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A Racy Twist for "Survivor" [Whites vs. Blacks vs. Asians vs. Hispanics]
E! Online via Yahoo! ^ | Wednesday, August 23, 2006 | Gina Serpe

Posted on 08/23/2006 5:06:13 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon

Some may call it exploiting racial tensions. CBS calls it darn good television.

Jeff Probst popped in on The Early Show Wednesday morning, confirming the reports that the 20 castaways for Survivor: Cook Islands will be grouped by race, with competitors divided into four tribes consisting of whites, blacks, Asians and Hispanics.

Apparently, "separate but equal" holds only the warmest of connotations for Mark Burnett.

Like a good host, Probst had nothing but praise for the producers' controversial brainchild, calling the exercise in segregation a valuable social experiment, rather than a stunt to dig up some controversy--and raise ratings.

"The idea for this actually came from the criticism that Survivor was not ethnically diverse enough, because for whatever reason, we always have a low number of minority applicants apply for the show," Probst said.

"So we set out and said, 'Let's turn this criticism into creative for the show.' And I think it fits perfectly with what Survivor does, which is, it is a social experiment. And this is adding another layer to that experiment, which is taking the show to a completely different level."

Different level, yes. Good level, still to be determined.

"If I had been a producer of this show, it is not an idea I would have come up with or given approval to," Robert Thompson, director of the Center for the Study of Popular Television at Syracuse University, told E! Online. "It's like a return back to segregated leagues in sports. The unseemly interest this will invite certainly is not worth the dramatic elements it's going to bring."

"To the less-than-open minded person, it is very easy to trash us," Burnett explained to Entertainment Weekly. "But we're smart enough to not make it negative. We're smart enough to have gotten rid of every racist person in casting."

Though more to the point, the producers haven't and can't weed out every racially sensitive person in their audience who may take offense to the seemingly archaic, and potentially socially irresponsible, division.

While the 43-year-old host admitted that the players themselves had "mixed reactions" to the racial separation, he made clear that the division was not meant to incite any controversy, add to the tension during the competition or simply be viewed as a gimmick.

"Our original idea was simply to have the most ethnically diverse group of people on TV. It wasn't until we got to casting and started noticing this theme of ethnic pride that we started thinking, 'Wow, if culture is still playing such a big part in these people's lives, that's our idea. Let's divide them based on ethnicity,' " he said.

Though not everyone is as excited about the idea as Probst and his Survivor crew.

"It sounds like a gimmick a lot of people are going to have real issues as to the taste of," Thompson said.

Referencing Burnett's previous experiments on Survivor and The Apprentice to divide teams by boys vs. girls and, more recently on the latter, by street smarts vs. book smarts, Thompson said that "these things don't often work so well in less dicey situations."

And any publicity is good publicity, right?

"As far as getting some attention, getting it talked about again, this'll do it," Thompson said. "Survivor is a great game. It's the gold standard of reality TV. But nobody seems to talk about it anymore."

Or watch it.

Survivor: Cook Islands will be the reality show's 13th installment and comes on the heels of the least watched season in the series' history. Despite garnering an Emmy nod for Best Reality Competition, Survivor: Panama--Exile Island, which split the tribes based on gender and age, averaged a franchise-low 16.8 million viewers. Hence the latest drastic measure.

CBS Entertainment president Nina Tassler told EW that while she was hesitant to give the go-ahead on the "risky idea," she finally relented, saying it was the logical next step in "a show that explores social politics."

"It's not just 18 white people," Probst told the magazine. "Suddenly you have new slang, new rituals--people doing things like making fire in ways that haven't been done on Survivor. I think we have a season where people will say you can never go back to what you were before."

It's not the first time a primetime reality show has flirted with race, though it will be the first time one follows through.

Last year, Donald Trump hinted that The Apprentice was toying with the idea of dividing his two teams by race, only to backtrack on the notion when backlash started up, saying "I personally don't like it, so it will never happen."

Survivor: Cook Islands kicks off Sept. 14. Here's a list of the competitors:

* Rebecca Borman, 24, makeup artist, Laurelton, New York

* Anh-Tuan "Cao Boi" Bui, 42, nail salon manager, Christiansburg, Virginia

* Sekou Bunch, 45, jazz musician, Los Angeles

* J.P. Calderon, 30, pro volleyball player, Marina Del Rey, California

* Cristina Coria, 35, police officer, Los Angeles

* Stephannie Favor, 35, nursing student, Columbia, South Carolina

* Billy Garcia, 36, heavy metal guitarist, New York City

* Adam Gentry, 28, copier sales, San Diego

* Nathan Gonzalez, 26, retail sales, Los Angeles

* Jenny Guzon-Bae, 36, real estate agent, Lake Forest, Illinois

* Yul Kwon, 31, management consultant, San Mateo, California

* Becky Lee, 28, attorney, Washington, D.C.

