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As I have always argued that MLB knew about steroid/HGH use for a long time but did nothing cuz it was good for baseball and cuz MLB has no balls to confront it. I also argued that the reporters knew too but didn't want to be the guy to bring it up and get barred from the club house or get the silent treatment from players.

Last night, MLB showed they had no balls when it refused to acknowledge that Kenny Rogers cheated by putting "something" on his palm (which he had done in a previous playoff game) and just chalked it up to "dirt." Yeah right, Kenny, it was just dirt. Kenny, you might be a great pitcher and you surely had great stuff last night (which didn't warrant you cheating), but you are frickin' SCUMBAG. Again, Kenny had the right stuff last night so why did he attempt to cheat? At least he could have come up with a better excuse like, "I ran out of toilet paper so I improvised".

1 posted on 10/23/2006 6:59:41 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL
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juicing that ball...........it was very obvious and the umps were oblivious.


2 posted on 10/23/2006 7:01:41 AM PDT by shankbear (Al-Qaeda grew while Monica blew)
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What did Leyland know, and when did he know it?


3 posted on 10/23/2006 7:02:27 AM PDT by gridlock (The 'Pubbies will pick up at least TWO seats in the Senate and FOUR seats in the House in 2006)
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Hey, it could be worse. It could be a sport worth caring about.


4 posted on 10/23/2006 7:03:52 AM PDT by Terpfen (And in the second year, Nick Saban said "Let there be a franchise quarterback...")
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MLB and Fox Television MUST get the World Series viewer numbers up, and they need to go 7 games. Otherwise, it is a money loser. To be guaranteed profits, they needed two larger market teams.


5 posted on 10/23/2006 7:04:29 AM PDT by TommyDale (Iran President Ahmadinejad is shorter than Tom Daschle!)
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Taints his whole game for me.

I was a fan.


7 posted on 10/23/2006 7:05:42 AM PDT by trillabodilla (Jesus Saves)
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That was really sad and the MLB should be ashamed for not calling him on it. It wasn't dirt. It was pine tar. There is NO WAY on earth he didn't realize this was on his THROWING hand. No way on earth.

If you go back and view the 1st iniing, you can see him dig the ball into that part of his hand every time. Then after he "washed the dirt off", he not once did he dig the ball into that part of his hand.


8 posted on 10/23/2006 7:07:08 AM PDT by MadeInAmerica (- If ILLEGAL means Undocumented - Then Breaking and Entering means Unannounced Visit)
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Please don't alter titles. The title you created has to be changed now.

Just use the original published title. That will help reduce the number of duplicate threads.

Thanks.


9 posted on 10/23/2006 7:07:08 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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It was so obvious he used a substance in the 1st inning to juice the ball.

After he cleaned it off at the end of the 1st inning, his pitches weren't any good at all, which is why he got shelled the rest of the game.

Oh, wait -- he didn't get shelled the rest of the game? His pitching in the 2nd inning as just as devastating as the 1st inning when he had a "substance" on his hand?

How could that be?


10 posted on 10/23/2006 7:07:16 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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I noticed it long before the commentators brought it up. The color of it made it completely impossible for it to be dirt. Having said that, though, I cannot fathom he didn't think it would show on camera. I just can't wrap my mind around that.


11 posted on 10/23/2006 7:08:06 AM PDT by ShadowDancer (No autopsy, no foul.)
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Yeah, right. The Cardinals lost because Rogers had something on his hand.

This kind of thing is a part of baseball. I tip my hat to the Cardinal skipper for not blowing this out of proportion. He's a class act.


12 posted on 10/23/2006 7:08:08 AM PDT by zook (America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
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The empires who actually saw his hand do not agree with your assessment. They all agreed the substance was dirt. And since dirt is not a foreign substance and they did not notice that any of the balls were doctored in any way, you are just blowing smoke.


13 posted on 10/23/2006 7:08:47 AM PDT by Always Right
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He seemed to pitch just as well without it. It was removed after the first inning and he pitched eight. There was no mention of this in his prior appearances where he also threw shutout ball.


15 posted on 10/23/2006 7:09:35 AM PDT by Dilbert56
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y the second inning the substance was gone, and the pitcher's hand looked clean.

Okay, so he had something on his hand in the 1st inning. But what about the rest of the game?

18 posted on 10/23/2006 7:10:48 AM PDT by al_c
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LoL. Pretty weak.


20 posted on 10/23/2006 7:11:05 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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LaRusso knew it was pine tar when a ball ended up in the Cards dugout in the middle of the first inning. You could see him and others inspecting it. My new HDTV could see it was tar as clear as a bell. It was not dirt. It was shiny and sticky looking. I was yelling at the TV for LaRusso to run on the field and catch the dirtbag Rogers red or brown handed.


25 posted on 10/23/2006 7:14:28 AM PDT by Ron in Acreage (VOTE DEMOCRAT--TERRORISTS ARE COUNTING ON IT)
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OMGOSH! Suspicious substance spotted on a Cardinal's chin!


29 posted on 10/23/2006 7:16:26 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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Yeah, there's gotta be something that's causing your team to lose to the other team!

I just know there's something....

31 posted on 10/23/2006 7:19:30 AM PDT by Hatteras
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Spitzer Isn't that a Bush colleague?

So the Cardinals were Bushwacked by the Tigers! But then again, Cardinals are in season and Tigers are an endangered specious!

35 posted on 10/23/2006 7:20:57 AM PDT by Young Werther
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Oh for crying out loud. You act like pitchers have never before in the history of the game either actually tampered with the baseball or put on a show to make it look like they had tampered with the ball.

Mike Scott with the Astros had the players perpetually convinced that he was tampering with the ball -- so much so that he didn't have to actually do it. Batters were completely psyched out. Same thing with the old man of the mound, Hoyt Wilhelm, back in the 1950's and 60's.

Who knows whether Rogers had something illegal on his hands (if it was pine tar, it sure did wash off pretty easy). But the classic headline in today's paper ("Cardinals Left to Wonder What Rogers Was Up To") tells you a lot. Rogers got into the Cardinals heads.

Pitchers can legally rub the ball with their hands and rub their hands with dirt, rosin, and sweat. Not much you can do to a ball outside of putting a piece of chewing gum on it or sanding a flat spot (which is going to make the ball do some crazy stuff) is going to have any more effect than the ordinary sweat-rosin-dirt combination.

But I'll admit, it's kinda' fun to play the outrage game ("we was robbed!").


42 posted on 10/23/2006 7:26:08 AM PDT by atlaw
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What a non-issue. I think that Rogers smears dirt on his hand in big games to psych out the other team. They batters notice the dirt, and think it's some "substance". This freaks them out take them out of their game...which of course works to Rogers advantage.


44 posted on 10/23/2006 7:27:08 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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