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John Mark Karr--DNA NOT A MATCH--DA will not press charges
WIOD--SCHNITT SHOW | today | SCHNITT

Posted on 08/28/2006 12:37:23 PM PDT by Fawn

Schnitt just announced the breaking news. The DNA for JM Karr is NOT a match for Jon Benet evidence.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: boulderpdisclueless; burkedidit; childpredator; classenvy; crackpot; dna; duh; familydidit; iknewitallalong; ishotreagan; johnmarkkarr; jonbenet; karr; mentallyill; nosurprise; nutjob; ojdiditagain; ramsey; thailand; themomkillerher; theparentsdidit; theparentsdidnotdoit; wrongguy
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To: daylate-dollarshort
Patsy surely is a better suspect than Karr ever was. In addition to the paintbrush, there was the cordage used to bind JonBenet, the duct tape found at the scene, the pad that supplied the paper for the ransom note etc. All were in the home prior to the murder and further, all were bought by the Ramsey's. The duct tape, the cordage and brush were bought by Patsy at McGuckin's (sp.?) hardware in Boulder. The receipt was found in the house.

644 posted on 08/28/2006 7:38:59 PM MDT by daylate-dollarshort

The Boulder DAs office will continue to pin this on someone other than the Ramseys

The Peoples Republic of Boulder is owned and operated by the Democrat/Marxist Party.

Check out a list of the guest's at the Christmas party.
Only the Boulder "A" list including the CU Professors
and the Party leaders including the DA's office were
present in the house when JBR was brutally murdered
by one of the guests or the owner


681 posted on 08/29/2006 7:32:43 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 144:1 Praise be to YHvH, my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.)
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To: frogjerk

>>>Wasn't it also stated that the DNA found in the (new) panties could have come from Inspector #5?>>>

So let's track down this 'inspector #5' and ask them nicely for a DNA sample.


682 posted on 08/29/2006 7:40:05 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: Houmatt

>>>Now, I think you owe us an apology.>>>

They don't owe you crap. Just because JMK did not kill JBR doesn't mean that the parents did either.


683 posted on 08/29/2006 7:40:52 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: sandbar
So let's track down this 'inspector #5' and ask them nicely for a DNA sample.

But first we need to get him out of a Thai jail cell.

684 posted on 08/29/2006 7:41:08 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: 1L
There was absolutely no evidence that they were the least bit involved.

"And if you go chasing rabbits
And you know you're going to fall,
Tell 'em a hookah smoking caterpillar
Has given you the call.
Call Alice
When she was just small."

685 posted on 08/29/2006 7:45:59 AM PDT by Houmatt (Democrats eat urinal cakes.)
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To: sandbar
They don't owe you crap. Just because JMK did not kill JBR doesn't mean that the parents did either.

Dude (assuming you are), you should not be spouting off if you don't know what you are talking about. Ignorance is not always bliss.

There was absolutely nothing connecting Karr to JonBenet's murder. The same cannot be said for her parents, and if you believe otherwise, then you also probably think the moon is made of green cheese.

I said MAWG owes us an apology for vigorously pointing and going, "See? You see? I told you they did not do it!" Now, it turns out Karr is really little more than a kiddy porn connoisseur.

I even had some guy e-mail me in the wake of Karr's BS confession, citing something I posted here as if to say, "Well, what do you say now?" Both individuals were proven wrong. What they need to do is admit they were wrong, and apologize to us for their decision to jump to conclusions before the evidence came in and try to rub our noses in it.

686 posted on 08/29/2006 8:02:09 AM PDT by Houmatt (Democrats eat urinal cakes.)
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To: Houmatt
" What a load of crap .....raped with a paintbrush therefore parents didnt do it. etc........... "

How did the sliver of wood from the paintbrush get in to her vagina? Explain that one. This is a crucial piece of evidence that was being withheld until the M.E. from Phoenix blurted it out on national T.V.It has nothing to do with faith, Hon. It's all about forensic evidence. ANSWER the question: WHICH OF THE PARENTS RAPED HER WITH THE PAINTBRUSH AND WHY WAS IT NECESSARY? This is a significant and critical turn in this case.

As far as your other RIDICULOUS assertions, I never said I thought Karr was guilty of this crime. I felt he was a fraud from the beginning and said so on this thread. But, the fact that he didn't do it does not change the case. Do you honestly believe that because Karr is innocent of this crime that automatically proves the Ramseys did it?

