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1 posted on 08/16/2006 1:17:09 PM PDT by mhking
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Siam??? I just want to be different.


571 posted on 08/16/2006 2:14:29 PM PDT by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (LIBS = Lewd Insane Babbling Scum)
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Another thread says A source close to the case identified the suspect as one-time resident of Conyers, Ga., and said he was a school teacher.
580 posted on 08/16/2006 2:16:30 PM PDT by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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AP is reporting that Patsy was notified in June before she died, that this man was being persued.
I'm glad to hear that.


609 posted on 08/16/2006 2:21:40 PM PDT by nuconvert ([there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: mhking

WOWZERS.

Thailand.


647 posted on 08/16/2006 2:30:33 PM PDT by roaddog727 (Bullsh## doesn't get bridges built.)
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Well as a card-carrying member of "the parents did it" club, I'd like to be the first to apologize, if this is indeed closure and not just another red herring.

To those now stuffing mega-crow in the oven and waxing self-righteous about those of us who jumped to conclusions, could I make one small plea for leniency on the part of my fellow members of the lynch mob?

When police conduct a murder investigation, they do not do so by focusing in on particular individuals. Rather, at the outset, everyone is "in" so to speak, and the police work to eliminate possible suspects. The Ramseys could never be eliminated and hence remained in the frame. This, combined with their unusual behavior and that most strange ransom note resulted in many of us putting 2+2 together and getting 5.

If the daughter of John and Jane Citizen is found dead in their basement with no sign of forced entry, then they'd better have a darned good alibi. The Ramsey's didn't and for me, this was the straw which broke the camel's back.

I'll now wait with baited breath to see what exactly is this guy's connection to the family, why he wrote that stupid note and how he so successfully entered and exited on a snowy night with nary a trace.

Curious and curiouser.

692 posted on 08/16/2006 2:39:16 PM PDT by marshmallow
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All right, my turn:

Thailand???!

706 posted on 08/16/2006 2:42:16 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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The guy's probably in jail already in Thailand, and due to be hung or whatever. If he's brought back here for Benet's death, the silly attorney's will see to it that he goes free. Which is better, he pays for his crime in Thailand, or comes here where spineless attorneys set him free to commit another series of crimes?


707 posted on 08/16/2006 2:42:54 PM PDT by Mrs. Darla Ruth Schwerin
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Thailand???


749 posted on 08/16/2006 2:53:50 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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Greta's head explodes...promises to restore the Ramsey's reputation  /sarc.

767 posted on 08/16/2006 3:00:38 PM PDT by Wolverine (A Concerned Citizen)
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The Ramsey-haters are in deep mourning and denial today.


777 posted on 08/16/2006 3:02:25 PM PDT by stinkerpot65
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BTW: Just a side note for all.

One of the reporters who covered the story here in Denver was Carol McKinley, who is now with Fox News. You may want to pay close attention to her reports over the next few days.


811 posted on 08/16/2006 3:18:11 PM PDT by Starter
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ping


832 posted on 08/16/2006 3:29:36 PM PDT by zip (((Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough become truth to 48% of all Americans (NRA)))))
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Thank God, if he turns out to be the one that did it I hope he is executed.


849 posted on 08/16/2006 3:36:27 PM PDT by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. - Michelangelo)
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Excellent news. I pray that they finally caught the vermin who killed that little girl.

I used to believe that the parents were somehow involved in her death until I really looked at the available evidence, saw pictures of her little body and read the reports. Back then the thinking was "no one just takes a child from their bedroom in the middle of the night." Since then all sorts of horrific crimes have happened to children who were taken out of their beds by complete strangers. Granted, JonBenet was never taken out, but I believe that she was going to be. Something went wrong, he either couldn't get her out the way he planned, or he couldn't wait and he molested and killed her, leaving the long, rambling, nonsensical note behind.

The ransom note always bothered me. Once I saw it, and I didn't think it look like Patsy's writing samples, it didn't make sense to me that educated people as the Ramseys would not write such a rambling, ridiculous note demanding such an odd amount of money. They are not stupid; they would have to know that the handwriting would be looked at. The amount, if it was in fact the amount of John's bonus, would be a huge red flag. If they were cunning enough to stage the scene, complete with garrotte and suitcase by the broken window, how did they completely turn into morons and compose a blatantly juvenile three-page ransom note, using their own notepad and sharpie, to boot--not to mention the practice note that was found in the garbage? It never added up for me.

Hearing that this vermin confessed and knew only details that LE knew, I pray that he will plead guilty and be put away. Hearing that Patsy was told that he was in their sites and would soon be arrested makes me think that she then felt she could finally let go. She died knowing her baby's killer was finally found.

When Lou Smitt was put on the case everyone raved how this brilliant detective would solve the crime--after all he had solved some 300 crimes. When he came to the conclusion that the Ramseys were not involved, he suddenly didn't know what he was talking about and was treated as a fool. There was definite tunnel vision by the Boulder PD.

I pray this is their guy, and that he won't be able to hurt another baby again.


