Breaking - Ramsey Case

CNN ^ | 8/18/06 | CNN

[fivecatsandadog]

A U.S. law enforcement official tells CNN that the man held in the slaying of JonBenet Ramsey offered details about the condition of her body that have never been made public.

[Rte66]

I'd like to know why a guy who lived in AL with his family happened to shop for black duct tape at McGuckin's Hardware store in Boulder or managed to get a roll from that same Shurtape shipment from October/November 1996.

[Sacajaweau]

I have to go BACK to the note. It was unusually long and I believe it was pre-written. That it was Ramsey paper and pen because he had already been to the Ramsey house.

Why leave a Ransom note if she's dead? And if she's dead, why not take the body and bury it and still try for the ransom money?? Because you're not familiar with the area and your intention was murder.

When you hate the "rich" but can't get a piece of the rock and know what their loves are.....You kill their love because money they'll always have.

Why do I think he was at some of the southern pageants...live kiddie porn in his mind.

Bet people have been coming out of the woodwork since his picture came out.

Don't know what the Ramsey business is but somehow I think this is connected to an associate....who perhaps hired Karr as a Tutor/Babysitter, all expenses paid for a holiday trip to Colorado.

Karr is a computer geek. With a little info, he can find out an awful lot on the web. His resume said he babysat for the "elite".

In a way, he's kinda got the same MO and mindset as the Unabomber. Think a lot of Cold Cases might just wind up being dusted off. The guys a repeater.

[delacoert]

See FR post where ElkGroveDan posts that he played a role in highlighting this teddy bear.

[Rte66]

So far, cops around the US are saying they have no record of any of these crimes Karr says he committed, other than the two CA things. Apparently, he never got caught before that.

[Halls]

where did you hear Karr was in BOulder, CO in November of 1996??

[stlnative]

There was a Santa Dressed Teddy Bear left on JonBenet's bed. The Ramsey's were looking at crime scene photos many years ago (police probably showed photos to them, to see if they noticed something out of place in the photos as they would have been taken on day they found JonBenet.) The Ramsey's discovered the Santa Teddy Bear in the picture. They told police about it and also asked family members and friends if they had given it to JonBenet. No one knew where it came from.

Now years later... John Karr sent a picture of himself holding a Santa Teddy Bear to the Colorado Prof he was writing.

They did not say if or if not the Santa Teddy Bear appears to be the same one that was left on JonBenet's bed. But this is one of the things that has police interested in Karr.

[ElkGroveDan]

Thanks for noticing, I bet I have that email and the photos on my archive CDs at home somewhere. I'll try and dig it up tonight.

[commish]

wait a minute. Are they saying that this guy has a picture of this same bear and that it was taken recently or before 1996? And I never knew there was a stuffed bear left on JonBenet's bed after she was killed?

Yes. They are saying he sent a picture of him as child (or maybe young man) holding the same teddy bear. And yes, there was a teddy bear on Jonbenet's bed that the Ramseys said was not there before and that they had never seen.

[MAWG]

Patsy and Carr have an affair, you cant be serious.

That is the dumbest thing I have heard on FR in over 5 years now.

PROVE IT.

[stlnative]

FOX showed photos of the bear laying on a twin size bed today. But they have not said if Karr is holding that same bear in the photo he sent the colorado prof, but this is one of the things that sent chills up the spine of the Colorado prof after he received the photo of Karr holding "a" or "the" bear.

[Halls]

WOW, maybe he did kill JonBenet afterall. This is getting weirder and weirder! I for one have not said that I think he didn't do it one time as I just don't know. Until the investigation gets going and is complete will we all know for sure.

I'm still waiting for his family to prove he was with them on Christmas 1996.

[bonfire]

I was JOKING!

[Halls]

You think that is dumb?

This Protagoras guy accused me of killing JonBenet on this thread as well, lol!

There are some real idiots around here, lol!

[delacoert]

Thanks for noticing,

No problem. IMO, your involvement in the Jonbenet Ramsey case ought to be noticed by all those who enjoy Freeper involvement in important news.

[bonfire]

You can say THAT again. Some of the people here creep me out.

[stlnative]

Where did you hear it was the same bear? - I have TIVO (I replayed twice) and they did not say if it was the same bear or not on FOX. Only that Karr sent a picture of himself holding "A" teddy bear to the professer and that there was a mystery bear left on JonBenet's bed.

[commish]

Whether or not John Karr killed JonBenet Ramsey this is definately a fascinating turn of events, adn if nothing else a known pedophile and certifiable whacko is now safely behind bars instead of roaming the world "teaching" children.

[commish]

So far today I have heard or read multiple reports that have said "A" bear, "the same" bear , and or "A similar bear". Sorry if I was confusing, I should have noted that not all the outlets are saying it is the same bear.

[stlnative]

I off to cook dinner... I check for your reply to #236 after dinner.

[utahagen]

I just read all the supposedly inside info this guy gave and I knew almost all of it already! This creep has been corresponding with a college professor who is writing a book asserting the Ramseys' innocence. It wouldn't be hard for such a a professor to use connections to people in Boulder politics or law enforcement to find out some small details not generally released. This guy is a pervert and a nutjob, but I'll bet he was never anywhere near the Ramseys' house until AFTER the murder.