kids were born in 1990, 1992, 1993, and 1995.


827 posted on 12/21/2006 3:33:52 PM PST by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '08--Go BIG BEN!!!)
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To: Rte66

Thanks for the info.

Greek pastries are good as long as we don't eat them all at one sitting. My mom makes those powdered sugar cookies and they are the best. I swear I could eat them all at one time.


828 posted on 12/21/2006 3:34:58 PM PST by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '08--Go BIG BEN!!!)
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To: tiki

Fortunately, my kids principal who is also one of our pastors, had a father who was an alcoholic and is very familiar with it all. He has been a big help.

IN the beginnning, it was very odd because one time he was so drunk in the middle of the morning and demanded that I go out and buy him more. I said no, and he became quite demanding. The kids were there as well. Because I did not know how to deal with it, I went out and bought the stuff.

Awhile later, he would talk poorly about his father and then he broke down and sobbed for a good 15 minutes and admitted what a horrible person he (meaning my husband) was.

A few other times when he was drunk, he would break down to my son and I and told us he made a mess of things, did not know how to end it with other woman because he did not want to hurt her. When we told him of this he totally denied it.

I read not too long ago that alcohol can act as a sort of truth serum. Interesting, if even a little true.


829 posted on 12/21/2006 3:38:36 PM PST by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '08--Go BIG BEN!!!)
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To: hsmomx3

For some people, alcohol releases their inhibitions and they talk more freely than normal.

For others, at a farther stage in their drinking career, drinking can lead to blackouts, where they may seem to others to be functioning, but they're not and they have no memory of anything said or done during that time.

Since we never can tell which is which, a good rule is to pay no attention whatsoever to anything a drunk person says.


830 posted on 12/21/2006 3:47:39 PM PST by Rte66
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To: bperiwinkle7

Beautiful thoughts as we approach the Birthday of the Lamb of God.


831 posted on 12/21/2006 6:14:23 PM PST by Palladin (Merry Christmas to the troops, and God bless every one of them!)
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To: hsmomx3
The thing about alcoholics is that they are very manipulating, I don't even think they know they are doing it. I know I could never win an argument with mine and I can't win an argument with my brother who is one. They're also always full of excuses for everything they do and they usually blame it on someone else.

Honestly, nothing will change until he stops drinking and even then you would need to change because the whole situation changes.

I would still suggest that even if you don't go to al-anon, you get the daily book. You will get so much insight and understanding, into yourself and into the disease of alcoholism. It is insidious and it affects every facet of your life even when they go through sober periods.

As I said before, I think al-anon saved my life and also my marriage and later my sanity when my son was an active alcoholic. In fact, it was my experience with al-anon that helped me guide my dil through their difficulties. My son has been sober for 8 yrs and my husband 22 and we are going on 36 yrs of marriage. The first 14 yrs gave me an education with the tuition paid in blood, sweat and tears but the last 22 have been wonderful.

I know you are in a hard place and I don't envy you at all because I've been there but know that your life will improve and that you will be stronger for it. Try to find what happiness is there for the taking, the smiles of your children, the support of your friends and take "one day at a time" . Hold on to every good moment and savor it and try not to dwell on the pain and disappointment and only deal with it when you need to. I wish you all the luck in the world and will keep you and your children and your husband in my prayers.

832 posted on 12/21/2006 7:58:36 PM PST by tiki
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To: tiki

Another thing we have noticed is that he does not remember things. ANd in the last few months, he will tell the kids that he will be here at 1PM to pick them up, and he does not show up until two hours later!!!

Being on time is one of my peeves but I have noticed the mood swings and the forgetfulness. Not sure if it is just alcohol or a combo of that and drugs.


833 posted on 12/21/2006 8:22:11 PM PST by hsmomx3 (Steelers in '08--Go BIG BEN!!!)
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To: hsmomx3

Believe it or not, someday "he" will not be a topic of conversation for you!

Try a couple of things - start writing a gratitude list. Put on it everything you can think of, from being alive to having a roof over your head, to having food on the table (and a good Greek marinade recipe), to clothes on your back and some pennies in your purse.

Just keep going and add to it throughout the day or anytime something comes to mind. You'll see that it will multiply as you go along.

2nd, have a touchstone - mine is the 23rd Psalm. Anything you can say to yourself automatically and feel calm.

