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1 posted on 09/12/2006 10:51:49 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus; boromeo

ha ha, this could become a routine. I get home from the office around 10, try to get started on my "take home" stuff, and instead waste a couple of hours hating on masons.

Can we discuss the DC street map tomorrow?

In all serious, if your information on the Supreme Court is correct, I guess it's not all that surprising.


2 posted on 09/12/2006 10:55:54 PM PDT by YCTHouston (Goodbye Flyer)
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To: dangus

Masons are a cult, like Moonies. I was offered, and rejected membership.


3 posted on 09/12/2006 10:57:06 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: dangus

I often suspect nonsense about all US Presidents but Kennedy (the assassinated guy) being Masonic are ruses to purposely discredit anti-Masons. Less than a third of U.S. Presidents were Masonic. On the other hand, it's interesting to note that the last three openly Masonic presidents came to power not by way of an election, but by the untimely departure of their predecessor: Ford, Johnson, and Truman were Masons. But again, why speculate about the unknowable when the knowable is devestating: Freemasons have dismantled American Democracy through an "activist" Supreme Court since 1937.

(Incidentally, the judge who established the questionnably constitutional precedent of judicial supremacy, Marshall, was also a freemason. And yes, the concept is questionable: Many have argued that the veto was intended as the mechanism to prevent the passage of unconstitutional legislation. Again, the President who politicized the veto, Jackson, was also Masonic.)


4 posted on 09/12/2006 10:57:44 PM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Interesting post. Thanks.


5 posted on 09/12/2006 10:58:16 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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"an anti-Masonic, Catholic group"

What one is that? Knights?
6 posted on 09/12/2006 10:59:50 PM PDT by WakeUpAndVote (Got towel?)
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dangus wrote: "...Freemasons generally disdain Catholics"

Stuff and nonsense! All men who believe in God are welcome to become Masons.

Catholics are welcome but from what I understand, the Vatican prohibits practicing Roman Catholics from joining any group which has a code of secrecy.

Not long ago I heard the story of a practicing active Roman Catholic priest who was a Mason.

7 posted on 09/12/2006 10:59:53 PM PDT by bd476
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To: dangus

So, none of today's justices are Masons? What went wrong, I thought they controlled everything?


10 posted on 09/12/2006 11:05:33 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Free Iran! WARNING! Forbidden Cartoon: .. . *-O(( :-{>. . . .)
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12 posted on 09/12/2006 11:10:11 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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Mason's don't care one way or another about Catholics. It's the Catholics that are forbidden to be Freemasons by the church.Freemasons only require that you believe in God. Catholics require that you not keep secrets from the pope. Jews qualify because they believe in God. Many Christian fundamentalists require that you believe Jesus is God. I believe Jesus is God, but don't discriminate against others who don't and I'm about as fundamental as it comes. That's God's department. God has His people and the Devil has his. It's the Holy Spirit's job to change you, not mine, I can't.Some are angry that most of Masonry is based on the Old Testament. The Old Testament is part of the Bible too. Jesus said I came to fulfill the Law, not change it.

The Freemason's is just a bunch of guys trying to do good for people. The mysteries were designed to attract people to it. Most of our forefathers were Mason's. Texas was founded by Mason's. Most of the government we have today is based on Masonry. When you take an oath for the government, it is very similar to Masonic oaths.

I can't for the life of me figure why patriotic people hate Masons. You are hating the foundation of who you are.

There are good Masons and crappy ones, just like there are good Catholics and crappy ones. If Catholics excommunicated Democrats like they hate Masons, maybe the country would change. The Jews do the same thing. They vote for Democrats that hate Israel and would sell them out in a minute because they can't believe Republicans would never turn on them.

Being a Mason is more for raising money for charity than stacking the court with some cabal. Anyone that gains the power will attempt to promote people they want and to hell with what you want. You don't have to be Masonic for that.

14 posted on 09/12/2006 11:15:39 PM PDT by chuckles
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I am an avid reader of old newspapers and have seen literally thousands of obituaries.

I find it very interesting that many of the community and civic minded citizens are (were?) Masons. They almost always have a church affiliation and are married with children.

I do not know what goes on behind closed doors at Masonic lodges but the folks themselves seem to not be a drain on society.
22 posted on 09/12/2006 11:31:19 PM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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Wow, a real Anti-Masonic. That's like meeting a Jacobite or a Whig in the flesh.

What's your opinion on free silver, eh?

-ccm

23 posted on 09/12/2006 11:33:14 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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28 posted on 09/12/2006 11:40:54 PM PDT by uglybiker (Don't look at me. I didn't make you stupid.)
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So you are Anti-Catholic AND Anti-Freemasonry?
30 posted on 09/12/2006 11:44:42 PM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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Uhhh...whats your point?


50 posted on 09/13/2006 12:42:44 AM PDT by Khurkris (When the levee breaks there'll be no place to hide.)
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Did They Invent MASON Jars.


51 posted on 09/13/2006 12:44:28 AM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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You sound a lot like some Catholic kids I met when I was young. They told me I couldn't play on the church playground by my home, cuz I was Lutheran & that meant I was going to go to hell. They let my neighbor play tho, because an Episcopalian was close enough.

The secret to building those big Gothic churches was kept by the Mason's Guild & that cost the good Church father's extra cha ching.
62 posted on 09/13/2006 1:10:03 AM PDT by GoLightly
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I think we need to make a distinction here between Free masons here in the US and in Europe. There are various reason why Catholics cant be Mason and I accept that. However I have many family members that are mason and to be honest it really isnt a cult nor is there a US masonic conspiracy. It is a sad fact in some ways but Masons are dying out as one can tell when one sees the age of the membership at most lodges.

The only kind of Masonic lodges that I am wary of are in Europe for the most part. The famous lodge in Italy for example that was involved in all those monkeyshines. But besides that I think the US bunch are a pretty harmless bunch that in fact do some good work


69 posted on 09/13/2006 2:36:00 AM PDT by catholicfreeper
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Freemasons generally disdain Catholics

Which is funny, since my dad was a Mason with the dads of many of my friends, three of whom were Catholic.

Possibly more, but I can remember three for sure. And somehow I don't recall Dad telling stories of lodge disdain for the trio. Liked 'em well enough to initiate 'em.
71 posted on 09/13/2006 5:49:23 AM PDT by Xenalyte (who is having the best day ever! ouch)
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I see the free-fire zone for the week is the Freemasonry Fraternity.

Well, flame-on.

74 posted on 09/13/2006 5:53:47 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (¡Salga de los Estados Unidos de América, invasor!)
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Tom Clark was Ramsey Clark's father.


75 posted on 09/13/2006 5:53:56 AM PDT by Tribune7
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