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The Hobbit Hole XXXI - Mawwage is what bwings us togethew today!
http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ ^ | Sept 7 2006

Posted on 09/07/2006 10:11:42 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Mawwage is what bwings us togethew today!

New verse:

Upon the hearth the fire is red,
Beneath the roof there is a bed;
But not yet weary are our feet,
Still round the corner we may meet
A sudden tree or standing stone
That none have seen but we alone.
Tree and flower and leaf and grass,
Let them pass! Let them pass!
Hill and water under sky,
Pass them by! Pass them by!

Still round the corner there may wait
A new road or a secret gate,
And though we pass them by today,
Tomorrow we may come this way
And take the hidden paths that run
Towards the Moon or to the Sun.
Apple, thorn, and nut and sloe,
Let them go! Let them go!
Sand and stone and pool and dell,
Fare you well! Fare you well!

Home is behind, the world ahead,
And there are many paths to tread
Through shadows to the edge of night,
Until the stars are all alight.
Then world behind and home ahead,
We’ll wander back to home and bed.
Mist and twilight, cloud and shade,
Away shall fade! Away shall fade!
Fire and lamp, and meat and bread,
And then to bed! And then to bed!

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To: Ramius
*sigh*

To say that the clients for which I currently do support have no centralized update system would be an understatement. So I'm really kind of dreading the final release. It's supposed to get pushed out via Windows Updates, and though it'll prompt, I know some of the users too well to think they'll ask before accepting. And IE7 looks enough different to freak people out if they *do* accept.

It's going to be ugly, I'm sure. We've offered to install the blocker, but since these are clients and not users under our jurisdiction, it's not like we can force it.

Maybe I'll get some billable hours when people who installed it don't want it.

So there's that.
3,741 posted on 10/26/2006 7:30:03 PM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: RosieCotton

We've only had the SUS (systems update server) for a little over a year. Yeah... companywide deployments before that were a sincere pain in the asterisk. I know what you mean.

Active Directory, group policies and SUS have been a real nice thing. No doubt about that. Patches... updates... whatnot... even new apps can be just pushed right on out.

I know we could have been using SMS all this time, but I've just always choked at the price before. I wish I'd pushed harder for it years ago and just bitten the bullet. Centralized management is just too good to not do if you can.

Your situation is of course quite different. But billable hours ~are~ billable hours. :-)


3,742 posted on 10/26/2006 7:49:53 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: Ramius; RosieCotton
Did something go really bad wrong during yours, I take it?

My Internet provider is JUNO. JUNO and IE7 are not good marriage prospects. I couldn't connect to the Internet most of the time, when I could connect it made my 56K dial-up modem fell like 300 BAUD (Shudder)! When it did connect it took more than 5 minutes just to reach my Email, which is an Internet based Email! It would lock up the computer, which is a 3400 Athalon, with 1 GB of RAM and a 200 GB hard-drive, so that I had to cold boot it just to turn it off!

3,743 posted on 10/26/2006 8:01:12 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (These days you are either nervous and uncomfortable or you are braindead!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Well, I don't know if Juno is the issue. Shouldn't be... though... as a networking sort of dude I think I would recommend a first or second-tier provider instead of a reseller. If you're on DSL, get it from whoever is the last mile provider, Qwest, Centurytel, whatever. Or cable. That way, you're only one hop to the Internet instead of two or three.

I'm guessing that the problem was the install, and maybe some issues with your particular hardware and/or drivers. I'm getting recall of one of our guys that did an install of an RC2 (release candidate, supposedly gold code) version of IE7 in beta testing that did some pretty unkind things to his system. IIRC is was a pretty specific combination of certain drivers on particular hardware that hadn't cleared the barf test. Surely, some of those still happen in the gold code and the release version. Given the only slightly sub-infinite combinations of man-moment-machine, those things are bound to happen.

I dunno. Wait for some driver updates for your system maybe before giving it another try. Or just don't do it. That's always an option. :-)

IMHO. Your mileage may vary. Consult your physician to decide if this medication is right for you. Professional drivers on a closed track. Do not try this at home.


3,744 posted on 10/26/2006 8:25:38 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: Ramius
Or just don't do it. That's always an option. :-)

Works for me for now. It took them 6 years or whatever to come up with this version, I can wait!

Thanks for the assist!

3,745 posted on 10/26/2006 8:45:09 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (These days you are either nervous and uncomfortable or you are braindead!)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
It took them 6 years or whatever to come up with this version, I can wait!

Hehehe... yah. I've been on a career-long love/hate abusive codependent relationship with Brother Bill's Travelling Salvation Show.

