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Breaking - Ramsey Case
CNN ^ | 8/18/06 | CNN

Posted on 08/18/2006 9:11:49 AM PDT by fivecatsandadog

A U.S. law enforcement official tells CNN that the man held in the slaying of JonBenet Ramsey offered details about the condition of her body that have never been made public.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: bogus; fraudtracey; jmkjbr; jonbenet; karr; murder; ramsey; thailand
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http://www.latimes.com/wireless/avantgo/la-na-jonbenet18aug18,0,7672574.story

His second marriage was to Lara Marie Karr in 1989.
She was 16.

John Karr was "very controlling of me," Lara Karr said years later in their divorce papers

She was pregnant when they married. Karr, eight years older, told her it was the best way to get married without parental permission, she said, then later pushed her to cut all ties with family members. The couple eventually had three boys.

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So she was pregnant and sixteen when they married in 1989, the twins were stillborn on Sept 1, 1989.


561 posted on 08/19/2006 3:11:18 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: Halls
I do not know if John Karr is guilty and will wait to give judgement when it is known if he was in CO at the time of Jonbenet's murder or not, the DA decides not to file charges against him for murder of Jonbenet, his ex wife can provide a photograph of him with the family at Christmas 1996, the DNA doesn't match, or something else happens to prove he did or did not do it.

And, really, we all are. It's all speculation. As I've said before, to commit murder you must have means, motive and opportunity. At this point, we have possible motive but nothing more.

Is anybody asking themselves how such a slightly-built man could exact such force on JBR as to crack her skull? Granted, she's a small child but it still would have taken quite a blow to cause that to happen. A picture of him from 1996 might exonerate him if it's a Christmas photo but it also might quietly condemn him if he shows to be in better physical condition then than he looks today.

I'm also still asking "Why this child who lives 1,000 miles away?" and "Where did he stay the night before and the night after the crime? In Boulder or elsewhere? Who can place him at the scene or anywhere near it?"

562 posted on 08/19/2006 3:13:30 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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More from link... read what the DA told her.

http://www.latimes.com/wireless/avantgo/la-na-jonbenet18aug18,0,7672574.story

Karr won release from jail Oct. 5, 2001, on a slate of conditions, including prohibitions on contacting his one named victim, using computers or the Internet, and visiting parks, theaters, beaches and other spots frequented by children.

Two days later, his wife was told by a neighbor that Karr had asked for her number, and wanted to see his boys and collect his belongings and car. Lara Karr got a court-ordered restraining order and no-visitation judgment, cutting off all ties between Karr and his sons.

"I'm concerned for the well being of my sons," Lara Karr said in court papers, noting that one district attorney official told her that her husband's acts were so egregious that he should be considered "a threat to all children."

In court papers, Lara Karr recalled that he had prior difficulties during his tenure as a substitute teacher while working in the South. She said John Karr had been told by a school in 1997 or 1998 that he wouldn't be asked to come back as a substitute because "he had a tendency to be too affectionate with the children."

John Karr's trial was set for January 2002, but he failed to report as required to authorities in December 2001, and a warrant was issued for his arrest.


563 posted on 08/19/2006 3:14:10 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: MAWG

That is what I keep thinking, that the DA has something on him that she hasn't shared with us. She may know he was in fact in CO in 1996 afterall and may have a DNA match. Until the media knows what she has I don't think we or the media should be making a judgement either wayabout Karr.


564 posted on 08/19/2006 3:14:16 PM PDT by Halls (I'm a Texan, Christian, Wife, Mother, Singer, Conservative GAL!!)
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To: N. Beaujon

There are still things that we dont know held back from the public for a day like today. He may have bitten her, that would not be unusual. He may have sliced off a souvenir as well. There is just no telling with these sick bastards. But, you can be certain there is something significant that the public is completely unaware of.


565 posted on 08/19/2006 3:15:41 PM PDT by MAWG
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To: MAWG; Halls

thanks...

