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Actually you are the one who is off target completely....

Many who accept evolution are indeed atheists...

Many who accept evolution also consider themselves to be Christians, to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ...take note, they dont ask you who is and who is not a Christian, because your opinion does not matter...if someone says, that they support evolution, and that they also have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, I take them at their word...you may not chose to do so, as throughout the thread, I have noticed your take, that certain folks who consider themselves to be Christians, apparently dont fall into the 'approved' category, of who you do and dont believe to be a Christian...as I said, your opinion of who is and who is not a Christian does not matter one bit...its only your personal opinion, and really, nothing more....

Just because someone says that they support evolution, and that they are Christians, and that they believe that God started everything, and used evolution to create, does not put that person into the ID camp...the ID camp seems to grant that God may be completely dead, or that the intelligent designer could have been aliens from outer space...I have yet to find as Christian religion which believes that God is dead, or that creation was started by space aliens..and ID requires a designer, which science and evolution do not...

Many of the evolution supporters on these CREVO threads, are indeed Christians, consider themselves so, and are in no way an advocate of the ID notions...

You have described an "intelligent" aspect to the world's design. That is what we call ID. No, that is a completely different arena. ID says that an Intelligent Designer reached in DURING EVOLUTION and jiggled the wires at various points. It says that speciation and marvels such as the human eye could not have come about via un-patrolled evolution.

Apparently you aren't on the same page of TToE as others, and apparently you have no clue what you are arguing against.

Oh, I am. You don't seem to be on the same page as CR/Id'ers (see everyone how I sill use the new PC term?). TToE is silent on a Creator, one way or the other. As is all true science. It uses the Scientific Method to identify physically measurable phenomenon to explain the Universe.

Thas is NOT ID.

Amazing. You have described an "intelligent" aspect to the world's design. That is what we call ID.

That may be what YOU call ID, but what the ID movement leaders like Wells, Johnson, Behe and Dembski call ID is very different. They assert that there are some aspects of life that CANNOT have developed through purely natural processes, and therefore required the direct intervention of God.

As Ken Miller points out, correctly, the phrase "intelligent design" is really a misnomer, because it identifies a movement that asserts the universe WAS NOT designed intelligently enough for life to evolve without direct divine intervention.

So, for what it's worth, yes, I (and a lot of Christian scientists) believe that the universe and its physical laws were intelligently designed so that life, as well as the human body, would eventually come about through purely natural processes.

But that is not "intelligent design" as it is defined by the leaders of the movement that bears the name.