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Darwinian Conservatism: How Darwinian science refutes the Left’s most sacred beliefs.
The American Thinker ^ | 23 July 2006 | Jamie Glazov and Larry Arnhart

Posted on 07/23/2006 8:49:26 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

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To: CarolinaGuitarman
If the age that is demonstrated is nowhere near the actual age . . .

If you had a way to determine geologic ages by direct observation rather than through inferences and guesswork then you might have a case. As it stands, however, you only have foggy notions about the age of the form of those things you have been given to observe. You have no case for intimating God as a prevaricator. The case is much greater when it comes to the possibility that we are the ones inclined to deceive, not God.

Meanwhile, shame on Chrysler for being so deceitful as to build a car with retro design; a car that looks older than it really is. And shame on those deceitful people who apply antique finishes to new furniture for the very purpose of making it look old. Has it ever occurred to you that the appearance of old age might be a matter of aesthetics?

But then it is characteristic of the apostles of evolutionism to get hung up on appearances with little concern for the substance. Thankfully the better part of science is not so lazy and dogmatic at the same time.

601 posted on 07/25/2006 4:20:21 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: freedumb2003

If mine is a philosophical question, then yours is a philosophical statement: that if the earth is older than it appears then God is deceitful. You already seem entirely disinclined to believe what He says about Himself. It should come as no surprise you find little problem in setting yourself up as His judge, even though you haven't the faintest notion scientifically how old is the matter that comprises your body.


602 posted on 07/25/2006 4:25:39 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Fester Chugabrew
He says about Himself. It should come as no surprise you find little problem in setting yourself up as His judge, even though you haven't the faintest notion scientifically how old is the matter that comprises your body.

I draw conclusions based on the evidence at hand. If God plants false evidence, then it is trickery of the worst kind.

But I am not judging Him, because He didn't. You need to let go of your sophomoric "what is time" argument. We are starting to be embarrassed for you.

603 posted on 07/25/2006 4:37:43 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (A Conservative will die for individual freedom. A Liberal will kill you for the good of society.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Stop evading. You said that it would not be deceitful for God to make the universe look old but be very young.

That's not a loving, honest, God.

Luckily he only exists in your mind.

This is over Fester. Your logical contortions are boring.


604 posted on 07/25/2006 5:18:55 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: freedumb2003

The "what is time" question is hardly sophomoric. It happens to have much to do with our interpretation of the evidence. You speak so confidently of your conclusions when in fact the tools of measurement you have are weak. For the most part you parrot what others say, accepting their word by faith and passing it along. Your conclusions about the age of the earth are little more than a wild guess.


605 posted on 07/25/2006 5:29:57 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
You said that it would not be deceitful for God . . .

No, I asked how it would be deceitful, and you, as usual, have not answered the question. It is you who are being evasive, not I. Tell me how it is that creating something with the appearance of age is necessarily deceitful, when in fact many people do the same thing just for the sake of aesthetics. Are you somehow privy to the motivations of God? Have you somehow directly observed the age of the earth? I didn't think so.

606 posted on 07/25/2006 5:33:31 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
I had to laugh at your last post. No offense, but it is impossible to ignore the irony of your last post.

I think you have been the one who has evaded a question put to you many times. You could answer the simple question that has been put to you many times over. I can't see why you would be so afraid.

Oh, and why do you have to be such a smart aleck all the time. That is what they do at the democrat websites.

Have a good day.

607 posted on 07/25/2006 5:41:39 AM PDT by bwc (Big Centralized Government is turning us into just another clone of the European States)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Bye Fester. You're too boring today.


608 posted on 07/25/2006 5:50:28 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: bwc
"I had to laugh at your last post."

Take your meds and you won't have that problem.

"I think you have been the one who has evaded a question put to you many times."

I think you would love that to be true.

Good day.
609 posted on 07/25/2006 5:52:17 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: PatrickHenry
Very good!

I didn't know you had it in you. (and if I did, I should have moved farther away).

610 posted on 07/25/2006 5:52:52 AM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: freedumb2003
... "Can God make a rock so big even he can't lift it?" "What happens when the Irresistible Force meets the Unmovable Object?"

Remind you of the sophomore college days when we would all get drunk and talk passionately about totally meaningless crap while thinking we were breaking philosophical ground?

Or listen to any George Carlin album. It would've saved a semester's tuition.

611 posted on 07/25/2006 6:08:32 AM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: stands2reason
Not me. THEM. It's always THEM. Since they put the radio chip into my head, I have no choice.
612 posted on 07/25/2006 6:10:59 AM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
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To: A0ri
Evolution's core argument is that life was created from raw natural process.

Odd statement considering that the title of Darwin's book on the subject is "The Origin of Species."

613 posted on 07/25/2006 6:47:41 AM PDT by Condorman (Prefer infinitely the company of those seeking the truth to those who believe they have found it.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Meds?

Again, the irony can't be missed.

You seem to have an anger problem. Get out of the house more, take some long walks and don't forget the meds you mentioned.

Have a day.

614 posted on 07/25/2006 7:09:42 AM PDT by bwc (Big Centralized Government is turning us into just another clone of the European States)
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To: bwc

Bye troll.


615 posted on 07/25/2006 7:12:44 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
The irony of your comments never ceases. You are definitely a troll.

You use the liberal tactic of resorting to insults and namecalling when you are afraid to answer questions.

Your manner and the things you tend to focus your anger on are the same as any average koolaid drinking ACLU member. In fact, there is no discernable difference between you and an extreme secular liberal.

Now, have some guts instead of just tossing around insults as an excuse to hide your cowardice.

Have a day troll.

616 posted on 07/25/2006 7:20:03 AM PDT by bwc (Big Centralized Government is turning us into just another clone of the European States)
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To: bwc

Bye troll. :)


617 posted on 07/25/2006 7:20:58 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
I knew you would not try to defend your indefensible extreme liberal attitude and adolescent insulting style. Liberal trolls all sound alike, they sound like you.

Don't forget to mail your monthly dues to the ACLU since you are one of them.

Now beat it Troll.

618 posted on 07/25/2006 7:29:49 AM PDT by bwc (Big Centralized Government is turning us into just another clone of the European States)
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To: bwc

Bye Troll. :)


619 posted on 07/25/2006 7:32:01 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: bwc
Just more evidence that you really are a troll. You might need to get that yellow stripe on your back repainted after this thread.

Beat it back to DU, troll, you don't belong on a conservative forum.

620 posted on 07/25/2006 7:40:30 AM PDT by bwc (Big Centralized Government is turning us into just another clone of the European States)
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