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Good luck, Taiwan. You'll need it.
11/8/2006 | Neville72

Posted on 11/08/2006 2:32:41 PM PST by Neville72

President Bush should have the leaders of Taiwan on the phone today informing them that if China decides to move on them, they're on their own. Good luck, it was nice knowin' ya.

Before today I believed a majority of Americans had the intestinal fortitude to see the fight for a future free from Islamic fascism through to the end. I believed we had learned from the past that we won't lose on the battlefield, we'll only lose the fight at home and we, enough of us anyway, surely won't let that happen again.

That was utterly pollyanish and wishful thinking. Our inevitable redeployment(i.e.retreat) from Iraq will send shockwaves around the world. The Muzzies will be dancing in the streets(umm, they already are) and congratulating Osama for his prescience in concluding that America has no stomach for a long fight and our allies or potential ones will always know that America is a reliable partner only if the work is quick and painless.

Ironically, I just finished reading Flags of Our Fathers which recounts the lives and actions of the six Americans who raised the flag on Mt. Suribachi and their brethern Marines who weathered the toughest 30 days of fighting in modern American warfare---7,000 dead and 26,000 casualties. And that came at the end of 4 years that saw 300,000 deaths and almost 700,000 wounded. Yet those Americans, that America, took body blow after body blow, kept getting off the mat and defeated not one but two existential threats to our way of life.

As I have posted before, I feared that that America is merely a distant memory and doesn't exist anymore--at least in sufficient quantity to make a difference. That fear was played out last night in umambiguous terms. We just gave the Jihadists the green light to come after us at their leisure. We'll bluster, threaten and bellow and talk a good game but when the going gets tough or long, we'll fold our tents and go home.

I fear for my children and their children today.

I fear for my country.


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To: Neville72

Exactly my thoughts and what I have been telling everyone I've talked to today, although not as well as you just did.


41 posted on 11/08/2006 3:42:05 PM PST by Grateful One
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To: CAP811
As a student of history, I have sometimes wondered what will remain of our civilization a thousand years from now. Best guess, if we are speaking arabic, is the foundations of some really big buildings.
42 posted on 11/08/2006 3:44:08 PM PST by bradthebuilder (War is peace; Ignorance is strength; Freedom is slavery)
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To: Neville72
Enjoy the show.


I won'nt be going to see the show...if I am able to swing it I will be outside protesting their existence(their venue will be less than a quarter mile from Oregons most polluted river)...it already stinks from our NBA team the Jailblazers.
43 posted on 11/08/2006 3:57:23 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (Diplomacy doesn't work when seagulls rain on your parade. A shotgun and umbrella does.)
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To: bradthebuilder
As a student of history, I have sometimes wondered what will remain of our civilization a thousand years from now. Best guess, if we are speaking Arabic, is the foundations of some really big buildings

As a student of history I have learned to hate history. I'm afraid we have forgotten history and as it's been said we are doomed to repeat it.

44 posted on 11/08/2006 3:58:18 PM PST by CAP811 (One man can change the world with a bullet in the right place)
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To: CAP811

Most people I know hate history. Thats why, sure enough, we will be doomed to repeat it. The Old Testament is full of examples where if only Israel had kept to the straight and narrow....

BTW, nice tagline


45 posted on 11/08/2006 4:02:48 PM PST by bradthebuilder (War is peace; Ignorance is strength; Freedom is slavery)
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To: Neville72

Might as well call Maliki in Iraq too. There is apparently no stomach in the U.S. to defend ourselves let alone our allies. Hope nobody needs our help in the near future since there isn't much help to offer them.


46 posted on 11/08/2006 4:14:18 PM PST by bpjam (Vote. Vote Now. Drag your neighbors along.)
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To: bradthebuilder

BINGO! If the islamofascists are delusional enough, this election could lead to the first nuke war of the 21st century. Maybe having Israel go nuclear is the lesson that the world needs to see past petty partisan political fights.


47 posted on 11/08/2006 4:24:50 PM PST by darth
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To: COEXERJ145
Let's just all kill ourselves so we don't have to worry about it.

Thats the first bit of advice that I have read that makes any sense...........

48 posted on 11/08/2006 6:06:09 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I was just thirteen, you might say I was a musical proverbial knee-high...)
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To: Neville72

Frankly, the Taiwanese would have been on their own even if the Republicans kept the House.
A lot of Republican congressmen and senators prostitute themselves to corporations who do business with Red China.


49 posted on 11/08/2006 7:47:41 PM PST by Commander8 (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16)
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To: CAP811

They can and do practice their religion and carry out their sub-human campaign of death in any and all languages.

This is not a problem of a region, a people, or a country or countries. It is a transnational cult of death the transcends any horror mankind has ever dared to imagine.

Satan is clearly in the middle of this. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the antidote and we must be willing to give our lives spreading it.


50 posted on 11/08/2006 8:14:46 PM PST by Silly (.)
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To: bradthebuilder

Or it will be like the Moors, who did manage to build a pretty amazing civilization in Spain between 800 and 1400 AD. You have to remember the Moors built in places like Alhambra, Grenada, etc. beautiful cities with modern running water systems and modern agricultural irrigation systems, not to mention numerous scholarly libraries.


51 posted on 11/08/2006 8:32:34 PM PST by RayChuang88
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I hadn't thought of Spain. I was thinking more of the Byzantine Greek lands in modern day Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, etc. The high point islamic culture may have been based in a large part on the Greek culture the arabian nomads conquered. Much like various races conquered China, installed themselves as emperors, and eventually became Chinese.
52 posted on 11/09/2006 6:03:54 AM PST by bradthebuilder (War is peace; Ignorance is strength; Freedom is slavery)
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We do know that a lot of old Greek and Roman texts ended up in the hands of the early Muslims almost by default, thanks to the fact the Arabian peninsula was essentially the trading crossroads for Eurasia and the east coast of Africa. As such, those early probably got the texts as trade for goods from Asia (silk, spices, etc.).


53 posted on 11/09/2006 7:02:06 AM PST by RayChuang88
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