Posted on 08/19/2006 6:39:43 AM PDT by RaceBannon
Show links Darwin, Hitler ideologies Holocaust was fallout of evolution theory, says new production
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Posted: August 19, 2006 1:00 a.m. Eastern
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com
Charles Darwin should share with Hitler the blame for the 11 million or more lives lost in the Holocaust, a new television special explains. And, the program says, the more than 45 million American lives lost to abortion also can be blamed on that famous founder of evolutionary theory.
The results of Darwin’s theories
"This show basically is about the social effects of Darwinism, and shows this idea, which is scientifically bankrupt, has probably been responsible for more bloodshed than anything else in the history of humanity," Jerry Newcomb, one of two co-producers, told WorldNetDaily.
As compared to Darwin didn't start the Holocaust, but evolution did?
Your premise is the Nazi philosophy was predicated on the theory of eugenics, started by Sir Francis Galton, a cousin of Darwin,(didn't know that did you ?) that an superior race built on selective breeding will improve the human race.
In principle, you can make that connection, but neglect the fact the Jews would have been systematically persecuted regardless of what Darwin wrote or whether or not Hitler believed in evolution / eugenics theories.
Wow, you people blame me for making jumps??
Ideology started Hitlerism, Hitler started the Holocaust
Ideology based on Evolution.
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Wow, you guys act like liberals the way you need the dots connected so much.
Horsehockey. Notions of racial superiority long predate evolution.
Sorry....I don't think so...the members of the Thule Society adhered to a differnt idea of evolution...namely a more rosicrucian one....where lesser races ended up sharing the same space on earth at the same time. This was the "problem"...they saw it as essentially a mistake, an error that they could correct. Hitler and his cadre combined occult principles based in eastern mysticism with the european mythos of the rosicrucians, and nordic mythology. This should not be confused with other spiritual movements that were punished and outlawed, such as the theosophists and anthroposophists. The modern green movement found it's home in the national socialists, who were fanatically occuppied with the idea of a spiritual earth, that must be kept clean, where the blood of the earth determined your folk soul. Perhaps outwardly it would seem to be darwininan, in it's most negative sense to have persecuted so many....but it has little to do with their reasoning.
I wont deny Hitler had many other philosophies involved in their warped Nazi thinking, ut it CANNOT BE DENIED that Darwinism had a strong play, especially in the Eigenics part.
Now, PLEASE, go to the 3 articles and read the links in entirety and comment on what was posted, not headlines.
Rubbish. People were believing that certain races were inferior long before Hitler, or Darwin.
I disagree entirely. But for the sake of argument, lets say this entirely false premise is true.
Now let's imagine that you have developed your own theory to explain some phenomenon. But you are concerned that at some point in the future, some monster with ill intent will come along and twist your theory and claim it as a justification for his deeds.
How this would in any way address the validity of your theory should be completely lost on anyone who thinks scientifically. Perverting someone's theory for political purposes is not a way to test whether it is valid. Anyone who would denounce your theory because some jerk misused it would be committing guilt by association--a well-recognized logical fallacy.
Think about it. Science would grind to a halt if no one put forward theories out of fear that some monster might twist them for nefarious purposes at some future date.
Regarding Hitler's miscalculation re Russia: I think Wm. Shirer says Hitler in his last days in the bunker accepted that "the stronger nation to the east" would prevail; it was almost as if he believed at that point that the German people deserved to lose, in line with his theories of "survival of the fittest."
evo ping
And you can cite the section in The Communist Manifesto which covers this?
Are you going to actually comment on the articles themselves or are you just posting?
Are you going to actually comment on the articles themselves or are you just posting?
Are you going to actually comment on the articles themselves or are you just posting?
This was a serious concern in Darwin's time and popularized by his cousin, Sir Francis Galton; Darwin made it plain that the theory was valid in the wilderness among competing species, even plants.
Where society fails the theory is found in the notion of perfection, a philosophical concept.
I corrected that, thanks for being smart enough to look for it before you posted that.
Are you going to actually comment on the articles themselves or are you just posting?
"Scientific evolution hypothesizes random changes to a species, which happen in small but continuous changes to form and function via genetic mutations made a part of the species through reproduction of individual members, eventually accumulating so much difference from the original that a new species exists. In simpler terms, random changes happen to the genes of individual members of a species, and then these changes are passed to offspring and become part of the species designation, especially if the random mutations help the organism to survive in the environment (known as natural selection; a quick web search for ‘blind cave fish’ will detail this gradual change via random mutations and adaptation). The fossil record can be interpreted to support this perspective, to a point, illustrating random change favoring adaptation as ‘mindless selection’ to changing environmental conditions … often called survival of the fittest."
Haven't you heard? Marxism IS the future.
mark for later read
And it was BS then too.
It is wrong to blame Darwin or his theory for Hitler, but it is also wrong not to acknowledge the intellectual origins of Hitler's policies, or those of Marx. That's like claiming that the lone Muslim who shot a bunch of Jewish women was just a "confused loner," rather than someone acting on the basis of ideology.
Darwin's ideas of natural selection were influenced by his knowledge of artificial selection. It's an obvious and predictable step to reverse his thought process, and propose that if natural selection "improves the breed," artificial selection will do it faster, and therefore we should intervene actively. Anyone who looks at the astounding diversity of domestic dogs can see how rapidly artificial selection works.
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