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Board policies and rules regarding anti-American Euroist (EU-supporting) posters
8 Septermber 2006 | NZerFromHK

Posted on 09/08/2006 3:03:17 AM PDT by NZerFromHK

The goals of Freerepublic are "to champion causes which further conservatism in America.". I have noticed there are a couple of posters on this forum who are actively promoting another country/supranational organization's (super-)national interests which are opposite of Ameirca national interests. For instance, there is a well-known Euro poster from Spain who, from what he posts and supports, is an ardent and enthusiastic supporter of the anti-American European Union.

Since such posters clearly disagree with the stated goals of this forum as expressed by the founder as "pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-Constitution, pro-Bill of Rights, pro-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense, pro-freedom, and-pro America. We oppose all forms of liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism, wacko environmentalism, judicial activism, etc. We also oppose the United Nations or any other world government body that may attempt to impose its will or rule over our sovereign nation and sovereign people. We believe in defending our borders, our constitution and our national sovereignty.", I'm wondering if they should be given the boot here, or should they be allowed to stay as long as do not disrupt orders of this board here?

Many thanks in advance.


TOPICS: Free Republic Policy/Q&A
KEYWORDS: eu; eurocrat; euroist; europe; europeanunion; euros; jordi

1 posted on 09/08/2006 3:03:18 AM PDT by NZerFromHK
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To: NZerFromHK

Well, in my opinion, it's always been a mistake to purge dissenters. Much better to demolish them with argument. But that isn't exactly the prevailing practice here.


2 posted on 09/08/2006 3:11:19 AM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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To: prion

If I were the webmaster, anyone with different opinions are welcome, but he must be coming to our site, and willing to commit dialogues with our side "in good faith". Since it is apparent many of the Euroist posters are not coming to dialogue but to evangelize, I have my reservations as to whether to extend red mats to them.

But of course I will leave the whole matter for Mr Robinson to decide, since this is his site and we are guests to his forum.


3 posted on 09/08/2006 3:15:31 AM PDT by NZerFromHK (The languages may be dialects, but America is different from the Anglo world due to US Founding.)
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To: NZerFromHK

The important question is not if the europhiles will be booted from FreeRepublic, but if someone can boot them from every position of power in Europe. Democracy and freedom is slowly being lost in Europe - and this only some 15 years after the eastern half of the continent was freed from half a century of subjugation.

When will they ever learn?


4 posted on 09/08/2006 3:23:47 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: ScaniaBoy
As a Brit I would say that anti European views are held across the political spectrum. The most liberal people I know object to the EU.

Some otherwise solid conservatives support it. In my view they are seriously mistaken.

But it is not a litmus test of conservatism still less anti-Americanism. The EU project means different things to different people and has to understood within their overall political thinking.

I want out of the EU. But I would have thought FR is big enough and ugly enough to allow dissenters on this - providing they retain a general conservative, pro-american stance. They may be wrong on this point but they are not enemies.
5 posted on 09/08/2006 3:40:30 AM PDT by vimto (Blighty Awaken!)
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To: NZerFromHK

I'm a Brit and therefore (by geography only) a European.

I understand what the founder of FreeRepublic set up this site for, but I'm sure, as a champion of freedom of expression, he would be in favour (note favOUr - :) ) of a certain amount of lattitude amongst the views expressed, otherwise we would merely be parroting a party line (an accusation commonly made here against liberals).

For example, I am most certainly pro-God, pro-life and pro-family. I can't really comment on the Constitution and the Bill of Rights as I am not a US citizen and don't live under their auspices. Personally I think all attempts to codify "rights" are flawed and doomed to fall short. I am anti-gun, pro-limited government, pro-private property rights, pro-limited taxes, pro-capitalism, pro-national defense and pro-freedom. I can't say I am pro America in the sense that the founder meant. I'm pro-Britain (I hope thats an acceptable alternative!). I oppose liberalism, socialism, fascism, pacifism, totalitarianism, anarchism, government enforced atheism, abortionism, feminism, homosexualism, racism and wacko environmentalism. I can't say I totally oppose all forms of those things. That's a pretty wide remit. I'm in favour of abortion for medical reasons for example. I don't understand completely what is meant by "judicial activism". If it is what I suspect, it's pretty irrelevent in my own particular situation. I have no time for the UN, and not much for any other pan-national organisation (apart from the Red Cross, which is a most excellent body).

Does that mean I should be booted for lack of polical purity? Or be "demolished" by argument? You can try that last incidentally. I'm proud of my beliefs, but I hope I'm more proud of being honest, and that includes being prepared to modify said beliefs after debate. That is, after all, what democracy is about, is it not?


6 posted on 09/08/2006 3:44:40 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: vimto; ScaniaBoy; Vanders9
There could well be some, for example, like this one:

Andy224

But the problem is, we also have people like such who are Euroists and who have zero interests to be supportive of the United States as a nation. This woule be what I consider as an example of a true blue Euroist:

Jordi

7 posted on 09/08/2006 4:55:23 AM PDT by NZerFromHK (The languages may be dialects, but America is different from the Anglo world due to US Founding.)
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To: NZerFromHK
Yep - well as I say, support for the USA seems to me to be a nonnegotiable aspect of FR. I wouldn't dream of posting on it without real affection for America and the Angloshere free world. If someone wants a strong EU but wants it to be US friendly I see no problem at all. Their heart is in the right place - I think they are deluded but since when has that been a sticking point? If they want an EU power for it's own sake then I cannot see why they bother posting on FR, they would surely be out of sympathy with the vast majority of posters.
8 posted on 09/08/2006 8:01:56 AM PDT by vimto (Blighty Awaken!)
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To: Vanders9

"...I'm sure, as a champion of freedom of expression, he would be in favour (note favOUr - :) ) of a certain amount of lattitude amongst the views expressed..."

I think being unable to spell FAVOR correctly should be grounds for dismissal!! Seriesly! LOL


9 posted on 09/08/2006 9:30:09 AM PDT by Owl558 (Pardon my spelling)
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To: NZerFromHK

Are they engaging in debate or merely spewing propaganda ad-nauseum? If the former is the case, let them stay.


10 posted on 09/08/2006 9:40:42 AM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: lesser_satan

Apparently, the answer is no for pople like the second Freeper I linked above - a certain individual who comes from Spain and puts the European Union flag as his "national home" flag.


11 posted on 09/09/2006 12:14:19 AM PDT by NZerFromHK (The languages may be dialects, but America is different from the Anglo world due to US Founding.)
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