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Man says he drugged, had sex with Ramsey
Associated Press ^ | Thursday, August 17, 2006

Posted on 08/17/2006 11:16:54 AM PDT by Peace4EarthNow

BANGKOK, Thailand - The American suspect in the killing of JonBenet Ramsey told investigators that he drugged and had sex with the 6-year-old beauty queen before accidentally killing her, a senior Thai police officer said Thursday.

An autopsy on Ramsey said a blood screening showed no drugs or alcohol in her body but said she had vaginal abrasions.

Lt. Gen. Suwat Tumrongsiskul, head of Thailand's immigration police, said by telephone that he was not present for the questioning, which was conducted by U.S. law enforcement officials.

But, according to what the general said he was told of the questioning, the suspect, John Mark Karr, "said he drugged the child." Suwat did not say who briefed him on the questioning.

Karr claimed he had sex with Ramsey, who was still alive, Suwat said. Karr said he then realized he had "accidentally" killed her, according to the general.

A spokesman for the U.S. Embassy said it had no information about Karr's alleged actions or what he said to questioners. U.S. and Colorado law enforcement officials were unavailable for comment.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: 1queerbird; alienalert; bangkok; capitalcrimes; creepy; crime; criminality; deathpenalty; extradition; ishotreagan; johnmarkkarr; jonbenet; jonbenetramsey; justice; justicesystem; legal; maybeguiltymaybenot; mentalillness; murder; murderer; patsy; punishment; ramsey; thailand
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To: nyconse; Alex Murphy

True, but this perv did neither of those things.


141 posted on 08/17/2006 1:16:13 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Last night was the first night in something like 18 months I happened to see the show. I wanted to know about the story, and I asked myself "Who will be most likely to devote as much air time as possible to a tabloid-like story such as this?"


142 posted on 08/17/2006 1:16:54 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Government IS the problem.)
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To: daylate-dollarshort
Your response was clearly drawn out of thin air without any basis in fact.

I never said it was. It was just speculation. Same as anybody else's speculation. That's what "could" means.......

could Pronunciation (kd) aux.v. Past tense of can1 1. Used to indicate ability or permission in the past: I could run faster then. Only men could go to the club in those days.

2. Used with hypothetical or conditional force: If we could help, we would.

3. Used to indicate tentativeness or politeness: I could be wrong. Could you come over here?

143 posted on 08/17/2006 1:21:55 PM PDT by Red Badger (Is Castro dead yet?........)
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To: Marius3188
I don't know how the particulars wrt his confession, only what I heard him say on TV..Or how legal it is?

But then we have it on video where he said he was "there when she died"..and when asked if he was innocent, he said "no"..

sw

144 posted on 08/17/2006 1:22:58 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Red Badger

"I think this guy THINKS he killed her, and probably wasn't even near there. These stories seem beyond bizarre........"

They were talking about this on the Peter Boyles show out of Denver this morning. He kept extensive files on the case and was saying that a lot of things just don't add up here.


145 posted on 08/17/2006 1:24:20 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball
From Drudge: (psychic drew this pic) http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/famous/ramsey/epilogue_12.html
146 posted on 08/17/2006 1:26:35 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: Peace4EarthNow

Marshall H. Applewhite and Bonnie Lu Trusdale Nettles, The Bo-Peep of Heaven's Gate Cult. Is this their child?


147 posted on 08/17/2006 1:26:36 PM PDT by bornacatholic
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To: One_American
Maybe he was the inspiration behind Inspector Gadget...


148 posted on 08/17/2006 1:32:54 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Get off my lawn!)
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To: dljordan
Well who knows, he may be in the first or mid stages of severe clinical mental illness
and mixes fact with fiction

The PROOF is in the DNA

149 posted on 08/17/2006 1:35:10 PM PDT by apackof2 (They wait on you hand and foot so they can charge you an arm and a leg)
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To: Peace4EarthNow

He drugged her down into the basement. < /sarc>


150 posted on 08/17/2006 1:37:42 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (I wish a political party would come along that thinks like I do.)
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To: Peace4EarthNow

Don't know if Thai police take DNA when they arrest someone on a felony charge, but if so, and if they put it in a worldwide data base, then perhaps it popped up as a match to the DNA from Jonbenet's panties and from under her nails. Or, the FBI could have followed him around over in Thailand until he threw away a coffee cup, taken the DNA from that, and found a match with the DNA on Jonbenet. ABC said it matched.


151 posted on 08/17/2006 1:40:26 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Orange1998

That's creepy.


152 posted on 08/17/2006 1:42:04 PM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: Xenalyte

Isn't he still in Thailand? If so, he must be in some sort of jail. He's sure not at his apartment.


153 posted on 08/17/2006 1:51:01 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Peace4EarthNow
That's one of the creepiest looking humanoids I've ever seen. It has the shoulders and neck of a 5 year old and the head size of an adult. .....and its facial features are hermaphroditic.
154 posted on 08/17/2006 1:52:01 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: GovernmentShrinker

I've heard he's in transit back here. It's likely he was detained in jail before the flight.

Regardless, he was NOT in a Thai jail at the time he was arrested for this. He was in his apartment.

Ergo, he wasn't going to "spend the rest of his life in a Thai jail," because he never was in one until we asked for him to be.


155 posted on 08/17/2006 1:52:38 PM PDT by Xenalyte (No movie shall triumph over "Snakes on a Plane.")
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To: Mr. Mojo

I don't know - I've never met a woman with five o'clock shadow.


156 posted on 08/17/2006 1:53:02 PM PDT by Xenalyte (No movie shall triumph over "Snakes on a Plane.")
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To: thoughtomator
We had a case here in Washington, D.C. area almost 2 decades ago; a little girl named Michelle Dorr disappeared. Her father ultimately confessed to murdering her and burying her in his basement. Police dug up his basement twice looking for her body, but it wasn't there.

Years later, the real killer oonfessed and led police to her body, which he had buried under a mattress in a wooded area.

I know this is a completely different scenario, as in fact a victim's close family members or friends sometimes become convinced that they are the perps, for whatever reason. But its mental illness, and this seems like a case of that. I, too, really want this to be their man. But I have a bad feeling that this guy is fantasizing the sex and relationship with JBR. Why are we trusting "the local authorities" now, when we've seen them bumble around for 10 years?
157 posted on 08/17/2006 1:56:26 PM PDT by Soccer-Dad777
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To: Concho

Willfully using false information to make it look like he's just a kook instead of the actual killer?


158 posted on 08/17/2006 2:00:22 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: Xenalyte
I've never met a woman with five o'clock shadow

Ever been to Dearborn, MI?

Check out that freak's neck size. ......7 inch circumference, max.

159 posted on 08/17/2006 2:01:40 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Xenalyte

From Reuters:

"Questions arose about Karr's story when his ex-wife, Lara, told KGO-TV in San Francisco that he was with her in Alabama the entire Christmas season when JonBenet was killed.

His father, Wexford Karr, told the Denver Post that his son had been deeply interested in the JonBenet Ramsey case and had researched a book on the subject. KGO said Lara Karr told it her ex-husband had also been fascinated by the case of another murdered girl, Polly Klaas, which had attracted wide publicity.

Educators in Alabama, where Karr had studied education and served a teaching internship, said his interaction with children had raised concerns and he told many contradictory stories about himself.

"I did not think he could interact with children or adults .... You never knew what was true and what wasn't," Janice Myhan, a professor of education at the University of North Alabama, told Reuters."
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160 posted on 08/17/2006 2:05:27 PM PDT by Soccer-Dad777
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