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Duke Case: Failure of Procedure
newsmax ^ | Wednesday, Aug. 9, 2006 | Susan Estrich

Posted on 08/09/2006 9:18:34 AM PDT by flixxx

There is a scandal now brewing in the Duke lacrosse case. I'm not even sure whether to call it a rape case anymore. You're about to see why.

Consistent with the procedure in North Carolina and elsewhere, the prosecution has to turn over its evidence to the defense to prepare for trial. There's still more to come, but the bulk of what has been turned over is troubling enough. It suggests a failure to follow standard procedure that is rather mind-boggling.

Consider: The District Attorney went to the grand jury for an indictment before he even performed DNA tests (it turns out there was no match). One of the investigators was still collecting prices for DNA tests while the DA was giving interviews. He announced to the press that he was certain that a rape had taken place before excluding the possibility that the woman's physical symptoms were the result of sex with another man (turns out she'd had sex with her boyfriend within the preceding 24 hours). They were still investigating the woman's whereabouts during the 24 hours leading up to the party, and they had already been to the grand jury. The prosecutor relied on a photographic identification procedure that reportedly violated the standards of his own department. If the discovery is any indication, his case is sitting on quicksand.

None of this means the woman is lying. But at the very least, standard procedure should have been to await the results of tests, and then, given the results, the inconsistencies in the woman's statements, the fact that at least one of the boys seems to have an airtight alibi, investigate further before indicting anyone.

Instead, the train had already left the station.

It doesn't matter anymore why the DA was so determined to indict. His critics will say it was just because he was thinking about his political career. His supporters will say he really believed her, and that a District Attorney has every right to be responsive to the community that elects him. My guess is he really did believe her, but it certainly didn't hurt that he needed to. And one thing is clear: He's not going to change his mind now.

That means this case is going to trial, unless a judge steps in to stop it, which is something that rarely happens.

And of this you can be sure: No good will come of it. Trials do not tend to be healing experiences. Sides dig in. Things get more contentious, not less. Tempers are bound to flare. Reliving the evening in living color is not likely to be pretty. Hearing the racial epithets again, rereading the e-mails, all of that will not improve race relations, even if it has nothing to do with whether a rape happened or not.

Even before that, there will be the questions of who serves on the jury and what counts as a jury of their peers. Shall we start counting how many minorities there are, how many "Duke" people, how many of "us" and how many of "them"?

If she takes the stand, she'll be slaughtered on cross.

If she doesn't, the prosecution doesn't have a chance.

No one will be convinced that the case was handled fairly.

If even one of the boys is convicted, there will be outrage in the Duke community.

If they're all acquitted, there will be outrage in the black community that three white boys got away with rape.

Conservatives will be outraged that three boys' lives were ruined because an ambitious prosecutor believed a lying "slut" (as in the nuts and sluts defense), which will be played to a fare-thee-well.

Victims rights advocates like me will be depressed because we will worry, rightly, about all the messages being sent to legitimate victims.

And what would have happened if the District Attorney had waited to go to the grand jury, followed the identification procedure, let the test results come in, found out about the boyfriend and investigated enough to learn that one of the suspects had an airtight alibi? He might have decided not to file charges at all, or not to file them against these three young men.

There are reasons you follow procedures. In general, they are there to spare outrage.


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: duke; dukelax; durhamdirtbag; lacrosse; lax
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To: Thunderchief F-105
"....wasn't that twisted logic from the fecund brain of "The Reverend" Al Sharpton...? in re: the Tawana Brawley case....? I believe his (in)famous comment was something to the effect that "well, it COULD have happened...!!".... yeah, maybe "Reverend Jessee" thinks along the same lines...."

Yup, and that Could have been a flying pig I saw on my into work this morning. LoL!!! Got love that Sharpton, his always great for comic relief. ;)

321 posted on 08/11/2006 8:25:10 AM PDT by apro
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To: abb
"The news of this story is that Susan Estrich has finally had to admit that she knows now..."

