and - outside of this church - we're all supposed to care ... because ???? this is a most outrageous attack against Christianity by the SP's - basically the liberals think that Christians are stupid bigots and that by exposing this 9th tier evangelical leader any + all belivers will crawl under a rock until after the election. The contempt displayed by liberals in the past couple days, explaining why this will be so and their joy in going over it again & agin is equivalent to the liberals' contempt for the military recently put on display by Hanoi John Carry.
Piss off, you Pharisee.
1.) Please stay faithful to God through service and giving.
Once a greedy TV huckster, always a greedy TV huckster. Gotta pay the mortgage on the "parsonage" I guess.
-ccm
It will be interesting to watch the lying-religious left on this. Yes, he committed sin and was caught, but unlike the long list of left-leaning and some right leaning politicians...his letter was a real apology and an example of how you take ALL the blame for yourself and not re-direct it like the John Kerrys of the world show us.
I would much rather have posted this reply on the religion thread, but since it started here, I will post it here and hope for the best.
Ted Haggard's story is a reminder that all of us who claim Christ's salvation, need to be accountable to other Christians in whom we can place our trust.
Sin is a solitary act. Even though it may involve others, the Christian who falls into sin does it with stealth and the deception of those around him who know him and love him.
His letter even seems to indicate that he probably went through the accountability process, and somewhere, because of over-confidence or simply because he didn't want to continue with it, dropped out of it.
It doesn't make any difference what denomination you are, you need an accountability partner(s) who is not your husband or wife.
For those who may feel morally superior, don't forget that we are all human, and subject to failure.
Very sad. Honestly, we are all humans and sin. As a sister in Christ I can't look down upon this man, but pray that God will restore his soul and free him from the sin that has is holding him captive. I feel horrible for his family and his wife's letter to the church was very moving. I can't imagine what that family is going through. God bless them all.
My pastor led our congregation in prayer for the healing of New Life Church, and for the Haggard family, and all affected by this.
From Ted's letter: "... I have been appropriately and lovingly removed from ministry. Our church's overseers have required me to submit to the oversight of Dr. James Dobson, Pastor Jack Hayford, and Pastor Tommy Barnett. Those men will perform a thorough analysis of my mental, spiritual, emotional, and physical life. They will guide me through a program with the goal of healing and restoration for my life, my marriage, and my family."
The leadership of New Life has set a good course. I pray the church and the Haggards get all the help and love they need and that this deep wound in the body of Christ will be healed as only God can make it heal.
Revelation 21:5 "And He that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new."
Brother Haggard,
Even though I'm a thousand miles away, I too was hurt by your actions brother Haggard. The body of Christ is one, throughout the entire world.
Your biblical act of humility and repentance has helped to heal the bodies pain.
I have forgiven you, and also your accuser. I will hold him up to the Lord in prayer that he will feel the real power of Christ in his life through this experience.
I will also pray for you and your family that you will be healed and restored to the fullness of life that God has intended you to have.
Lovingly,
Your brother in Christ
Thank you, Quiet, for providing the link to the letters. Sounds like real believers to me.
That poor woman!
The wife wrote that before the true weight of hubby's behavior hit her. Let's see what hasn't been mentioned. How about: Male prostitue + methamphetamines +Gay husband trysts...sounds like reason enough for HIV testing to me.