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When will it be time to expel Muslims

Posted on 07/22/2006 10:43:33 PM PDT by numapompilius

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TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: islam; lgf; terrorism; unconstitutional
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To: sinkspur

"None of those shooters, as I recall, were members of terrorist organizations. All three were local malcontents; the last guy was a baptized Christian."

When has membership been a requirement? The last guy called himself a "Muslim" before opening fire.

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/3450


321 posted on 08/06/2006 12:23:36 PM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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To: Peisistratus

He's in jail. He will be tried and convicted. That's not enough for you?


322 posted on 08/06/2006 12:25:00 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur

"He's in jail. He will be tried and convicted. That's not enough for you?"

Lying about his motivation helps how? You want the public to remain asleep in this time of war (as the President has rightly referred ot it). Why is that?


323 posted on 08/06/2006 12:27:43 PM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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To: Peisistratus
Take it up with Ali Sina.

He's a busy man. How about you jsut point me to the page of his that you cut and pasted from? I can compare the evidence myself.

Saves typing from my printed copy.

Also saves you from typing the correct citations.

Statistically, they appear to hold to a different Koran than you.

That might explain why they are wrong.

A certain Ibn Ishaq, for one.

The 8th century historian?

If Islam wants to be respected as a "great faith", it needs to start acting like one.

Similarly, if you want your thoughts on Islam to be respected, you need to start acting like someone who actually thinks about Islam. This Rathergate moment of yours doesn't help you.

324 posted on 08/06/2006 12:45:40 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: zimdog
"He's a busy man. How about you jsut point me to the page of his that you cut and pasted from? I can compare the evidence myself."

www.faithfreedom.org

"That might explain why they are wrong."

Ah, so they're all wrong and you're right. Talk about chutzpah. You have said you aren't Muslim yourself... You base your better knowledge on what, exactly?

"Similarly, if you want your thoughts on Islam to be respected, you need to start acting like someone who actually thinks about Islam."

I don't care one bit if YOU don't respect my viewpoint on Islam. Many here do.

"This Rathergate moment of yours doesn't help you."

When you cut and paste from a online reference its all to the good. If anyone who disagrees with you does, they're Dan Rather.

You're amusing, in a stunted college kid manner.
325 posted on 08/06/2006 12:50:22 PM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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To: Peisistratus
You've been whipped on deporting Muslim citizens, so now you want to turn the Seattle shooter into Osama bin Laden.

The public is not asleep; and this guy will be dealt with according to the law.

326 posted on 08/06/2006 2:03:45 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Peisistratus
www.faithfreedom.org

Yes. I know the site. But when I used its search engine to find the text of the Qur'anic verses you cut and paste, nothing came up. Now, when I did a global Google search for those same translations, prophetofdoom.net pages were the first of only 45 web pages found with the text of those four citations. The other pages are mostly comments pages at Jihad Media sites (LGF, JihadWatch, etc) and the text is clearly cut and pasted from prophetofdoom.net.

Ah, so they're all wrong and you're right.

Other people share my views.

Talk about chutzpah. You have said you aren't Muslim yourself... You base your better knowledge on what, exactly?

One could ask you the same question.

I don't care one bit if YOU don't respect my viewpoint on Islam. Many here do.

It's a FreeRepublic ... and listening to unhinged, bigotted rants is not a crime.

When you cut and paste from a online reference its all to the good. If anyone who disagrees with you does, they're Dan Rather.

When I cut and paste from a translation of the Qur'an, I will give the translator and/or the source website. When you cut and paste prophetofdoom.net's dubious textual "evidence" -- without bothering to check prophetofdoom.net's botched citations -- without acknowledging the origin, that's intellectually dishonest. And then, when confronted with this fact, you deny it.

327 posted on 08/06/2006 2:09:26 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: sinkspur

"The public is not asleep; and this guy will be dealt with according to the law."

Denying his motivation helps how?


328 posted on 08/06/2006 2:12:56 PM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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To: zimdog
"But when I used its search engine to find the text of the Qur'anic verses you cut and paste, nothing came up. "

Look a bit further.

"Other people share my views."

They don't appear to be very prominent within Islam.

"It's a FreeRepublic ... and listening to unhinged, bigotted rants is not a crime."

So, you've heard Muslim sermons? I'm sure you'd have said the same things about those who didn't care much for Bushido and what it brought to us.... You'll be a good little Dhimmi. Perhaps they'll kill you last?