870 posted on 08/16/2006 3:54:17 PM PDT by Shelayne (...And though my heart is torn, I will praise You in this storm... ~~Casting Crowns)
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>> If this person is proven to be the killer of Jon Benet, what will the police and the press have to say to the Ramsey's? If ever parents were crucified by Denver police investigators and by the press, it was the Ramseys! Now what? Will all those who went to the media to proclaim the parents guilty step forward to admit their mistakes and to apologize to all of us for their stupidity? Somehow, I doubt it. <<

I have said for a long time I didn't believe the parents killed Jon Benet. The usual "blame the parents" crowd spent the last decade demonizing the parents and insisting Patsy Ramsey was a psycho who flew into violent rages when her daughter wet the bed and John Ramsey was a "pedophile" and molester, all of this being hyped without ONE shread of evidence pointing to the Ramsey's. The knee-jerk hysteria was amazing, even on FR people were still cursing Patsy Ramsey the day she died.

Can you imagine how John Ramsey must feel when his youngest daughter was brutally killed and instead of a public outcry of support, everyone turned against him and berated him as a murderer and molester without any evidence. It's the precise opposite of the OJ case, you have everyone convinced he's gulity when a mountain of evidence including the DNA samples, fingerprints, handwriting sample, lie-detector test, etc. did NOT match and did NOT point to anyone in the family.

It's a amazing John Ramsey wasn't suicidal in these circumstances.

The knee-jerks do indeed owe the family a heartfelt apology if this guy is proven the killer, though I doubt they will ever get it.

Even people are STILL quick to make assumpitions, throwing about the "pedophile" word with a suspect in custody in Thailand, again, without knowing any of the evidence. Most criminal profiles will tell you the vast majority of child killers and sadistic tortures are NOT pedophiles.

To the knee-jerks who went on a witch hunt against the Ramsey family, you ought to be ashamed. Next time, try finding actual EVIDENCE before you brand someone a sadist killer and a rapist.

903 posted on 08/16/2006 4:13:38 PM PDT by BillyBoy (ILLINOIS ELECTION "CHOICES:" Rod Bag-o-$hit or Judas Barf Too-Pinka)
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I'm glad to see that someone has finally been arressted.

My thoughts were that the Patsy or John didn't do it. Anybody who read the ransom note could easily tell that only some nut job wrote that note. Somebody that like to play games just like BTK killer.

The cops focused on Patsy because they had some stupid braindead theory that she murdered the daughter by accident for wetting her bed and tried to cover it up herself or with help from the husband. Patsy or they stood around and said, hmm lets write a bizarre ransom note with quotes from ransom movies that makes no sense. Then put dead jonbenet in the basement and make it look like she was sexually molested and strangled. btw how would 2 middle aged people remember quotes from old ransom movies since it was an accident?


939 posted on 08/16/2006 4:28:50 PM PDT by snowstorm12
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Just in...

Just breaking on KUSA-TV in Denver that the suspect arrested today in the case matches the DNA at the crime scene. Nothing on the web yet...

Link is here.

971 posted on 08/16/2006 4:43:03 PM PDT by SunTzuWu (Hans Delbruck - Scientist and Saint.)
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This thread was hard to find. I had seen it earlier in the day in "Front Page News" in my sidebar.

Now it's only in "Current News" or something.

This was the first thread and has the most posts, shouldn't it be in "Front Page News" at least and perhaps in "Breaking News"?

1,009 posted on 08/16/2006 4:57:23 PM PDT by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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While I would never say it is impossible that a lone sexual pervert could by happenstance or planning invade the home of a very wealthy couple it seems highly unlikely.

The vast majority (9 out of 10) people murdered in this country are murdered by people they know or by relatives, the vast majority being husband and wife or parents and children.

It seems extremelt unlikely that someone whom the Ramsey family notified the police about would be guilty. Not impossible, but extremely unlikely. As unlikely as as some "demented" provacateur and murderer taking the time to write a rambling, hallucinatory letter asking for a ransome for a child he already killed and stashed in their basement which was later discovered by John "Sherlock" Ramsey.

For all of you who still believe that this poor child couldn't possibly have been (mortally) accidently (or purposely) injured by the parent(s) I still say they were the number one suspects and remain such today.

No perp who had committed such a bold and notorius crime could have kept this to himself for ten or more years, let alone not have committed (or attempted to commit) similar crimes during the time in question. Such a person would be driven to repeat such a "glorious" beating of the police.

Until such time as ABSOLUTE proof of guilt I subscribe to the theory that the child died "unnaturally" at the hands of the parents and that an ongoing conspiracy has been created to defelct and absolve said parents, and that it continues to this day. I can't prove it but neither can John Ramsey currently prove my conjecture wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1,018 posted on 08/16/2006 5:06:47 PM PDT by Doc Savage (Bueller?....Bueller?...Bueller?...Bueller?...Pelosi?...Pelosi?...Pelosi?...)
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bttt


1,050 posted on 08/16/2006 5:49:30 PM PDT by nopardons
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