Having a link to it is important if it comes up later on during discussion.

I wonder if the children were his or if he suspected that were not his.

Being 16 and pregnant with twins can be rough on both the mother and babies. My guess he she also was not getting proper medical care.


566 posted on 08/19/2006 3:17:10 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: Halls

Well, his brother and ex have certainly "gone silent".


567 posted on 08/19/2006 3:20:20 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: stlnative

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14400501/

Scroll down where it talks about the twins being born at home!


568 posted on 08/19/2006 3:21:37 PM PDT by Halls (I'm a Texan, Christian, Wife, Mother, Singer, Conservative GAL!!)
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To: stlnative
Karr won release from jail Oct. 5, 2001, on a slate of conditions, including prohibitions on contacting his one named victim, using computers or the Internet, and visiting parks, theaters, beaches and other spots frequented by children.

Well That should clear up the investigations here in Alabama. Shannon Paulk's Body was found in October 2001, but she dissappeared in August 2001, and Mr. Karr was in prison in California From April through October 2001.

569 posted on 08/19/2006 3:22:21 PM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: Sacajaweau

they sure have! Some gal earlier on Foxnews says the family is working on providing a picture to prove Karr was with them in 1996. HELLO? If they had a picture it would have already been plastered on the news.

Who doesn't have pictures of each and every CHristmas when they have kids? Their kids were like 2,3, and 4 years old in 1996. You bet she has pics and knows where to find them and provide them within minutes. The fact that she hasn't at this point is very suspicious to me!


570 posted on 08/19/2006 3:23:48 PM PDT by Halls (I'm a Texan, Christian, Wife, Mother, Singer, Conservative GAL!!)
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To: Halls

O.K. No judging but I aint about to sit down and have a beer with this Buttplug of a human being!


571 posted on 08/19/2006 3:26:35 PM PDT by MAWG
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OMG, go to this link-http://www.kron.com/Global/category.asp?C=8554&nav=menu130_1

Scroll down and click on the "Woman Says Karr Told Her About Ramsey" video link and watch the video!!!


572 posted on 08/19/2006 3:32:48 PM PDT by Halls (I'm a Texan, Christian, Wife, Mother, Singer, Conservative GAL!!)
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To: Halls

Thank you :-)


573 posted on 08/19/2006 3:37:28 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: commish

Good Catch!


574 posted on 08/19/2006 3:38:24 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: Halls

This is the gal I linked to late last night... She has a ton of stuff on Karr, it sound like Karr was talking to her before he started talking to Tracey. She put a retraining order on Karr also.


575 posted on 08/19/2006 3:40:12 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

She is very credible! Doesn't mean Karr didn't lie to her, but seems to me she is saying what she was told and not making anything up.


576 posted on 08/19/2006 3:41:46 PM PDT by Halls (I'm a Texan, Christian, Wife, Mother, Singer, Conservative GAL!!)
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To: stlnative

What I also find interesting is that maybe Karr's brother was involved!


577 posted on 08/19/2006 3:42:09 PM PDT by Halls (I'm a Texan, Christian, Wife, Mother, Singer, Conservative GAL!!)
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To: Halls
Just reading his history.

The fall of 1996: He attended Bevill State Community College in Hamilton, Alabama.

I'll bet he babysat/tutored on the side and got a babysitting gig to Colorado during the holidays.

All expenses paid for by an executive connected to the Ramseys....means no paper trail.

When Jonbenet was born (1990) he had just lost Angel and Innocence - 1989.

I wonder if Jonbenet's birth was splashed on the newspaper down there?

Where were the Ramseys in 1990. Where was Karr?

578 posted on 08/19/2006 3:43:43 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Halls

see post 386 and 387 about this woman's story...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1685951/posts?page=386#386


579 posted on 08/19/2006 3:46:06 PM PDT by stlnative
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To: stlnative

Makes you wonder how much "insider" info Sandrock might have given Karr and Tracey.


580 posted on 08/19/2006 3:56:09 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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