[Elyse]

What an unadulterated, hippydippy load of quatsch.

I would apply that same comment to the entire contents of the post.

[wideawake]

As would I, except that I do think that the father should be present at the birth.

Of course, I'm not a moron who believes those fathers who were not present have any less joy in being fathers.

I just think a man should stick with his wife in that situation.