Though, I gotta admit. Windows XP is just plain the single most solid OS ever made, especially considering the myriad of platforms and vagueries of millions of peripherals they have to support. And I'm an original Macintosh devotee. It really was quite an accomplishment.

And as good as the Novell Directory Service was, I couldn't wait to dump Netware for Windows NT (then, v. 3.51). Sure, Active Directory is a total ripoff of what NDS was doing ten years ago... but AD is ~administrable~ in ways that NDS itself was always just a total PITA.

It could be said that Novell's only problem is that they were just a little too early on the curve. Novell could have ~owned~ networking if only they'd not been so good at something that could so obviously be made easier, and they failed at the interface level. The early iterations of NT were way sub-par to Netware's deeper features, but they were not just easier to use, they were easier to tie back to other legacy systems. Slam, bang, done. Netware is out and NT 3.51 is in.

NT 4.0 was a really competent follow-on to 3.51 and it sealed the deal.

3,746 posted on 10/26/2006 9:12:44 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: Ramius
You're way over my head with the OS stuff, I'm just a fourth generation language applications programmer, using the SAS system to be specific!
3,747 posted on 10/26/2006 9:20:15 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (These days you are either nervous and uncomfortable or you are braindead!)
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To: Ramius
Though, I gotta admit. Windows XP is just plain the single most solid OS ever made, especially considering the myriad of platforms and vagueries of millions of peripherals they have to support.

When you consider the tens of thousands of applications, the combinations of hardware and software are mind-boggling. And it sorta works most of the time.

I don't worship at the feet of Microsoft, but I don't see anybody spending billions of dollars to build a better operating system mousetrap.

3,748 posted on 10/26/2006 11:35:34 PM PDT by 300winmag (Overkill never fails)
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To: Ramius

Microsoft has really standardized things and, Linux-worshippers aside, that's pretty much a good thing. I can help my grandmother debug her computer, get files from anyone anywhere, and go from one job to another without having to spend a week just learning their computers. And that's cool.

It's also Friday and that's cooler.


3,749 posted on 10/27/2006 5:41:17 AM PDT by JenB
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To: JenB

Mmmm...Friday...


3,750 posted on 10/27/2006 6:22:03 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear

I found it interesting because the law is similar to what I *think* we have here in Oklahoma. Except I really didn't know if it was a law any where. So when I stumbled on that bit of info, even though it's from VA, it made me feel optimistic that we might have something like that here in OK.

Good morning!

~sip~

The weather looks imposing! I hope it clears off before Steve gets home at lunchtime!


3,751 posted on 10/27/2006 6:36:16 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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To: JenB; RosieCotton

Good morning young ladies.

Jen, how ya doing? I thought I was gonna die in the night...had a real rough time.

But I finally got to sleep, sometime after four AM and slept till Joshua woke me up at 8am.

My throat is really raw from being sick and just from the act of coughing, so the coffee is especially good this morning.


3,752 posted on 10/27/2006 6:44:03 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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hehehe
3,753 posted on 10/27/2006 6:54:14 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: Bear_in_RoseBear; Corin Stormhands
Got this just now!!

Dear Kim,

You may use a plate from 1970. What you need is a Vintage Decal. A Vintage Decal is displayed on the front windshield and allows you to display a plate that is at least 21 years old and is not currently assigned to another vehicle. The plate must be in the original colors. The correct colors for a 1970 plate is green letters on a reflective white background. A vintage plate is in addition to your regular registration plate and expires on a calendar year basis. I have attached a copy of the Vintage Decal Application to this email.


3,754 posted on 10/27/2006 7:07:09 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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To: 2Jedismom

Cool! So you just need to check that it is not assigned to another car.


3,755 posted on 10/27/2006 7:11:06 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ

Right!

I'm going to keep an eye out on Ebay...wait till I find the perfect one.


3,756 posted on 10/27/2006 7:20:47 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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To: 2Jedismom; RosieCotton; JenB; TalonDJ; Lil'freeper; HairOfTheDog; All

~mornin'~

I heard Nana go downstairs during the middle of the night. She told me this morning that her room was too hot and it made her ankle hurt.

I explained they were not likely to be related, and adusted the heating vent in her room.


3,757 posted on 10/27/2006 7:25:37 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.com)
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To: Rose in RoseBear; JenB; RosieCotton; TalonDJ; Lil'freeper; Overtaxed; HairOfTheDog

***ponders not doing Nanowrimo***

~sip~


3,758 posted on 10/27/2006 7:26:18 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.com)
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To: Corin Stormhands
***ponders not doing Nanowrimo***

That's the healthiest thing I've heard you say all week :~)

~sip~

3,759 posted on 10/27/2006 7:30:47 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: TalonDJ

LOL!

That's great!


3,760 posted on 10/27/2006 7:32:56 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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