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Epidural Nation: 'Guys' created the problem.
Me ^ | 28 Oct 2006 | GoBucks

Posted on 10/27/2006 11:31:40 AM PDT by gobucks

Recently, my wife gave birth to our daughter. We used the Bradley Method: natural childbirth, no meds, no epidural, no pitocin. In a way, childbirth is like flying....

On a recent thread, I gave a brief birth story, designed to encourage other parents considering Bradley. But here, my aim is simple: a few words to convict the hearts of cowardly men who are unwilling to help their wives, and instead, weakly lean on medications to get them through the 'trauma' of childbirth. Yes, guys, exclusively, are the source of the epidural problem.

One could argue on and on that a woman is the one who has to bear the pain, the agony, of the contractions. That for men to even discuss this subject is silly at best, arrogantly patriarchal and insensitive in the worse direction.

But hear me: for a man to back down from the reality of the childbirth he initated is folly. Epidurals, pain meds, drugs, laughing gas ... whatever. Most of these 'interventions' are designed to perfectly numb the transformative experience childbirth is supposed to be. On the surface, of course, the doctors and hospitals want to minimize the 'pain' of childbirth - which they think will maximize the 'joy'.

But the truth is plainer. While the pain is muted, yes, the joy is muted far more. True, the child to mother bonding experience doesn't depend too much upon how many meds are involved.

But, Natural childbirth is about bonding, not just child to mother, but father to child and, more importantly, husband to wife (as the norm). Eagerly sought out epidural-childbirth, however, is a message from the Father to his family: "I don't have what it takes for the childbirth, and chances are good that pattern will remain henceforth regarding fatherhood and husbandry".

Natural childbirth is hard to pull off without the Dad being there, being supportive, being strong. And the fact is clear that if the Dad starts out in a mode of being supportive to the extent required by the Bradley method, then by implication, the coming years will show a Dad whose manhood supports a degree of Fathering that is beyond effective written description, to say nothing of the husbandry!

Of course, some Mothers reading this would argue that cutting out Dad is the idea all along, and a darn good idea. But these words are not for them...

These words are for those few guys out there who suspect deep in their hearts that there has got to be something more to living besides serial guy-driven exploits....

There is more to life than making 'mom' happy, indeed. Guys, another way to say this is: God didn't create you to be a life-support-system for a sperm donation machine, that coincidentally also brings home a paycheck. Husbandry is a noble calling, and stuffing your ears to avoid the calls is what boys, by default, do.

Stand up, and be MEN, you boys encased in the bodies of MEN. Stand up, unstuff your ears, and be the man your children can look up to.

One could argue that Epidural Nation, which is known as the USA, and the door mat that was once known as the WTC towers, have no connection to each other. But the men who flew those planes had no fear of us - and why not?

The kind of Men who fear the pain of helping their wives through the pain of childbirth are the kind of American Guys the hijackers evaluated as they planned their way to 9-11. The American Guys who, as a rule, were not, and still are not, man enough to inflict the kind of pain that SHOULD HAVE deterred the WTC attacks from the start. The kind of guys, for example, who empathize deeply with the 'struggles' guys like Bill Clinton endure.

For me, this has been the nagging question all along: what did those supposedly crazy men in the planes perceive was missing in the average heart of the "American Man"?

What did they witness that was missing such that these Arabic men had no fear of us, no fear for their homelands, no fear for their families, and felt free, felt bold enough, to attack us, the strongest nation the world has ever seen?

In short, just WHERE is the starting point for an 'American Man'? Why, the the birthing rooms of our nation of course - and who, I ask, is missing from these rooms?

American MEN are missing.

Good, loving, supportive guys are now present in the millions .... but they are chicken-hearted, and lazy, eager to get back to their dens, Lazy Boys, and remote controls. It is, indeed, football season, and Tressel's men are doing a great job.

But the football watchers? Those guys are setting a bad example, and they are making us more vulnerable, not less, to the attacks we have seen up to now.

The Epidurals are not the problem - the guys who lean on them are the problem. Men are the solution.

Stand up Men - and enter the birthing room as a man. Our Future Men depend on it.


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To: Millee

rofl


21 posted on 10/27/2006 11:51:25 AM PDT by Chanticleer (Courage is not simply one of the virtues but the form of every virtue at the testing point. Lewis)
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To: motormouth

BURN!!


