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The Hobbit Hole XXXI - Mawwage is what bwings us togethew today!
http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ ^ | Sept 7 2006

Posted on 09/07/2006 10:11:42 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Mawwage is what bwings us togethew today!

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: RosieCotton

We'd have shown her off :~)


6,441 posted on 11/24/2006 4:22:24 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

She's unique. ;-)

We have mass turmoil going on over here, because I decided to wash the couch cover. Had to shift all three critters, and they're all confused as to what to do about it.


6,442 posted on 11/24/2006 4:25:44 PM PST by RosieCotton (NaNoWriMo: 40006/50,000)
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To: RosieCotton

It doesn't take much to upset the balance of an ecosystem ;~).


6,443 posted on 11/24/2006 4:27:10 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

I'm not sure what it says about us when the center of our ecosystem is thecouch...


6,444 posted on 11/24/2006 4:28:52 PM PST by RosieCotton (NaNoWriMo: 40006/50,000)
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To: SuziQ
Warned me, you did.
6,445 posted on 11/24/2006 4:45:19 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.com)
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To: Corin Stormhands; 2Jedismom; g'nad; GulfWar1Vet; JenB; Rose in RoseBear; RosieCotton; 300winmag; ...
Grist for the mill: Source: Scotsman.com News - Saying 'no' to Gandalf cost Sir Sean up to £225 million

The Scotsman Sat 25 Nov 2006 Sir Sean Connery, with his wife, Micheline. It...

Sir Sean Connery, with his wife, Micheline. It is not known if he now regrets turning down the lucrative part.
Picture: Kevin Winter/Getty Images

Saying 'no' to Gandalf cost Sir Sean up to £225 million

STEPHEN MCGINTY

SEAN Connery turned down the largest paycheck in cinema history when he refused an offer to play Gandalf in the Lord of the Rings trilogy, it has emerged.

If the actor had put on the long white beard and clasped the wizard's staff as the hero of Middle Earth he would have earned as much as £225 million.

Peter Jackson, the director of the fantasy trilogy, has revealed that New Line Cinema, the production company behind the films, offered the Scottish actor between 10 and 15 per cent of worldwide box office takings to secure his participation.

A copy of the script was delivered to the actor in 1999 and the lucrative offer was put to CAA, the agency that manages him.

However Sir Sean turned the offer down as he did not understand the complicated plot of J.R.R. Tolkien's fantasy masterpiece.

If he had accepted the terms of the contract, which included a small fee but a large chunk of the film's future earnings, he would have earned more from a single screen role than any actor in the history of motion pictures.

The three films in the trilogy, The Fellowship of the Ring (2000), The Two Towers (2001) and The Return of the King (2002), earned a total of £1.5 billion at the box office, which would have meant the former Bond actor would have earned between £150 million and £225 million.

The fee would have dwarfed the £23 million earned by Jack Nicholson under a similar deal for his role as The Joker in Batman, released in 1989.

The offer, which had previously remained confidential, was revealed in a new biography of Mr Jackson, entitled A Film-Maker's Journey by Brian Sibley.

In the book, Mr Jackson explained that he was under pressure from the producers to cast Sir Sean in the role, which eventually went to Sir Ian McKellen who was later nominated for an Academy Award for his performance.

Mr Jackson explained: "New Line were indicating that having a major name like Connery was necessary in order for them to green-light the film. They asked us if we would agree to send a copy of the Fellowship screenplay to Sean with a view to enticing him to play Gandalf.

"I couldn't imagine him wanting to spend eighteen months in New Zealand, and I didn't think they could afford his fee, but [Mark] Ordesky [the film's executive producer] told me New Line were going to offer a small fee in exchange for a large slice of the gross.

"Mark said New Line was prepared to give him between 10 per cent and 15 per cent of the films' income. Some kind of offer must have gone in because in April 1999 the script was bundled off to Sean who read it - and declined the role."

At the time rumours swept through New Zealand that Sir Sean was taking the role and there were a number of fictitious sightings of the Scotsman.

The director said he had been concerned that despite the actor's ability, his fame would eclipse the role. Mr Jackson explained: "I felt Gandalf would take on a Sean Connery persona, with a long beard and robe."

Last year Sir Sean explained his decision to turn down the role: "Yeah, well, I never understood it. I read the book, I read the script, I saw the movie. I still don't understand it. I would be interested in doing something that I don't fully understand, but not for eighteen months."

Last night, the book's author Mr Sibley said: "I don't know if Sean Connery regrets not taking the role. I suspect not as he clearly did not warm to the material, but you can imagine him in the role; he would have brought a different strength and charisma.

Mr Jackson this week upset fans of Middle Earth by stating that he would not be directing The Hobbit, the prequel to The Lord of The Rings. The director is in dispute with New Line over earnings he believes he is still due from the sales of DVD and computer games based on the trilogy. It is understood that he has earned £103 million from the films.

THE ONES THAT GOT AWAY

THIS is far from the first time an actor has rejected what turned out to be a blockbuster role.