In other words, she finally had to admit she was wrong. Whoohooo. LoL!! ;)

322 posted on 08/11/2006 8:35:08 AM PDT by apro
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To: TommyDale
"I may have missed it, but did Estrich say anywhere that she believes a rape never occurred?"

She spinned it like this: "I'm not even sure whether to call it a rape case anymore." So I take it she is saying that she has doubts that a rape occured concerning these 3 guys.

323 posted on 08/11/2006 8:42:44 AM PDT by apro
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
"Do women lie about rape? Occasionally, but no study has ever found that women lie about rape any more often than men lie about other crimes. Why would they, given the stigma that is still attached to victims, and the humiliation involved in pursuing a complaint?"

I can't believe she even made that comment. People can do irrational things without thinking about the consequences and judging from the history of this AV, i.e. stealing a cab and almost running over a police officer, irrationality was in her past.

324 posted on 08/11/2006 8:57:01 AM PDT by apro
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To: Neverforget01
"Can Wendy and Nancy be far behind?"

Yeah, that would be the day, Freak and Frak using common sense for once.

325 posted on 08/11/2006 9:03:57 AM PDT by apro
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To: abb
It's here!

RECALL NIFONG - VOTE CHEEK

THE PEOPLE OF DURHAM COUNTY TAKE BACK THE DA'S OFFICE

THURSDAY, AUGUST 10, 2006

Dear Friends and Neighbors,

The Committee to Recall Nifong - Vote Cheek was formed on August 9, 2006 as a political action committee to campaign for Lewis Cheek in the upcoming election for District Attorney. While Mr. Cheek has declined to campaign for this office, and has stated that he will not accept the position if elected, we believe that this election, and the referendum on Mr. Nifong that it has become, is not about politics but rather about Durham and what Durham stands for.

http://recallnifong.blogspot.com/

326 posted on 08/11/2006 11:01:26 AM PDT by Ken H
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Thread bosses-- Does "Recall Nifong -Vote Cheek" warrant a new thread?


327 posted on 08/11/2006 11:14:08 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: SarahUSC
I'm not sure what Kim Willis is thinking.

Kim Willis is obviously a radical fem. The radical fem DV crowd cooked up the "abuse of animals equals domestic violence" bit.

The fems like those laws because only men will be prosecuted under the animal rights laws.

328 posted on 08/11/2006 11:42:19 AM PDT by Fido969 (Don't tread on me.)
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To: Ken H

If y'all say so. I'll put it up in a bit. Been on the road this morning...


329 posted on 08/11/2006 12:23:58 PM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: abb

Link to new thread...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1682022/posts?page=1


330 posted on 08/11/2006 1:20:09 PM PDT by abb (The Dinosaur Media: A One-Way Medium in a Two-Way World)
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To: JLS

Yeah. I've thought of that too. And whoever the judge is, that person is going to have alot of power.


331 posted on 08/11/2006 3:07:03 PM PDT by SarahUSC
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To: SarahUSC

Does anyone else find the items taken from Reade's room a bit bizarre?

1. The box from a verizon cell phone.
2. An Ipod mini
3. An Ipod usb 2 adapter
4. An Apple adapter
5. A scouting report from 12/05
6. 2 surge protectors
7. A photo of Reade with a blonde
8. A photo of four white guys
9. Blank membership papers
10. An Apple printer manual and warranty card
11. Beck "Loser" CD
12. Dell computer information guide

http://www.wral.com/slideshow/dukelacrosse/8884831/detail.html?qs=;s=9;w=800


332 posted on 08/11/2006 5:18:55 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ltc8k6
5. A scouting report from 12/05

6. 2 surge protectors

Now those items are going to be some key evidence. I feel much safer knowing the Durham police department is so competent. (/sarcasm )

11. Beck "Loser" CD

I think the cops just wanted this for themselves.

333 posted on 08/11/2006 5:28:43 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Freee-dame

bump


334 posted on 08/15/2006 12:18:34 PM PDT by Freee-dame
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