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I post this to counter the endless stream of smoke-blowing that stains the many just causes worthy of free republic posters. Now the militant smoker/regulars can begin blowing smoke and insults. Really sad so many young girls and young women begin smoking to emulate Sarah what's her name who I never thought sexy in the least, and repulsive with a bonfire lit in her face. And I ain't lion!
1 posted on 08/13/2006 7:05:25 PM PDT by at bay
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To: at bay

I'm torn on this.

On the one hand, I'm usually adverse to the "what about the children" rhetoric you see from politicians these days. The mere fact that Hillary is the grand dame of this movement tells all.

On the other hand, as an ex-smoker, I can say that there were always three impetuses for me to light up: 1) After a meal 2) Having a cup of coffee and 3) Seeing a TV/Movie character light up. It's hard to describe, the effect that that could have on me, a grown adult, but it worked.

I would have to come down on the side that it's the producers' decision if they want to show smoking on screen, but nevertheless I feel very strongly that smoking is one of the most horrible, useless, and damaging "habits" in history.


2 posted on 08/13/2006 7:11:38 PM PDT by seancdx
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To: at bay

"It's better for it to come from other kids," said a ninth-grader who doesn't smoke. "You don't want stupid videos about like peer pressure and stuff. You just need something that's not fake."


Who then went home and put on her Ashley Simpson cd as she read her copy of Vogue and put on her five inch heels and fake nails


4 posted on 08/13/2006 7:22:10 PM PDT by skaterboy
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To: at bay; Gabz
Virtually every teen girl interviewed as part of a new Health Department report on smoking said the show influenced their deadly habit

If I read this aright, they all became smokers??? I don't believe that.

I quite a long time ago - so long ago, the smoke is at worst an irritant. I'm really happy to have non-smoking sections in restaurants (sections where the smoke doesn't even creep in, unlike the poorly-designed ventilation in some places), but frankly the extreme prohibitions coming down lately disturb me a lot, for all that I "enjoy" the results. (A beloved relative is such a heavy smoker that even midwinter we close the vents, open the windows and block the doorway space -- only to get gassed in the morning anyway.)

We're selling our rights down the river in this country, for all sorts of stupid causes, and if there is ever a "Smokers' Rights" organization formed I might just sign up -- I may not especially like the exercise of this right (unless it's kept downwind), but if the line isn't drawn here it will have to be drawn somewhere else.

Or maybe we go with the flow, once we have total control, and make liberalism a capital crime. (Don't want to go there either -- got too many friends on the left.)

5 posted on 08/13/2006 7:22:30 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | Appeasement=Suicide | Hezbo rockets carry "peaceheads")
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To: at bay

Well so they emulate just the smoking? Why didnt they ask em about the drinking and the whoring?


8 posted on 08/13/2006 7:25:13 PM PDT by skaterboy
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To: at bay

What does that have to do with any of the arguments FReepers make against the government telling grown men and women what they can and cannot do for their own pleasure?


9 posted on 08/13/2006 7:26:32 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: at bay
What in the name of rice and beans is this girl doing watching that show in the first place? She is far too young.
11 posted on 08/13/2006 7:28:17 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (A propensity to hope and joy is real riches; one to fear and sorrow, real poverty)
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To: at bay; Just another Joe; CSM; lockjaw02; Publius6961; elkfersupper; nopardons; metesky; Mears; ...

Nanny State Ping.

The bigger questions should be why are girls this age watching these type programs and, even moreso, why are these busybodies asking them about it to begin with?


13 posted on 08/13/2006 7:39:11 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: at bay

Oh BTW - this "study" had just how many people in it??????????

What a joke you are.


17 posted on 08/13/2006 7:47:50 PM PDT by Gabz (Taxaholism, the disease you elect to have (TY xcamel))
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To: at bay
Don't forget the drinking on the TV either!


19 posted on 08/13/2006 7:52:52 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: at bay
The final episode of Sex & the City originally aired way back in February 2004. It seems a bit of a stretch to blame syndicated TV for smoking teens.
32 posted on 08/13/2006 8:12:41 PM PDT by jdm
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SOB, SOB, WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SNIFF, SNIFF, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!


That's about the extent of your posting abilities.

Loser.


40 posted on 08/13/2006 8:41:59 PM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: at bay

"I post this to counter the endless stream of smoke-blowing that stains the many just causes worthy of free republic posters."

Now, not only do you want to control what legal consumables individuals consume, you also want to preach to others about what subjects they regularly participate in on a private discussion forum.

Yep, it is all about control with you.....Thanks for finally admitting it.


59 posted on 08/14/2006 5:15:38 AM PDT by CSM ("The fatter we get as a country the more concerned we get about smoking" - ichabod1)
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To: at bay
It can be countered with (true) advertising slogans that hit girls where it hurts. Such as:

"When you smoke, guys think you stink."

"Getting too much attention from guys? Just light up."

"Cigarettes make your teeth match your summer tan."

Since teens have no interest in good health or future cancer risk as weighed against the coolness factor, you've got to go after the vanity aspects. ;)

62 posted on 08/14/2006 5:40:07 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: at bay

I hope they don't see "Weeds" on Showtime.


64 posted on 08/14/2006 5:46:31 AM PDT by Vision (“I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me" Philippians 3:14)
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The Carrie Bradshaw character struggles with her smoking habit. She wants to quit but cannot. She tries to quit under peer pressure but resumes during times of great stress. When Carrie goes to France she starts up again amidst boyfriend problems and besides there she learns everyone smokes. I think the Carrie character would tell teens do not even start because it is so hard to quit. What amazes me about SATC is how the women constantly throw back the hard liquor like it's Kool Aid.
66 posted on 08/14/2006 12:07:28 PM PDT by A knight without armor
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To: at bay

I started smoking at age 14 when I saw Dustin Hoffman in The Graduate.

I don't remember why, but I think it was because it made him look introspective and dark.


68 posted on 08/14/2006 12:23:36 PM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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