Posted on 10/10/2006 11:20:34 AM PDT by yankeedame
The Muslims are still acting like it's 732.
crusade bump.
Ping!
30% of the under-20 population of modern France is Muslim. The French could use a Martel right about now.
Are you implying the french won a battle? I find this VERY difficult to believe.
Let's not forget that Lance Armstong his Tours victory is pure American
ML/NJ
Was he boorish to the Moorish multitude?
Well, they say the Lord moves in mysterious ways.
President Bush is a direct descendent of Charles Martel.
And like his great-great-.....-great-grandpappy, he is called to lead a disorganized Western civilization to defeat this enemy again.
Westerners should wear white and red and march in the streets.
Both the French and Germans consider Charlemagne the father of their countries. Sometimes, I wonder how history is taught in Europe, now, because the Battle of Tours has always been considered a real turning point our contemporaries seem to have forgotten.
Hammer time ping.
One of my all-time favorite historical figures. The Hammer rulz...
BTTT!
Great Post!
Actually the French did not yet exist in 732. Most of the population in what is now France spoke Vulgate Latin, rather like Church Latin, with a Gallic (Celtic) accent and loan words. The Germanic over-class in France, and the entire population of Germany, spoke the Frankish or other German dialects, with a greater or lesser number of Latin loan words, depending on location.
The only bad thing was that he stopped slaying 'em.
often called Battle of Poitiers and also called in Arabic... The Court of MartyrsHey, on behalf of civilization, glad to be there for all those martyrs. Couple hundred million more should do it -- but only if you insist.
The history of Western Europe would undeniably be very different had the Frankish army been defeated in 732.
Like the victory of Constantinople some fifteen years earlier, Muslim advances had finally been thwarted, and the steady Reconquista of Spain and parts of Byzantine Empire began apace...
Though the Byzantines finally succumbed by 1453, the Turks were eventually defeated in the great naval battle at Lepanto in 1571, and turned away from Vienna in 1683.
The threat of the Caliphate encroaching on Western Europe never penetrated as far west again--until today, as unassimilated Muslim immigrants threaten to "behead those who insult Islam" and foment rage at every perceived slight.
http://slapstickpolitics.blogspot.com/2006/10/charles-martel-and-battle-of-tours.html#links
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