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Being abandoned by cut and run Republicans/conservatives
Nov. 8, 2006 | self

Posted on 11/07/2006 10:43:24 PM PST by jmaroneps37

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To: FlingWingFlyer

I was remembering when Peter Jennings mumbled that famous remark about the Republican takeover in 1994. Such sentiments won't be spoken today as the mediots agree with democrat control.


21 posted on 11/07/2006 11:00:11 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze
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To: Sgt_Schultze

Don't give up hope. Two years is a long while and things happen.


22 posted on 11/07/2006 11:00:47 PM PST by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: jmaroneps37

Truth be told, I think conservatism in the US is pretty much dead...well, maybe not dead, but leaderless and in turmoil. Tomorrow, the 2008 presidential race begins in earnest, and there are no bona fide conservatives who stand a chance of winning the GOP nomination. We can talk about how the backstabbing "true believers" abandoned the GOP, but the truth is the conservative movement in this country is lifeless and exhausted. And, I blame the Republican congress for killing conservatism -- for having the majority for the past 6 years and not doing anything with it, and also Pres. Bush, who while being a very decent man, is not an ideological conservative and hasn't led as one. We need new leadership, a new vision, and a renewed agenda.


23 posted on 11/07/2006 11:01:34 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: NapkinUser

LOL, look you can't expect folks who have convinced themselves that Bush can't do anything wrong, that this could possibly be partly his and the House and the Senate leadership's fault.

There's enough blame to go around. Lord knows I couldn't find the spark of drive to go out and fight for this team. Every time I voiced a concern over an issue, I was the lepper who came to dinner. That just didn't say to me, "Go out there and fight for me...", even if I think you're an idiot.

Well, I voted. That was more than some of them deserved.


24 posted on 11/07/2006 11:01:38 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: DoughtyOne

For years Congress spent like Democrats and, given the chance of choosing between a Democrat and a Democrat the poeple chose Democrats. I'm going to bed now, maybe by the time I wake up some miracle will have occurred and we will still control the Senate. If not then the only hope for the Republicans is to learn how to be obstructionist like the Dems were when they were the minority. Trying to get along has always cost them yet they never seem to learn. My state (GA) bucked the trend, the Repubs clobbered the Dems in every major race so we did our part.


25 posted on 11/07/2006 11:02:23 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Sgt_Schultze

You've got that right. I saw on Drudge, "Here Come The Democrats!" At least someone besides the Islamofascists is happy tonight .


26 posted on 11/07/2006 11:02:35 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (November 7, 2006. When America Spewed Her Hatred of Good People.)
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To: Dave S
And there are many on this forum who think it's the fault of those of us who didn't vote for more-of-the-same, get-myself-reelected, "moderate" "Republicans" in the primaries.

I think the left sees the election of Republipussycans as blood in the water. It's just another shift to the left, albeit a slower death.

27 posted on 11/07/2006 11:03:23 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: Dave S

We even had to fight with our own people to stop the reinstatement of the Assault Weapons Ban..Why was that?

Why did we have to rassle with republicans to get immigration reform?

Did we give conservatives anything to vote FOR?


28 posted on 11/07/2006 11:05:01 PM PST by Armedanddangerous (Master of Sinanju(Emeritus))
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To: jmaroneps37

Two things killed us: 1. Iraq, or more precisely, the fact that we haven't won in Iraq (or, alternatively, that we didn't declare victory and leave). 2. The price of a gallon of gasoline (hence the "bad economy" spin of the DNC and the MSM).


29 posted on 11/07/2006 11:05:09 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: lonestar67
I would go far as to say that the Cut and Run Republicans along with the Democrats are traitors of this country.
30 posted on 11/07/2006 11:05:15 PM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

You have no idea how many times I've tried to drive that point home on this forum.

Given the opportunity to vote for a full-blown Democrat or a Republican pretender, why would any Democrat vote for the pretender?

Sadly, this concept hasn't been well recieved, or for that matter even comprehended by outward appearances.


31 posted on 11/07/2006 11:07:20 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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To: george76

The cartoon says it all. Too bad the RNC didn't find a way to say everything that's on the paper (too busy reading Webb's dirty books).


32 posted on 11/07/2006 11:07:21 PM PST by pawdoggie
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To: jmaroneps37

Something in the basic approach has to change. The Bush idea of trying to treat dems like the other branch of the family while they clearly treat us as the enemy is obviously not any sort of a formula for success.


