Posted on 10/23/2006 6:59:40 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL
DETROIT -- Kenny Rogers pitched eight scoreless innings Sunday, running his shutout streak this postseason to 23 innings while helping the Tigers even the World Series at a game apiece.
And yet, all anyone can talk about is Rogers' dirty left hand.
Early in the Tigers' 3-1 win over the Cardinals, there appeared to be a dispute about something on Rogers' pitching hand. Television cameras caught a brownish substance, possibly dirt, on the palm of Rogers' left hand in the first inning, and showed it several times. By the second inning the substance was gone, and the pitcher's hand looked clean.
(Excerpt) Read more at sports.espn.go.com ...
I know that every time I've managed a team in the World Series, I have been much more on the ball... (Oh, wait a minute...)
Are you ever going to comment on the next seven innings?
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Yup, I will comment. However, someone already made the comment for you to see (and the media sees the obvious also)...the magic dirt issue later in the game.
Look at the video of him in the sixth and seventh innings. The camera crew were getting shots of the back of his hat. It looks like the same stuff.
Tim McCarver observed the Rogers took his glove into the clubhouse after the game and was shaking hands with his glove on. Who shakes hands with his glove on?
Listen to the audio clips. Why did Rogers' story keep changing? First he denied that the umpire talked to him about it. He said that he saw the "clump of dirt" himself and cleaned it off. Then later he says that the umpire told him to clean it off. Which is it?
I'll send you a tin foil hat in the mail.
See ya.
I'll send you a tin foil hat in the mail.
See ya.
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Boy, those ESPN guys are so far out there, you should sent it to them. I do suppose you have extras.
He did? He got kicked out of the game? Who was that masked man Pitching the rest of the game?
Busted implies he was caught and punished. He was asked to clean his hands, he did. He was not kicked out of the game, LaRussa (AFTER INSPECTING A BALL IN THE DUGOUT) did not ASK for him to be checked -- ERGO Tony LaRussa knew that there was no illegal substance on the ball.
OH NO WAIT, I got it, Tony LaRussa is actually being paid off by Rogers to look the other way. Yeah, that's the ticket.
BOTTOM LINE - LaRussa and half the Cardinal roster looked at the ball in the dugout and said nothing. Are you actually going to say that they would not have said something and demanded Rogers be inspected if the ball had something on it? If that is the case, then Tony LaRussa is the biggest Moron on the planet and deserved to lose that game.
Nobody is denying that Kenny Rogers is a great pitcher. He has been one of the best for a long, long time.
Make that a long, long, long, long time.
It may be that he is capable of pitching shut-out ball without artificial aides. But that doesn't mean he didn't have something helping him out in the First Inning.
The fact that he went on to pitch a great game is irrelevant to the question, because a) great pitchers pitch great games from time to time, and b) there are a lot of ways to doctor the ball.
Rolling with laughter!!! You nailed it. Heck, it's like he's trying to keep alive the idea that he was doctoring the ball!
We had a pitcher in High School who would take his warm-ups with an emory board stuck in his belt. Oldest trick in the book. But it still worked.
I swear it's like everybody was born yesterday.
LaRussa is a very passive coach and always has been. But even worse is the other coach is one of his best friends. LaRussa has been called on his passiveness many times over the years here. That's just the way he coaches.
However, how can the umps kick him out WHEN he already washed his hands BEFORE he came back out on the field.
Oh yeah, busted means just that. When I see 2 pictures of a pitcher, in 2 different games with the same "dirt" in the same spot....That's BUSTED.
Do you by any chance play poker? Just asking, 'cause we got a game every tuesday night that you might enjoy.
wonder if(cardinal shill)Tim Macarver has any Mark McGwire shoot-up shots(crickets..)MLB is a joke, but these cards fans "whaaa, he cheated" make me LOL.
Rolling with laughter!!! You nailed it. Heck, it's like he's trying to keep alive the idea that he was doctoring the ball!
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When you tell the truth, you don't have to keep changing your story. That's the beauty of telling the truth and the changing story is a tell tale sign of lying.
However, when 2 pics show up with the same dirt spot....in 2 different games in the playoff (ESPN states he has it in EVERY game he pitched in playoffs)...
Rogers is good. He was even switching balls using dead balls so the Cardinals hit home runs. You did not catch that did you. Everyone who saw that hit from Pujols knew it was a home run when it left his bat, but it just ended up being a routine fly ball. That Rogers is one tricky SOB, gotta love him!
THE UMPIRES ASKED HIM TO WASH HIS HANDS!!! How hard is that for you to understand. Read the Friggin Article. Marquez asked him to wash his hands. or is the Director of Umpiring Steve Palermo lying too? Maybe he is on the conspiracy?
Plus, you are going to actually say that in the WORLD SERIES --- that a manager who sees an opposing player cheating is going to say nothing AND LET HIS OWN TEAM LOSE just because the other manager is his friend. If that is the case then Tony LaRussa is the stupidest man on the face of the earth.
When I see 2 pictures of a pitcher, in 2 different games with the same "dirt" in the same spot....That's BUSTED.
Do you by any chance play poker? Just asking, 'cause we got a game every tuesday night that you might enjoy.
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If you believe he wasn't cheating, that is was just dirt, that happens to appear before every playoff game he pitched in..... I would LOVE to play poker with you.
THE UMPIRES ASKED HIM TO WASH HIS HANDS!!! How hard is that for you to understand. Read the Friggin Article. Marquez asked him to wash his hands. or is the Director of Umpiring Steve Palermo lying too? Maybe he is on the conspiracy?
Plus, you are going to actually say that in the WORLD SERIES --- that a manager who sees an opposing player cheating is going to say nothing AND LET HIS OWN TEAM LOSE just because the other manager is his friend. If that is the case then Tony LaRussa is the stupidest man on the face of the earth.
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It's the magic dirt that sticks to his throwing hand before every playoff game he pitches.
It's all gamesmanship, Kenny gets people thinking that there's something there, when there really isn't. Seems like a good way to get into the other team's heads without actually cheating. Why else would he make it so obvious?
is it :
EXHIBIT A
1. Kenny Rogers has illegal substance on hand
2. Tony LaRussa inspects balls, sees illegal substance, but is so nice he doesn't say anything so he won't upset his friend in the other dugout
3. Home Plate Umpire Angel Marquez sees the illegal substance and tells ROgers "Better wash that off before someone catchs you"
4. Rogers transfers substance to back of cap, but FOX catches him, but they are in on the fix too so they don't tell anyone.
OR
Exhibit B
1. Rogers has dirt on hand and is asked to wash it off.
Given his performance after the first inning, when the dirt was gone, I'd say you're way off base. Of course, you could always claim he had a piece of sandpaper glued to his clothing somewhere and he used it to scuff the ball. That's the great thing about conspiracies and excuses -- there are an endless number of possibilities.
Oh my. Where have the Biblical values in the game of baseball gone? Why in the old days, the players were paragons of virtue, and nobody ever dreamed of playing a ruse. Oh. Except for Ty Cobb. And Louis Tiant. And Phil Niekro. And . . . But those guys were just a few thousand bad apples. The rest of the players were ordained ministers on the side. That's a fact.
(You really need learn a little about baseball. As Yogi said "Baseball is 90 percent mental. The other half is physical.")
I swear. You're just hilarious. And the game is tuesday nights. See ya' there, and bring your wallet.
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