Posted on 10/23/2006 6:59:40 AM PDT by MAD-AS-HELL
DETROIT -- Kenny Rogers pitched eight scoreless innings Sunday, running his shutout streak this postseason to 23 innings while helping the Tigers even the World Series at a game apiece.
And yet, all anyone can talk about is Rogers' dirty left hand.
Early in the Tigers' 3-1 win over the Cardinals, there appeared to be a dispute about something on Rogers' pitching hand. Television cameras caught a brownish substance, possibly dirt, on the palm of Rogers' left hand in the first inning, and showed it several times. By the second inning the substance was gone, and the pitcher's hand looked clean.
(Excerpt) Read more at sports.espn.go.com ...
Keep whining, it just turns more Americans against the Cards.
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ROFL, like I care (or anyone in St. louis cares for that matter) if YOU or anyone else outside STL roots for the St. Louis Cards or not. But when cheating is so obvious, we refuse to be lied to and told it's just sour grapes.
Kinda like Dems do all the time. lol
If it makes it to a game 6, I wouldn't be surprised to see every single Detroit Player with a Brown mark on his hand... Except Rogers. He should step on the mound, and in front of everyone, show his hands open and the turn them so everyone sees no marks. (But he should have a nice brown smudge on his shirt, on his pants, etc.
This just in:
Cards fans observed covered in WHINE TAR....
i am not a card fan. I would have made the same comment if Weaver had done the same. But thanks for letting me know you condone cheating.
and after the first inning,
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Gee, I wonder what he could have done AFTER the first inning, while he was in the dugout. Wash his hands, then rub a little dirt on it. I wonder if he had an idea he was going to be called on it.
Besides, you fail to answer the main question. WHy was this mystery dirt on his hand in every playoff game he pitched? Per ESPN.
Must be some magic dirt.
I'm outraged, I tell ya'! Outraged! Why the cheating was so obvious it was like Rogers WANTED everyone to see it! Oh wait . . .
I think a major problem with baseball is Selig. The office of commissioner was created as an impartial one, but Selig is still a de facto owner. He was appointed "acting commissioner" after he lead the efforts to oust Vincent in 1992. It seems that the other owners must have been thrilled to have one of their own as commissioner, so they never bothered to look for a permanent commissioner and six years later they just dropped "acting" from his title. Through it all, they haven't cared about the improprieties because it has made them plenty of money.
And how about the other seven innings being as good as the first? Did he use an invisible cheating substance?
Pathetic.
Shots of Rogers' hand from Game 3 of the ALCS, left, and Sunday. A brown smudge has overshadowed Game 2 of the World Series. After seeing the evidence and listening to the explanations on Sunday night, Gene Wojciechowski is left wondering: Did Kenny Rogers cheat? This from the espn main page.
If the series gets back to Detroit, it would be hillarious if the radio stations there encouraged fans to show up with brown smudges on their left palm. 40,000 raised palms with whine tar, kinda like the Iraqi purple fingers!
So cheating is o.k. if you are good anyway? What is wrong with you?
Well, that doesn't even say Marquez looked at his hand.
I'm not taking any position on whether or not there was something there. I'm agnostic on that point. As a Yankee fan, I can afford to be bemusedly detatched.
But I didn't see any video of any umpire inspecting Kenny Rogers' hand. The fact that he was not inspected and told to turn out his pockets means somebody did not do his job, and that somebody is Tony LaRussa. If LaRussa wants to imply that Rogers is dirty, but is unwilling to back it up by requesting and inspection, then that is where the problem is.
Look at post 69. 2 DIFFERENT GAMES. Magic DIRT?
CHEAT
Kenny Offers Excuse to Media:
I wipe with my left hand and I forgot to wash.
After the first inning would be when Kenny Rogers was coming out to take the mound for the Top of the Second. Unless I am mistaken, he washed his hand after the Bottom of the First, when he went back to the dugout and the Tigers came up to bat. Since the game is in Detroit, he would not have had to stick around to bat.
So after the First, before the start of the Second, Rogers' had would have already been washed.
Pathetic.
I very seriously doubt, given his everyman physique, that Rogers has ever taken steroids. He is a fine pitcher, and nothing more. As for "classic 'roid rage" I'm not sure what that is exactly, but losing one's temper and acting childishly is not a direct sign of steroid abuse.
Tim McCarver observed the Rogers took his glove into the clubhouse after the game and was shaking hands with his glove on. Who shakes hands with his glove on?
Listen to the audio clips. Why did Rogers' story keep changing? First he denied that the umpire talked to him about it. He said that he saw the "clump of dirt" himself and cleaned it off. Then later he says that the umpire told him to clean it off. Which is it?
I can't figure out why La Russa didn't ask for an inspection other than that the other manager is Jim Leyland. La Russa knew what was happening and didn't do anything about it. I think that if the other manager had been anybody else, if it had been Dusty Baker, for example, La Russa would have demanded an inspection in a flash.
Cordially,
Proof of cheating? Interesting pic, but proof, I don't think so. If he had been hit hard the rest of the game I might even agree. Now what about those other seven innings? I know it was an invisible substance, of course......perhaps you can show me a pic of that too.....
Pathetic.
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Justifying the cheating is the pathetic part actually. You actually believe in 2 different games (3 actually, ESPN has that one as well), dirt lands in the same spot of his throwing hand?
Did he move it to his cap? Maybe his glove? Maybe his other thumb?
That is pathetic. Gets BUSTED and can't even admit it with photo proof of the magic dirt.
If not, please stop embarrassing yourself with this rant. How did the man pitch the same for the next seven innings?
And if you can't answer that, I won't bother posting back.
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