Animal bordellos draw Norwegians

Animal bordellos draw Norwegians Denmark's animal bordellos reportedly draw Norwegian clients, but both countries have loopholes that make such establishments legal. Here a Danish animal owner offers his horse to a Danish journalist claiming to be interested in animal sex.

Related stories: Former cop busted in pig pen - Neither Denmark nor Norway has a prohibition on sex with animals, as long as the animals do not suffer.

On the Internet Danish animal owners advertise openly that they offer sex with animals, without intervention from police or other authorities, Danish newspaper 24timer reports.

In correspondence with the animal owners, the newspaper was told that the animals involved have many years of experience and that the animals themselves wanted sex. The cost to the client varied from DKK 500-1,000 (USD 85-170).

Could you provide any evidence that laws against bestiality and such are motivated by people who are aroused or "agreeably exited" by locking people up?

Only the judgment of history provides the evidence, - as Arthur Koestler once commented :

"-- The continuous disasters of man's history are mainly due to his excessive capacity and urge to become identified with a tribe, nation, church or cause, and to espouse its credo uncritically and enthusiastically, even if its tenets are contrary to reason, devoid of self-interest and detrimental to the claims of self-preservation. We are thus driven to the unfashionable conclusion that the trouble with our species is not an excess of aggression, but an excess capacity for fanatical devotion. --"

First, you take the name of Paine, the guy who wrote in The Crisis of the "summer soldier and the sunshine patriot," yet you say that our problems spring from excessive identification "with a tribe, nation, church or cause." Gee, no contradiction there...

Indeed, there isn't.. -- Paine was writing about the fanatical English who were bound up in their "excessive identification with a nation, church and cause." -- Their 'cause' was empire..

Second, you're going on record that prohibiting sex with animals is "contrary to reason?"

Prohibiting most anything is contrary to 'reasonably regulating' .. We protect life, liberty, property in the USA by using due process of constitutional law to regulate sin. -- Writing and enforcing prohibitional type laws violate due process.

Third, and most importantly, you didn't provide any evidence of anything.

I admitted that only our history can provide that evidence. Our Constitution is an excellent source for researching that history.

I asked you to show that people X did action Y for the reason you said they did, and you responded with "People do all sorts of stuff because they're fanatical."

Yep, guarding peoples rights from fanatics is a big part of our history.

That's like a judge saying to a prosecuter, "Can you show that the defendant shot the victim for his money instead of self defense" and the prosecuter says, "Well, violence on TV is bad for kids." Can you back your accusation up or not?

Not to you I'd guess.

I've mentioned this several times on FR, it fits on this discussion.

A few years ago I served on a grand jury for three months, once a week. Heard a lot and learned a lot. At our last meeting, the head DA for the county (a western rural red county in a blue state) and I were talking after everyone else had left. I thanked him for the opportunity to serve and told him how much I had learned. He was retiring, and I wished him a happy retirement. I also mentioned that it seemed as though the crime problems would not change unless public caning were instituted, as in Singapore.

He agreed, in perfect seriousness, that public caning was the only solution, but the public won't go for it.

Public pain and public shame would change peoples' behavior, whereas incarceration makes most people worse. It would save taxpayers an incredible amount of money, and wouldn't take years away from people - their punishment would be over very quickly and they could get another chance to act like a human being.

And wannabees would have a chance to do some deep thinking about their future.

Unless and until public corporal punishment is instituted, and proper use of the death penalty as well, we're going to see nothing but an increase of all manner of crimes, with honest citizenry more and more cowering in gated communities, windows barred, afraid to go for walks at night or use parks, or allow their children out of their sight.

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