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Man says he drugged, had sex with Ramsey
Associated Press ^ | Thursday, August 17, 2006

Posted on 08/17/2006 11:16:54 AM PDT by Peace4EarthNow

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Ah Subic. thought I recognized the artwork

241 posted on 08/17/2006 6:28:43 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
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To: Red Badger
I think this guy THINKS he killed her, and probably wasn't even near there. These stories seem beyond bizarre........

It is very strange...

Does it look like he might have AIDS and just doesn't want to die in Thailand?

242 posted on 08/17/2006 6:31:43 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Red Badger
Hr looks like a young former Governor of Caleeeforneeea:

Gray Davis!!!

243 posted on 08/17/2006 6:32:24 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: MAWG
My question still remains for anyone who thinks that John or Patsy killed Jonbenet:

Which one of them raped Jonbenet with the blunt end of a wooden paintbrush and why do you think they felt this was necessary.

Last night on one of the talk shows, I cant remember which, an ME from Arizona was part of a panel of experts and he said he was asked by the Boulder DA to look at the forensic evidence. He discovered or rather , probably revealed for the first time that a sliver of wood that matched a wooden paintbrush in the Ramsey household was found in Jonbenets vagina. He further claimed that it was the paintbrush that caused the vaginal abrasions and bleeding.This " symbolic "penetration/rape is not that uncommon with pedophiles. He is not interested in sex as we know it. His fantasies are about achieving power and he seethes with hatred. That is his motivation.

So, who brutally and savagely beat and raped their daughter? Was it Mommy or Daddy? And why did they feel it was necessary to do this?

244 posted on 08/17/2006 6:40:09 PM PDT by MAWG
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To: Palladin; Rte66
Here's an interesting fact from another thread:

Sandra Ford, a retired fifth-grade teacher at Kilby School in Florence supervised Karr's internship, says she was concerned by the way he related to female students. Karr's marriages to teen girls also generated talk in the area. Court records show a 14-year-old girl sought an annulment of their "ceremonial marriage" in 1985. She claimed she feared for her life when she agreed to wed him in 1984, when she was just 13 and he was 19. Karr admitted she was a minor, but denied she was 13.

A judge granted the annulment. Karr later married Lara Karr, who was 16 when their twin daughters died the day they were born on September 1st, 1989. The girls, Angel and Innocence Karr, are buried in the cemetery of a rural church in a family plot. Former Sheriff A-C Tice says the twins were born at home. Probate Judge Annette Bozeman says Karr apparently delivered his children.

245 posted on 08/17/2006 6:41:41 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Tall_Texan

Kidnap a 6-7 year old. Wonder if this guy was in CA when Van Damn disappeared?


246 posted on 08/17/2006 6:41:57 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: FreedomCalls

I just had somebody post to me on another thread that he wasn't facing any time in a Thai prison.


247 posted on 08/17/2006 6:43:19 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby
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To: KneelBeforeZod

He wasn't born yet!


248 posted on 08/17/2006 6:44:39 PM PDT by John Jamieson
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To: abigailsmybaby

That is correct, he was just being detained at the request of the US authorities. Because he was convicted in absentia for the porn, he became a target to be deported from Thailand.


249 posted on 08/17/2006 6:45:31 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama

That is interesting. What a totally weird and amoral person this John Karr is!

But I don't think he killed JonBenet.


250 posted on 08/17/2006 6:46:15 PM PDT by Palladin (Ceasefire? What ceasefire??--IDF)
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To: Palladin

I dont think he killed her either Palladin. I think this fruitloop is dying of aids and looking to go out in a blaze of glory. Simple as that. I hope I'm wrong and that this 10 year nightmare is over. We'll see.


251 posted on 08/17/2006 6:49:52 PM PDT by MAWG
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To: Alex Murphy
I have long theorized to friends who live(d) in Colorado that (IMO) one of the Ramseys knew the killer, had allowed the killer in their house the night of her death, had possibly allowed the killer to have (sexual) access to JonBonet in some fashion (providing access to suggestive/explicit pictures of her, at a minimum), and thus shared guilt/complicity in her death. There was no way they could point to the real killer without implicating one or both of them (especially if only one of them was involved), hence the Ramsey's need to call in their lawyers so early on.

