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Novell makes file-storage software shift
news.com ^ | 10-12-2006 | Stephen Shankland

Posted on 10/15/2006 1:26:49 PM PDT by N3WBI3

Novell is changing the file system software used by default in its Suse Linux operating system, aligning with rival Red Hat and moving away from a project whose future has become entangled with the fate of a murder suspect.

Novell said Thursday that new versions of Suse Linux Enterprise will use ext3 as the default file system, important foundational software that manages how data is stored on hard drives. The change demotes the current default, ReiserFS, to a secondary, though still supported, option.

ReiserFS has been under the control of Hans Reiser, a programmer who this week was arrested on suspicion of murdering his estranged wife. Novell had been considering its decision well before that event, however.

"In response to customer demand, in the next version Novell will be changing the default file system in new installations from ReiserFS 3 to ext3," Novell said in a statement. "Novell will continue to support and improve ReiserFS version 3."

Reiser has been urging the move to version 4 of the software, called Reiser4, but it's not part of the mainstream Linux kernel, and Suse was still using version 3. Reiser's company, Namesys, charges money for ReiserFS support.

Novell engineers have been weighing their file system choices for some time.

"There are a number of problems with (ReiserFS), some purely technical, some more related to maintenance," Jeff Mahoney of Suse Labs said in a September letter. "ReiserFS has a small and shrinking development community," he said, and pointed to problems running on large servers and Reiser's preference for version 4, which still isn't stable, he said. Ext3, in contrast, is stable and likely will match ReiserFS's performance advantages "soon."

In a posting Wednesday to the Linux kernel mailing list, Reiser file system programmer Alexander Lyamin said the project will carry on, though the group has been rattled by the arrest.

"Yes, we are rather shaken and stressed at moment, although I cannot say we didn't see it coming," Lyamin said.

ReiserFS 3.6 is largely only being updated with bug fixes, but for Reiser4, the group is still "chunking out patches, fixing issues and generally cleaning the house," Lyamin said.

The Reiser4 programmers look for "existing business opportunities to get some funding" for their work in the next six months, he added. After that, "If it goes the way we hope it will go, we will do fine. If it goes bad, that is where it becomes tricky. We will try to appoint a proxy to run the Namesys business."


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: linux; novell; opensource

1 posted on 10/15/2006 1:26:50 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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2 posted on 10/15/2006 1:44:16 PM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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I see Novell is still diligently re-arranging the deck chairs.


3 posted on 10/15/2006 2:08:26 PM PDT by Space Wrangler
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To: N3WBI3
AFAIK Novell was the only distro that used RieserFS as a default filesystem. Now that Hans is in jail (and likely will be for life), it's a good time to abandon it. The ext2/ext3/ext4 series may be very slightly less optimal, but it has much wider support. Even "Partition Magic" has support for ext2.
4 posted on 10/15/2006 3:41:27 PM PDT by free_at_jsl.com
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To: Space Wrangler
Just out of curiosity, not because I disagree with your assessment, what would you do if you were novell?
5 posted on 10/15/2006 9:05:59 PM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: Space Wrangler
"I see Novell is still diligently re-arranging the deck chairs."

Yup, me too. Responding to another poster, what they should have done was take SuSe, sell SuSe as a consumer linux, but then use the codebase to build a business-grade version, and renamed it Netware. That name still has value. Had they done that, they'd probably keep their existing NW customers (which is where all the money comes from), and put themselves in position to compete for new ones. "Here's your new Netware upgrade, now with the power and flexibility of Linux".

Instead, they're sticking with the SuSe name and that dumb lizard. Novell won't exist in 10 years. They'll have gone bankrupt, and whatever assetts they have auctioned off to creditors.
6 posted on 10/15/2006 10:30:24 PM PDT by DesScorp
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Probably not much more than their doing now, but in addition to the deck chair re-arranging, I'd be polishing up my resume, because this battle was lost for good when MS rolled out Server 2003. Up until that point, Novell was still in the hunt. I could go on and on about the horrible moves that Novell made with Netware, but it's all academic now.


7 posted on 10/16/2006 5:41:43 AM PDT by Space Wrangler
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To: DesScorp
Great suggestion, Especially given that Linux supports the protocols and tools behind netware..
8 posted on 10/16/2006 7:37:08 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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