" I think you owe us an apology."

I think you need to change your medication.

687 posted on 08/29/2006 8:04:11 AM PDT by MAWG
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To: Rte66

I am then, misinformed.

I thought Patsy was aware and participating in the communique's, before her death.

Thanks for providing the proper information.


688 posted on 08/29/2006 8:33:20 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (PARTY LIKE IT's August 21, 2006 !!!)
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To: MAWG
Do you honestly believe that because Karr is innocent of this crime that automatically proves the Ramseys did it?

No, you git. I have always thought they were responsible for the crime. And even if they're not, they know damned good and well who did. Karr did not write that ransom note. And it was not the Funky Phantom, either.

As for your unwillingness to apologize, I am not surprised. If DNA evidence had matched, proving Karr was responsible, I would have been first in line to say I was wrong about the Ramseys. You can take that to the bank.

I never said I thought Karr was guilty of this crime.

But you sure as hell wanted it to be the case: I hope that it does and this 10 year nightmare is over.

And now that it's not? Are you going to continue to pretend the Ramseys are 100% blameless in this matter? Since all you can see is a paintbrush and you live in a fairy tale land where parents never sexually abuse or mutilate their own children, I would wager the answer to be yes.

689 posted on 08/29/2006 8:50:24 AM PDT by Houmatt (Democrats eat urinal cakes.)
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To: Dianna
Did I say lock him up JUST BECAUSE I don't like him? No.

Yes. Not in those exact words, but yes. That is what you said.

We've got his DNA, we know he's weird, we know where he has lived, we know places that he has worked.

WE don't have anything. Law enforcement authorities have his DNA and the rest. As for his being weird, millions of people in this world are weird. There are people on these JBR threads who have followed the case as closely, if not more so, that Karr. But, of course, you have not seen them personally and so can't form a judgement as to where they fall on the weirdness scale.

Run the DNA through databases, look into unsolved cases and maybe we'll find that he's progressed beyond pictures.

Within legal limits, I have no doubt law enforcement authorities have done this. But there is a limit to how far the government can go to harass someone against whom there is zero evidence of his having committed any felonious crime.

Karr will come back to my home state of California to face his five MISDEMEANOR charges of possession of child porn, plus whatever additional charges are added because he skipped. Beyond that, we should all leave this pathetic loser alone and let him slip back into anonymity.

690 posted on 08/29/2006 8:51:37 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: Rte66
That's why I was glad I found a good group of people (except for a few bad apples) to bounce it off of when I started looking around online about it.

I guess we all need some kind of hobby, but I'd be careful if I were you. Some twit like Tracey might just begin to think you're obssessed with the case, decide you killed her, and point law enforcement in your direction.

691 posted on 08/29/2006 8:55:14 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: XeniaSt
She certainly did write the random note.

There is no conclusive proof of that
Please post your source

692 posted on 08/29/2006 9:00:00 AM PDT by apackof2 (They wait on you hand and foot so they can charge you an arm and a leg)
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To: mwl1; onyx
Karr won't be charged with anything, anywhere

He has just been released from custody in Boulder. Were CA folks waiting for him? Nope, none that I know of.

Amid a sequence of failed communication, Karr nearly walked away from the entire fiasco. He had already been taken to court when deputies learned no local charges would be filed. After checking a national computer database and finding no requests to detain Karr, officers released him.

In the meantime, Californian officials had logged on to the national database, requesting that he be held pending extradition.

Karr was still with investigators from the district attorney's office when the request was noticed and he was rearrested.

693 posted on 08/29/2006 9:14:29 AM PDT by apackof2 (They wait on you hand and foot so they can charge you an arm and a leg)
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To: apackof2

>>>Amid a sequence of failed communication, Karr nearly walked away from the entire fiasco. He had already been taken to court when deputies learned no local charges would be filed. After checking a national computer database and finding no requests to detain Karr, officers released him.

In the meantime, Californian officials had logged on to the national database, requesting that he be held pending extradition.

Karr was still with investigators from the district attorney's office when the request was noticed and he was rearrested.>>>

This is all so laughable. Jeez.


694 posted on 08/29/2006 9:15:12 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: sandbar
This is all so laughable. Jeez.

At least he is off the streets

695 posted on 08/29/2006 9:16:52 AM PDT by apackof2 (They wait on you hand and foot so they can charge you an arm and a leg)
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To: apackof2
XS>She certainly did write the random note.