Not so pure BS.

252 posted on 08/17/2006 6:51:07 PM PDT by madison10
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To: MAWG

With the earliest reports, I had high hopes the killer had been apprehended. Caught in Thailand--pedophile paradise. ICE agents on the case. FBI involved.

Then it all unravelled, as soon as I learned he had been drawn into a sting by the fraudulent professor Michael Tracey.

Oh, well--back to Square One.


253 posted on 08/17/2006 6:52:38 PM PDT by Palladin (Ceasefire? What ceasefire??--IDF)
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To: Palladin

I have an uneasy feeling about Professor Tracy. Most of the Profs I've known have been drunks and lechers. I have a very low opinion of profs in general. I'm VERY interested in the relationship between these two and I'd LOVE to see the Email correspondence ( hundreds ) between them.


254 posted on 08/17/2006 6:59:29 PM PDT by MAWG
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To: Rte66

If John Ramsey received the bonus as stock options 10 months prior then it would have been in the company quarterly reports which are publicly accessible documents.

It wouldn't have been private information at all. Claims that nobody could have known the amount except John and Patsy would be specious.

It's just a weird coincidence (or the killer was watching and planning this crime for a while).


255 posted on 08/17/2006 7:35:49 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: Palladin

For what it's worth I don't think he killed HER either. OTOH he may have killed another child that resembles her. He was rather obsessed with her and IMO capable of murder.

Wasn't there a killer a few years back that killed small frame women with a peculiar hairstyle.


256 posted on 08/17/2006 8:10:38 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Peace4EarthNow

The guy is real creepy and he should be locked up for life for being a pedophile.


257 posted on 08/17/2006 8:12:18 PM PDT by Vicki (Washington State where anyone can vote .... illegals, non-residents or anyone just passing through)
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To: hoosiermama

Most likely he has a long history of crimes against children. Yet he has only one previous arrest on five misdemeanor counts of possessing child pornography. (It's a misdemeanor? This was in CA.)

He's one of those slithery ones who fly under the radar, if I may mix my metaphors.

I hope they make some charges stick, maybe the ones in CA, and keep this creep away from kids.

I was reading in the Bangkok newspaper that he was sacked from a school there for "scaring the children". He's been in and out of Thailand four times in 2 years, with a valid US visa. He most recently re-entered from Malaysia.

He's probably been preying on those poor little Tsunami victims.


258 posted on 08/17/2006 8:33:51 PM PDT by Palladin (Ceasefire? What ceasefire??--IDF)
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To: Vicki

"The guy is real creepy" ........I disagree, but I think MAWD may have got it right. He has the look of an AIDS patient. If that is true what was he doing in Thialand spreading it amongst the child prostitutes? Thats no longer creepy, thats murder. Lets see what develops, this will be headline news for weeks to come.


259 posted on 08/17/2006 8:36:03 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (If Bin Laden kidnapped Jimmy Carter, would you care?)
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To: Palladin
Did I send you this before? Thought it was quite enlightening as to his "character".

Sandra Ford, a retired fifth-grade teacher at Kilby School in Florence supervised Karr's internship, says she was concerned by the way he related to female students. Karr's marriages to teen girls also generated talk in the area. Court records show a 14-year-old girl sought an annulment of their "ceremonial marriage" in 1985. She claimed she feared for her life when she agreed to wed him in 1984, when she was just 13 and he was 19. Karr admitted she was a minor, but denied she was 13.
A judge granted the annulment. Karr later married Lara Karr, who was 16 when their twin daughters died the day they were born on September 1st, 1989. The girls, Angel and Innocence Karr, are buried in the cemetery of a rural church in a family plot. Former Sheriff A-C Tice says the twins were born at home. Probate Judge Annette Bozeman says Karr apparently delivered his children

260 posted on 08/17/2006 9:10:22 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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