• Sean Connery spurned the part of Captain Von Trapp in The Sound of Music. It went to Christopher Plummer.

• Julia Roberts rejected the starring role in Basic Instinct and Sharon Stone got it instead.

• Tom Selleck turned down the Indiana Jones role in Raiders of the Lost Ark because he could not get out of the TV series Magnum. The second choice, Harrison Ford, became a superstar.

• Gene Hackman said no to the role of Hannibal Lecter in Silence of the Lambs. Anthony Hopkins then got the part.

• Michelle Pfeiffer backed out of the role of agent Clarice Starling in the same film. As a result, Jodie Foster landed one of her biggest hits.

• George Raft turned down the role of hard-boiled private eye Sam Spade in the John Huston classic The Maltese Falcon, so giving Humphrey Bogart the role that kick-started his career.

• Al Pacino rejected the role of Elliot Ness in The Untouchables, leaving it to Kevin Costner to take over the job.

• Sylvester Stallone and Clint Eastwood both turned down Beverly Hills Cop - the part of Axel Foley went to wise-cracking Eddie Murphy instead.

6,446 posted on 11/24/2006 6:29:08 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
"The director said he had been concerned that despite the actor's ability, his fame would eclipse the role."

Agreed. He'd have been good, but sometimes things work out for the best.

6,447 posted on 11/24/2006 6:36:29 PM PST by Sam Cree (don't mix alcopops and ufo's - absolute reality)
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To: Sam Cree

Agreed. Ian made it Gandalf. Sean would have made Gandalf Connery. It's all for the best that none of the actors were bigger than their roles.


6,448 posted on 11/24/2006 6:38:58 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog

I like Connery lots...but I don't think he could have pulled off Gandalf. It might have been amusing had he tried...but not the same...heh.

In other news...my dryer no longer dries. Only tumbles. No heat.

Speaking of ecosystems, I shoulda known that bringing a decent desk into the place was going to upset the equilibrium and require one of the few working appliances to give up the ghost.


6,449 posted on 11/24/2006 6:46:19 PM PST by RosieCotton (NaNoWriMo: 40006/50,000)
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To: RosieCotton

Well, the dryer had already had problems. If you can find one @ craigslist, we'll help go get it. We'll just want to be a little more sure it's not going to rain.


6,450 posted on 11/24/2006 6:48:13 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Sam Cree
Agreed. He'd have been good, but sometimes things work out for the best.

Anybody who didn't understand the book should not have been let within a thousand miles of the movie. New Line should be thankful that they didn't have to give away a large piece of the movie. More money for them, which is what Jackson is still trying to have audited.

6,451 posted on 11/24/2006 6:49:20 PM PST by 300winmag (Overkill never fails)
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To: HairOfTheDog

At least the door is already off this time... ;-)

In any case, if you guys *do* do that dump run sometime in the near future...if you have room for this one, I guess I should take it. I'm sure it *could* be fixed, but it's probably not worth what it would take.

Not much on Craigslist. This one is a little pricier than I'm hoping for, but it does look small-ish and almost new.
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/hsh/238348566.html


6,452 posted on 11/24/2006 6:50:56 PM PST by RosieCotton (NaNoWriMo: 40006/50,000)
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To: RosieCotton

I don't think it's pricey at all, it's a lot newer than the old one.

Let us know... and yeah - we can take the old one to the dump.


6,453 posted on 11/24/2006 6:53:57 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
Who do you think was the best known actor in that? Agent Smith maybe, or perhaps Blanchett? Not that I'd ever heard of her.


6,454 posted on 11/24/2006 6:56:25 PM PST by Sam Cree (don't mix alcopops and ufo's - absolute reality)
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To: HairOfTheDog; RosieCotton; Overtaxed
Titanic is on TNT. I don't want tuh miss muh favorite part...


6,455 posted on 11/24/2006 6:56:56 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.com)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Well...I sent an e-mail at least asking if it's available.


6,456 posted on 11/24/2006 6:58:03 PM PST by RosieCotton (NaNoWriMo: 40006/50,000)
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To: Sam Cree

Agreed, I think at the time, 'Agent Smith' was the only one people thought of as someone else.


6,457 posted on 11/24/2006 6:59:02 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Corin Stormhands
*snif*

That's just beautiful.

Step on his head, Rose - quick!

6,458 posted on 11/24/2006 7:01:41 PM PST by RosieCotton (NaNoWriMo: 40006/50,000)
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To: 300winmag

Although I read that the guy who played Elijah Woods never read the book either. He did a great job anyway, IMO, except for a couple things. But I'm bemused to read that Connery didn't "understand" LOTR. I don't understand that!


6,459 posted on 11/24/2006 7:10:00 PM PST by Sam Cree (don't mix alcopops and ufo's - absolute reality)
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To: Corin Stormhands

Did you forget to keep it charged?


6,460 posted on 11/24/2006 7:31:58 PM PST by SuziQ
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