There is no conclusive proof of that

Please post your source

692 posted on 08/29/2006 10:00:00 AM MDT by apackof2

Have you read the note?

Do you understand that the note contained information that was only known to Patsy?

The note says don't contact anyone; the Ramsey than invited all there friends over to the house.

etc.....


696 posted on 08/29/2006 9:20:55 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 144:1 Praise be to YHvH, my Rock, who trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle.)
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To: Houmatt
What I said was" It really doesn't matter to me if the dna matches or not.I hope that it does and this 10 year nightmare is over." I really dont care who did it, I would just like to see the case solved. I like to think that we are smarter than the criminals. In the beginning , I felt the Parents were involved also, primarily John. I NEVER believed Patsy did it. Then , slowly, the evidence started coming out and we got to see the Autopsy Report. That changed it for me. And then I saw the autopsy pics and I knew this was the work of a sexual predator.

You believe that the Ramseys, Patsy, accidentally killed Jonbenet and tried to cover it up, thus the ransom letter and the whole kidnapping scenario. The forensic evidence doesn't support this but never mind that. If that is the case then you still have to answer the question " WHICH ONE OF THE PARENTS RAPED HER WITH A PAINTBRUSH AND WHY DID THEY FEEL IT WAS NECESSARY TO DO THIS?"

" Are you still going to pretend the Ramseys are 100% blameless?"

I'm not pretending anything. I'm just going where the evidence takes me. You on the other hand refuse to consider any evidence that doesn't fit with what you already believe. You're not very smart and certainly not well read. Talking with you is not only boring but a waste of my time.

697 posted on 08/29/2006 9:27:02 AM PDT by MAWG
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To: apackof2


Rearrested. Good. Thanks for the information and the ping.


698 posted on 08/29/2006 9:39:17 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" 10% are fundamentalists, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: apackof2

have you seen the side by side photos of the note, and her exemplar? remember that this is an inexact science, sothe term "conclusive proof" isn't going to materialize. have you seen the side by side comparison? before this recent Karr case, I had never seen it myself - but I have now.


699 posted on 08/29/2006 9:42:51 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: MAWG
What I said was" It really doesn't matter to me if the dna matches or not.I hope that it does and this 10 year nightmare is over."

I know what you said. I know what you meant. When you said the latter you were thinking (but not saying) for the Ramseys. Who the hell else could you be talking about? People living in flyover country? Most of them don't care about it anymore; they have accepted the fact due to the gross imcompetence of the Boulder PD and the DA the case will never be solved. Now, people are more worried about the borders and terrorism.

You believe that the Ramseys, Patsy, accidentally killed Jonbenet and tried to cover it up, thus the ransom letter and the whole kidnapping scenario.

That's not what I said. I never once used the word "accidentally" in this context with you or anyone else. What I HAVE said is, (and I'll say it again, since it is obvious you have not been paying attention the last three times I did so) the Ramseys are responsible for JonBenet's death. If they did not do it themselves, they know who did.

The forensic evidence doesn't support this but never mind that.

What forensic evidence are you talking about? For someone who seems to know so damned much about the crime you certainly seem to be forgetting the crime scene was so hopelessly contaminated because the Boulder PD failed to seal the house off to friends, neighbors and media the team on CSI could not have gotten anything. The only thing that points to the possibility of someone outside the family is some DNA found on JonBenet's underwear.

WHICH ONE OF THE PARENTS RAPED HER WITH A PAINTBRUSH AND WHY DID THEY FEEL IT WAS NECESSARY TO DO THIS?

I don't know. Why do parents sexually abuse and mutilate their children at all? Again, I don't know. But then again, perhaps I am not the one you should be asking.

I'm not pretending anything. I'm just going where the evidence takes me.

Yeah. You have parents who, upon finding their dead child, call a lawyer. Then they leave town and refuse to be questioned by authorities unless they are together and the questions are submitted in advance, in writing.

Yeah! All of this is perfectly normal, rational behavior. Why, couples do this all the time!

Bravo.

Sierra.

And by the way, I find it insulting that you would imply I am stupid because I do not agree with your assessment. As much as I hate to break this to you, NOBODY HAS TO AGREE WITH YOU! If you think they do, then it is not me that has to change their meds.

700 posted on 08/29/2006 10:12:05 AM PDT by Houmatt (Democrats eat urinal cakes.)
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