"And then, when confronted with this fact, you deny it."

On what basis you do you claim that these translations are botched? Oh, wait. You only believe the ones that fit your PC multicultural viewpoint.
329 posted on 08/06/2006 2:15:53 PM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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To: Peisistratus
What is his motivation? One guy who hates Jews?

There are lots of white Christians who hate Jews too.

330 posted on 08/06/2006 2:16:07 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: sinkspur

"What is his motivation? One guy who hates Jews?"

He called himself a "Muslim".

"There are lots of white Christians who hate Jews too."

Actually, that's a pretty small number these days. Jesus was a Jew himself, after all.


331 posted on 08/06/2006 2:17:43 PM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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To: Peisistratus
Actually, that's a pretty small number these days.

How do you know that? Did Mel Gibson surprise you?

332 posted on 08/06/2006 2:34:04 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Peisistratus
Look a bit further.

Nice dodge. I looked. They weren't there. If you think they are there, show me.

They don't appear to be very prominent within Islam.

Just because you don't hear about them in the Jihad Media doesn't mean their not prominent.

'm sure you'd have said the same things about those who didn't care much for Bushido and what it brought to us....

First it was "Radical Shintoism" now Bushido? You must know even less about east Asia than you do about west Asia.

You'll be a good little Dhimmi. Perhaps they'll kill you last?

Perhaps you think that after some citizens are expelled from the country, you won't be among the next?

On what basis you do you claim that these translations are botched?

You claim to be using the Yusuf Ali translation. His version of 66:1 is completely different than what you quoted.

You only believe the ones that fit your PC multicultural viewpoint.

I don't believe the misattributed verses at prophetofdoom.net quote the correct passages of the Qur'an, if they quote any at all.

333 posted on 08/06/2006 2:40:26 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: Peisistratus
Actually, that's a pretty small number these days. Jesus was a Jew himself, after all.

Whenever a comedian playing a farcical stereotype can get half an Arizona bar to join him in singing a lively round of "throw the Jew down a well", then that "pretty small number" is too damn big.

334 posted on 08/06/2006 2:44:12 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: Peisistratus
He called himself a "Muslim".

He also got baptized. I don't see either faith rushing to claim him though.

335 posted on 08/06/2006 2:46:58 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: zimdog

"Whenever a comedian playing a farcical stereotype can get half an Arizona bar to join him in singing a lively round of "throw the Jew down a well", then that "pretty small number" is too damn big."

When did that happen? Regardless, that hardly compares to the viruelence that results in actual murder, persecution, and war in the Middle East.


336 posted on 08/06/2006 9:09:25 PM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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To: zimdog
"Just because you don't hear about them in the Jihad Media doesn't mean their not prominent."

I don't hear about them in any media or reference book.

"First it was "Radical Shintoism" now Bushido? You must know even less about east Asia than you do about west Asia."

Shinto was the state religion of Imperial Japan. Bushido was an outgrowth of that.

"Perhaps you think that after some citizens are expelled from the country, you won't be among the next?"

I'm not a Muslim, son.

"You claim to be using the Yusuf Ali translation. His version of 66:1 is completely different than what you quoted."

My printed copy is Maulana Muhammad Ali's translation. I really don't care enough about this argument to quote from it. Who's Yusuf Ali?

"I don't believe the misattributed verses at prophetofdoom.net quote the correct passages of the Qur'an, if they quote any at all."

Of course you don't. It doesn't match your preconceived notions that all cultures are equal and 3rd world ones are more equal. Let me guess: humanities major? Sociology?
337 posted on 08/06/2006 9:14:54 PM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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To: sinkspur

"How do you know that? Did Mel Gibson surprise you?"

Yes, he did. Of course, the Christians who stand behind Israel tend to be Protestants.....


338 posted on 08/06/2006 9:16:10 PM PDT by Peisistratus (Islam delende est)
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To: Peisistratus
When did that happen?

2002 or 2003, I think. See the video for yourself.

http://www.webgeordie.co.uk/borat/usa_country.htm

Regardless, that hardly compares to the viruelence that results in actual murder, persecution, and war in the Middle East.

It's vile. Don't make excuses.

339 posted on 08/06/2006 9:24:26 PM PDT by zimdog
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To: Peisistratus
Yes, he did. Of course, the Christians who stand behind Israel tend to be Protestants.....

What do you mean by that?

340 posted on 08/06/2006 9:26:52 PM PDT by zimdog
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