3rd, keep your shoes under your bed. That way, you have to get down on your knees to get them to put them on for the day ahead. While there, think about the first two items. And listen to the still, small voice.


834 posted on 12/21/2006 8:36:25 PM PST by Rte66
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; Hydroshock; pollywog; hosepipe; Pegita; Tribune7; Cedar; syriacus; ...

Gal 5:1 For freedom Christ has set us free.......
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Gal 5:13 For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.
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Gal 5:16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh.
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Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
Gal 5:23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.
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2Pe 1:5 For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with virtue, and virtue with knowledge,
2Pe 1:6 and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness,
2Pe 1:7 and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love.
2Pe 1:8 For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they keep you from being ineffective or unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Oh Father, I hear your instruction.

Your Divine Power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through the knowledge of Him who called us to His own glory and goodness.....

We must grow up into the full measure and stature of Christ, not children anymore tossed by every wind of doctrine, unable to handle the meat of the Word.

Lord, I need your forgiveness for making excuses, and falling short of what you have empowered me to be.
I determine again to walk by the Spirit.
I know I have the full aid of Heaven.
You are Generous Oh Lord. So Kind and Merciful.
I ask to bear in my life that fruit of the Spirit of self-control.
I thank you for treating me like a Son.
I love you Lord.
You are Jehovah, my Shepherd.


I know that my Redeemer lives,
And ever prays for me;
A token of His love He gives,
A pledge of liberty.

I find him lifting up my head,
He brings salvation near,
His presence makes me free indeed,
And He will soon appear.

He wills that I should holy be,
What can withstand His will?
The counsel of His grace in me
He surely shall fulfill.

Jesus, I hang upon Thy Word;
I steadfastly believe
Thou wilt return and claim me, Lord
And to Thyself receive,
--Charles Wesley

http://www.cyberhymnal.org/htm/s/o/l/soltsher.htm

Speak, O Lord, Thy servant heareth,
To Thy Word I now give heed;
Life and spirit Thy Word beareth,
All Thy Word is true indeed.
Death’s dread pow’r in me is rife;
Jesus, may Thy Word of Life
Fill my soul with love’s strong fervor
That I cling to Thee forever.

Oh, what blessing to be near Thee
And to hearken to Thy voice;
May I ever love and fear Thee
That Thy Word may be my choice!
Oft were hardened sinners, Lord,
Struck with terror by Thy Word;
But to him who for sin grieveth
Comfort sweet and hope it giveth.

Lord, Thy words are waters living
Where I quench my thirsty need;
Lord, Thy words are bread life-giving,
On Thy words my soul doth feed.
Lord, Thy words shall be my light
Through death’s vale and dreary night;
Yea, they are my sword prevailing
And my cup of joy unfailing.

Precious Jesus, I beseech Thee,
May Thy words take root in me;
May this gift from Heav’n enrich me
So that I bear fruit for Thee!
Take them never from my heart
Till I see Thee as Thou art,
When in heav’nly bliss and glory
I shall greet Thee and adore Thee.



835 posted on 12/21/2006 8:44:28 PM PST by bperiwinkle7 ( In the beginning was the WORD,,,,,,,,,,,,,,)
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To: Hydroshock; pollywog; hosepipe; Pegita; Tribune7; Cedar; syriacus; trussell; dandelion; alnick; ...

O Child of Promise


O Child of promise,
given to us
by the word of the father,
whose coming
we contemplate with joy, perhaps,
with trepidation, perhaps,
Immanuel,
God with us,
you who leaving the father
to make yourself nothing,
a servant
obedient even unto death,
you whom we call
wonderful,
counsellor,
God almighty,
Prince of peace,
teach us to realize
the wonder of your incarnation
as we contemplate
what it means
to have God with us,
to walk with us,
weep with us,
die for us,
save us.

Amen.


836 posted on 12/21/2006 10:01:15 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Amen. Christ Most Beautiful. Amen.


837 posted on 12/22/2006 1:45:29 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: bperiwinkle7

Thank you. Mighty Christmas!


838 posted on 12/22/2006 1:47:45 AM PST by .30Carbine
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

BTTT


839 posted on 12/22/2006 2:56:19 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: bperiwinkle7

BTTT


840 posted on 12/22/2006 2:56:35 AM PST by E.G.C.
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