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Slain woman's kids were in washer, dryer
Yahoo News ^ | Sun Sep 24, 10:39 AM ET | By JIM SUHR, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 09/24/2006 11:28:49 AM PDT by CMS

Authorities on Sunday were trying to pinpoint the cause of death for three children an investigator says were found decomposing inside the washer and dryer of their apartment, hours after a woman was accused of killing their pregnant mother and her fetus.

Saturday night's discovery inside apartment 28J at the John DeShields public housing complex came two days after the mother of the children — ages 7, 2 and 1 — was found in a weedy lot, her abdomen torn open and the fetus missing. Investigators carried out a furious two-day search, including scouring an 1,100-acre state park, for the children they said were last seen Monday with 24-year-old Tiffany Hall, a family friend prosecutors charged Saturday afternoon with killing Jimella Tunstall and her fetus.

Hall "fessed up where the kids were. She didn't say she killed them," Hart said Sunday, saying he understood why investigators may have overlooked the children during their previous trip to the apartment. "Who would be looking in the washer and dryer?"

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Hall and the baby were taken to a hospital, where she would not let doctors examine her and offered conflicting reasons for why she went into labor, alternately saying she had consensual sex and was raped, Hart said. The dead baby showed no signs of trauma, and an autopsy the next day failed to pinpoint a cause of death, Hart said.

Authorities say Hall acknowledged to her boyfriend during the baby's funeral Thursday that the child wasn't his, and that she had killed the mother to get it. The boyfriend, reportedly a sailor home on leave, told police, who arrested his girlfriend hours later, investigators said.

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Hall likely will be arraigned Monday on the two charges, each carrying a 20 to 60 years or life in prison, Haida said. The murder count could be punishable by the death penalty.


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Reading about stuf like this make my blood boil. This person deserves the death penalty.
There is a special place in hell for people who commit these crimes.
1 posted on 09/24/2006 11:28:51 AM PDT by CMS
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To: CMS
This news story is confusing. Hall went into labor? Why would she need to be examined by a doctor. There is no mention of where and how she was found with the baby. Was the baby alive when found?

Terrible story with terrible news coverage.

2 posted on 09/24/2006 11:32:02 AM PDT by RushCrush (Gimme full consistent cell phone coverage, THEN worry about global warming. Mkay?)
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"Who would be looking in the washer and dryer?"

I don't know.  A competent murder investigator, maybe?

3 posted on 09/24/2006 11:32:26 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: CMS
This person deserves the death penalty.

I would agree.

Now, however, let's see what a defense lawyer will say:

My client is:
a)Insane
b)Low IQ

Either way, if they can successfully get that message across, the monster responsible won't be receive the death penalty.

4 posted on 09/24/2006 11:32:49 AM PDT by csvset (Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil & inhumane)
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In court,this piece of filth will claim to be bipolar.The jury will find her not guilty by reason of insanity and she'll be out of the psych hospital within 24 months.


5 posted on 09/24/2006 11:34:13 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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Hall "fessed up where the kids were. She didn't say she killed them," Hart said Sunday, saying he understood why investigators may have overlooked the children during their previous trip to the apartment. "Who would be looking in the washer and dryer?"

Who are these investigators? The keystone cops?

6 posted on 09/24/2006 11:35:00 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: CMS

Time was, you would know that this person would fry. Today, you just know she'll outlive us both and become a best selling author.


7 posted on 09/24/2006 11:36:33 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Victory will never be achieved while defining Conservatism downward, and forsaking it's heritage.)
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"I don't know. A competent murder investigator, maybe? "

Absolutely correct, any investigators worth their salt would look in any container with size enough to hold even a small portion of a body. Someone should answer for this incompetence.

This vicious murderer should face the death penalty for this horrific crime. Prayers for the children and their mother.

8 posted on 09/24/2006 11:37:42 AM PDT by CremeSaver
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To: CMS
 

9 posted on 09/24/2006 11:39:44 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Psycho_Bunny
"Who would be looking in the washer and dryer?"