* Oscar "Ozzy" Lusth, 25, waiter, Venice, California

* Cecilia Mansilla, 29, technology risk consultant, Oakland

* Sundra Oakley, 31, actress, Los Angeles

* Jonathan Penner, 44, writer/producer, Los Angeles

* Parvati Shallow, 23, boxer/waitress, Los Angeles

* Jessica Smith, 27, performance artist/rollergirl, Chico, California

* Brad Virata, 29, fashion director, Los Angeles

* Candice Woodcock, 23, premed student, Fayetteville, North Carolina


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: asian; asians; black; blacks; cbs; hispanic; hispanics; justplainwrong; race; racism; racist; racy; segregation; sick; survivor; tribes; twist; twisted; viacom; white; whites; wrong
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To: linear

61 posted on 08/24/2006 5:05:36 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon ("...with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.")
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To: mhking
Just damn. This is just plain retarded.

Greetings mhking!

Are you still running the Just Damn! ping list?

62 posted on 08/24/2006 5:09:32 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon ("...with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
I've watched every SURVIVOR episode; it's a great show.

Until now. With this atrocity, the show has self-destructed.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU Dr. Eckleburg for being a voice of reason on this thread!

63 posted on 08/24/2006 5:16:12 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon ("...with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world.")
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To: Momaw Nadon; P-Marlowe; xzins; blue-duncan
I saw Leo Terrell screaming on some talk show yesterday about this. I've disagreed with just about everything that man has ever said, but he was 100% correct in his horrified indignation yesterday.

What is a program like this teaching children?

It's teaching them to see the world in racial stereotypes. It's teaching them to see America as divided along racial lines instead of ideological or theological or philosophical or moral lines.

Shame on Burnett and Probst and CBS. This is a truly sick undertaking. Terrell was correct to denounce it in fury. No wonder black men have such high blood pressure.
64 posted on 08/24/2006 5:24:14 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
They still separate the sexes in sports. That is disgusting! That is so demeaning to women!

They have men's golf and women's golf. They have men's tennis and women's tennis. We need to stop all this invidious segregation! Let's just have Tennis and Golf and let the best players (male or female) compete?

65 posted on 08/24/2006 5:29:37 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: finnman69
CBS Is Looking for another black eye!
66 posted on 08/24/2006 5:33:52 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup ("Is it real? Or is it Reuters?")
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To: P-Marlowe
But marlowe, you and I would be the first ones to say that sexual distinctions are not the same as racial distinctions. The fact that a pregnant woman should not operate heavy machinery is not impinging on her rights to free employment.

You must know some black people who become incensed when racial discrimination is compared to sexual discrimination. I sure do.

It's also the basis for the homosexual's idiotic demand for "equal" treatment.

Discrimination based on sex is NOT in any way the same as racial discrimination.
67 posted on 08/24/2006 5:35:00 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Discrimination based on sex is NOT in any way the same as racial discrimination.

Ah, but it is. Let's look at reality, shall we? The fact is that black people are better at sports than white people. Black people run faster than white people. They jump higher than white people. Pound for pound they are stronger than white people.

So using your sex criteria (i.e., women are weaker and therefore should not be required to compete with men on the tennis court) then white people should not have to compete with black people in track, basketball, football. Just as they have women's tennis and men's tennis they should have white women's tennis and black women's tennis.

We are off the discussion at this point. The point is that there is nothing inherently wrong in pitting members of one race against members of another race in a competition. When BYU plays Charlotte in basketball, like it or not, you have white people playing black people. Nobody throws a cow -- well liberals throw a cow that there aren't enough black students at BYU, but that is the result of religion and culture more than invidious discrimination.

There is no "discrimination" here.

68 posted on 08/24/2006 5:58:53 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: P-Marlowe
Let's look at reality, shall we? The fact is that black people are better at sports than white people

You just lost the debate, Marlowe.

69 posted on 08/24/2006 6:13:49 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
You just lost the debate, Marlowe.

Whatever.

70 posted on 08/24/2006 6:20:22 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (((172 * 3.141592653589793238462) / 180) * 10 = 30.0196631)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

If you want to see how wrong your theory is on how good the Asian team does, then go read the spoiler sites.


71 posted on 08/24/2006 6:46:48 PM PDT by I Drive Too Fast
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To: I Drive Too Fast

My theory isn't based on "how good" the Asian team is, but on Leslie Moonves' wife's ambitions.

It's just a guess. Time will tell.


72 posted on 08/24/2006 7:50:41 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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