33 posted on 11/07/2006 11:08:01 PM PST by tomzz
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To: msnimje
In Reagan's first term, the Democrats won 27+ seats in the 1982 first year election and picked up 1+ in the Senate, which still remained in Republican hands until 1986. In 1986, the Democrats gained 5+ in the House (they kept their majority since 1954) and won back the Senate with a pickup of 8+ seats - this was in Reagan's second term. This year, the Democrats picked up 19+ House seats and +5 Senate seats. So the old mid-term rule seems to be operative again.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

34 posted on 11/07/2006 11:09:10 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: DoughtyOne
LOL, look you can't expect folks who have convinced themselves that Bush can't do anything wrong, that this could possibly be partly his and the House and the Senate leadership's fault.

Notice how they didn't responded to what I wrote. Wonder why....

35 posted on 11/07/2006 11:09:37 PM PST by NapkinUser (Why isn't there a 'virtual fence' around the White House?)
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To: My2Cents

My2Cents wrote: "Truth be told, I think conservatism in the US is pretty much dead...well, maybe not dead, but leaderless and in turmoil."

I hope that's not true, but I fear you are correct. Our fearless Republican leaders have spent the last 6 years running away from the conservatives who elected them. Don't they realize they cannot out pander the Dems? No, we are a nation of far too many children who look to government as the solution to every ill. I am 100% certain they are wrong (and I am 100% certain it will lead to no good in the long term), but like other FReepers, I am a distinct minority. The Republicans didn't deserve our votes (even though I voted for them), but to hand this nation over to the Democrats is amazingly foolish. Yet, that's what the American people just did.


36 posted on 11/07/2006 11:10:03 PM PST by CitizenUSA
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To: Dave S

Wait until you see how spending like drunken sailors can be. You will shortly with Pelosi. Who gave you the tax cuts? Republicans. Who is going to take it way donks. Borders, what bordes Pelosi and her ilk will say. Blaming the GOP about everything is what cost us this election period. You can thank Michelle Malkin, Rich Lowery, Bill Kristol and idiots like that for constantly harping on the GOP, thus some voters felt the donks would be better. It is going to be a nightmare now.


37 posted on 11/07/2006 11:10:42 PM PST by jrooney ( Hold your cards close.)
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To: jmaroneps37
The conservatives didn't abandon the GOP, the GOP abandoned the conservatives. We have been repeatedly kicked to the curb so that the tent could be broadened and the GOP leadership could be loved by the "beautiful people".Let's not fool ourselves. If we become "Party uber Alles" robots then we are as doomed as we would be if we voted Dem. I for one was not an enthusiastic Bush supporter in this election cycle. I have been very troubled by four specific things:

1) We have been mucking around in Iraq longer than it took us to win WWII. The politically correct approach to winning a war will not work. I can sum up the Iraq war - Muqtada al-Sadr! The fact that he and his Mahdi Army are roaming the streets speaks to the policy failure in Iraq. Bad guys need to be killed, not counseled. Our military has been brilliant and displaced the Saddam regime, but we have not won the war. Iran and Syria openly supply and support the insurgents and we have done nothing to make those two regimes accountable for American deaths.

2) Spending and government growth are way out of control. So we got a token tax cut. If a small one was good, a big one would have been better. Tax cuts were limited by the uncontrolled spending. If government growth and spending would have been properly managed even larger tax cuts would have been possible. I for one and not going to be thankful that the government is only taking 50% of my income.

3) Our country and certain western states have been invaded and colonized by Mexico and the president has turned a deaf ear to it in hopes of getting the (illegal?) Hispanic vote. Illegal immigration alone is enough reason to have fired anyone/everyone! The western states are bankrupt, health care has collapsed, law enforcement is under siege, and security is a nightmare!

4) Polls over principle governing. The party has consistently worked against strong conservatives in the interest of RINO's and "moderates". Can anyone explain the insane support of Arlen Spectre and a host of conservatives that the GOP leadership has crapped on.

This election was not a rejection of conservative principles, it was firing an incompetent work force.

38 posted on 11/07/2006 11:12:09 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: jmaroneps37

More like, being abandoned by factions of the Republican party that will give any quarter to otherwise loyal conservatives on some very deeply held and heartfelt issues.

When a large block of voters tells you that you should, for example, "control the border or else" you had best believe them.

I voted for a democrat candidate for the second time in my life. The first time was for the late Bob Casey many years ago.


39 posted on 11/07/2006 11:12:11 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: FlyVet

FlyVet wrote: "And there are many on this forum who think it's the fault of those of us who didn't vote for more-of-the-same, get-myself-reelected, "moderate" "Republicans" in the primaries."

If there is ANYTHING positive about tonight it's Chaffee and DeWine goin' down in flames. Shoot, I would have voted for them simply to try and preserve adults in charge of Washington, but if we are going to lose, better to lose some RINOs in the process.


40 posted on 11/07/2006 11:12:47 PM PST by CitizenUSA
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