Bwah haha. If the cops were looking for dope, they damn sure would have checked the washer and dryer, count on it.

10 posted on 09/24/2006 11:40:00 AM PDT by csvset (Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil & inhumane)
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From: http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/09/23/killed.fetus.ap/index.html

The East St. Louis case is the second recent case in the area involving babies.

Shannon Torrez, 36, of Lonedell, Missouri -- south of St. Louis, about an hour's drive from here -- is accused of slashing a young mother's throat and kidnapping her baby on Sept. 15. The baby was returned unharmed Tuesday, the same day Torrez was arrested.

Also in Missouri, Lisa Montgomery is to stand trial April 30 on charges of snatching a baby from the womb of Bobbie Jo Stinnett at her Skidmore, Missouri, home in 2004. The baby survived.

We really need to bring back firing squads.

11 posted on 09/24/2006 11:42:38 AM PDT by AnnaZ (Sh'ma Yisrael Adonai Elohaynu Adonai Echad)
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no, it's been edited. according to the story, Hall called police and said she'd given birth to a stillborn child in a park somewhere. She and the deceased baby were taken to a hospital and she refused to be examined.

Even with all this, none of it really makes "sense," if such a thing ever could. Just seems like the whole thing is being cast a certain way.

Notwithstanding, it's too gruesome to comprehend. Too wicked; too damning of our times.

I suppose Hillary Clinton could have prevented this somehow...

12 posted on 09/24/2006 11:46:30 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("...peace is the result of victory...")
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Yep, you'd think they'd look in any spot big enough to hold a child.


13 posted on 09/24/2006 11:46:39 AM PDT by kenth (There are three kinds of people in the world. Those who can count, and those who can't.)
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To: AnnaZ
We really need to bring back firing squads.

That or public hangings.
14 posted on 09/24/2006 11:46:46 AM PDT by CMS (in Kuwait on the way home! IF YOU CAN'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, THEN PLEASE STAND IN FRONT OF THEM)
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To: csvset

Outstanding and very sad comparison. You're so right, had the money maker been involved, they would have torn the place apart.


15 posted on 09/24/2006 11:48:22 AM PDT by kenth (There are three kinds of people in the world. Those who can count, and those who can't.)
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"Who would be looking in the washer and dryer?"

I don't know. A competent murder investigator, maybe?


I would have! And I'm far from being a cop! That question is so stupid to me it makes me doubt the skill of the speaker. Not professional skill even - just common sense. I would have not only looked in the washer I'd have looked in small places searching for body parts.

By the way you can call me a moron because I could not find who/what the person is who is quoted saying that in the article. I found on cnn : "...Ace Hart, a deputy St. Clair County coroner."

Ace Hart is a classic detective name but this one is dumb.
16 posted on 09/24/2006 11:48:42 AM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: A knight without armor

Yes! My husband was Crime Scene Investigator, while looking for a murdered victim he opened a attache case and lo and behold....hand. I think it was the only part of the body found.


17 posted on 09/24/2006 11:54:58 AM PDT by CremeSaver
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To: CremeSaver

My dearly departed soul mate and I used to love to discuss crimes and we were always shocked at how naive people can be. I must say that quote still stuns me.


18 posted on 09/24/2006 12:00:52 PM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: Psycho_Bunny

When investigators are searching for missing children, they need to look literally everywhere a child could hide or where a child's body could be hidden.

It's tragic, but they don't seem to be learning from even the high-profile cases. The police at the Ramsey home in Boulder in 1996 didn't search the basement. The police in Camden last year didn't search the trunk of an abandoned car near the house of three missing boys.

I don't know exactly what is wrong with our law enforcement personnel today, but some of them seem to lack common sense. I have a feeling that some agencies hire officers who fit a politically-correct profile, instead of looking for the best candidates for the job.


19 posted on 09/24/2006 12:01:01 PM PDT by 04-Bravo
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Why would she need to be examined by a doctor.

Because she was carrying around a dead child that she claimed to have just give birth to.

At least I think so.

This story is very confusing.

20 posted on 09/24/2006 12:03:11 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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