22 posted on 10/27/2006 11:51:40 AM PDT by RockinRight (Maintaining a Republican majority is MORE IMPORTANT than your temper tantrum.)
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To: gobucks
I recommend the next time you have serious dental work that you forgo the Novocaine and experience it as it was meant to be...
23 posted on 10/27/2006 11:51:41 AM PDT by meowmeow (In Loving Memory of Our Dear Viking Kitty (1987-2006))
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To: motormouth
HAHA


24 posted on 10/27/2006 11:52:46 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: gobucks

As a mom who has given birth both naturally (no pain control) and with an epidural, I would suggest the epidural every time. I was able to relax more and enjoy the birth, rather than endure an incredible amount of agony.


25 posted on 10/27/2006 11:52:56 AM PDT by sunvalley
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To: gobucks

Drug me!


26 posted on 10/27/2006 11:53:18 AM PDT by Hoodlum91 (Staying home on Nov. 7 isn't a punishment for the GOP, its a reward for the Dems.)
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To: Chanticleer

"No woman should feel guilty or inadequate because some birth plan didn't work for them".

I couldn't agree more: but there are more than a few guys out there who 'went along' with the idea of a birth plan, but then failed to prepare for what actually occurred. It is solely to them, and men like them, these words are directed.

(lol, btw, my hands are still kinda of sore! Of course, they are not as sore as some parts of Mrs. Gb....but we don't pay much attention to all that, given the joy we are enjoying w/ little miss gb).


27 posted on 10/27/2006 11:53:28 AM PDT by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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To: wideawake

"What an unadulterated, hippydippy load of quatsch."

LOL. You are right. The dad can be there "participating" his little heart out, but that isn't going to make it stop hurting. I had my first four children the "natural" way. When I had my fifth, the doctor gave me an epidural. What a relief. I said, "Why did people work so hard at talking me out of this." The doctor said, "If you figure it out, let me know." Naturally, number six was accompanied by an epidural. I love the last two every bit as much as the first four, and our relationship is just as good.

But I'm happy for gobucks and his transcendent experience. I just think it could have been just as transcendent with less pain.


28 posted on 10/27/2006 11:53:29 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: rightsmart
It really is a shame that you and your wife will never have as much joy in your children as gobucks has in his, since you failed to follow the Jerry Garcia method of fathering.
29 posted on 10/27/2006 11:54:02 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: meowmeow

a bad tooth and a new child should not be equivalized...


30 posted on 10/27/2006 11:54:40 AM PDT by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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To: gobucks

heres a helpfull parenting tip,when baby naps you and mama nap too. It will cut down on posts like this.

Congrats.


31 posted on 10/27/2006 11:54:52 AM PDT by linn37
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To: wideawake
What an unadulterated, hippydippy load of quatsch.

I would apply that same comment to the entire contents of the post.

32 posted on 10/27/2006 11:54:59 AM PDT by Elyse
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To: gobucks
Mom says...

"No apple pie for you, GoBucks!"

33 posted on 10/27/2006 11:56:03 AM PDT by jla
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To: sunvalley

For the woman, I would argue always it is easier, of course, to get an epi. But it is men, the lack of men that is, that concerns me. Where does this lack begin???? That is all I am focused on...; and a willingness of him to go down that road w/ her ... that lack of willingness that is ... that is what i am saying is the problem...


34 posted on 10/27/2006 11:57:13 AM PDT by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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To: Elyse
As would I, except that I do think that the father should be present at the birth.

Of course, I'm not a moron who believes those fathers who were not present have any less joy in being fathers.

I just think a man should stick with his wife in that situation.

35 posted on 10/27/2006 11:57:20 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: jla

lol!


36 posted on 10/27/2006 11:57:37 AM PDT by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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To: gobucks
As a single man I advocate the 'LeMans' method.

She screems like a Ferarri...

37 posted on 10/27/2006 11:57:51 AM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: gobucks

Is this guy for real? Yeah, I'll show this one to my wife. She'll probably make a deal... she'll deliver a baby naturally if all the while she gets to kick me in the nuts repeatedly.

I pity any man who tries to stand between a woman in labor and her meds.


38 posted on 10/27/2006 11:59:40 AM PDT by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: gobucks
Congratulations on your new addition to the family. Sleep deprivation can make ya do crazy things...like log onto the computer and opus on about 'nature' and 'pain' and 'men.'

There is a reason, gobucks, that epidurals are so popular...they work. Pain is not our friend...the anesthesiologist is. I know...mother of five. Largest baby, TEN POUNDS!!! I'll spare the details, but if I were a man, I would have been on ESPN's SportCenter for that one.

39 posted on 10/27/2006 12:00:52 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you...)
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To: gobucks

Hmmmm,
like the folks who believe that the pain a woman suffers in childbirth is the punishment of Eve.... It's wrong to take away the pain because, well...women are supposed to suffer!!!

Oh, yeah...
and you haven't been through the pain of childbirth. Only your wife.


40 posted on 10/27/2006 12:01:29 PM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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