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Durham Police Begin Probe Of Alleged Assault At Raleigh Bar (Investigators under investigation)
WRAL.com ^ | July 22, 2006 | WRAL .com

Posted on 07/22/2006 4:18:08 PM PDT by TommyDale

DURHAM, N.C. -- Officials say they are investigating an alleged assault involving Durham police officers outside a Raleigh bar.

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TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: chalmers; coffee; comegetsome; corruption; couch; crime; cupofjoe; donutwatch; duke; dukelax; durhampolice; gottlieb; hatecrime; jakki; lacrosse; myspace; nifong
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I even posted on a blog that on the Radio they were saying on of the 2 that got in the guy's face was BALD - I just checked.

The theory is that BALD guy that was aggressive and was one of the first to aggressively approach the cook, with bad intentions, was NOT charged.

So maybe these other guys kicked or shouted, but there's a guy central to this thing that wasn't charged.
The News Media even thought the cook was describing Gottlieb, that's why ONLY his picture was next to so many of the articles. The Radio hosts (with sources) certainly thought Gottlieb was the one at risk in this thing.

I don't know exactly what happened or the thought process, but someone's involvement was overlooked. In NC, assault has an extremely low standard - the "victim" need only feel threatened. The bald guy should be charged by any standard in my opinion.

The other guys were expendable!


1,401 posted on 07/27/2006 8:00:46 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: maggief

GRIFFIN STEPHEN JAMES SR 1994 NISS TRK TK PIC
Still looking
Tanner lives in Raleigh


1,402 posted on 07/27/2006 8:01:12 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

TANNER, SCOTT CHRISTIAN 0501797860 1996 DMV 88 VOLK FGL
(Wake county)


1,403 posted on 07/27/2006 8:03:48 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: maggief

I think the group may be down. Alisha may not have enjoyed her note posted on FR.

I wonder if Alisha Gaines has heard of FERPA, the terms of which she violated with her note. I wonder what her bosses at Duke would think about that.


1,404 posted on 07/27/2006 8:04:45 PM PDT by JoanOfArk
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

"black Nissan pickup"


1,405 posted on 07/27/2006 8:04:49 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Lee Lives in Franklin County--looking


1,406 posted on 07/27/2006 8:06:25 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Cash Michaels calls it a "black Nissan Titan"


1,407 posted on 07/27/2006 8:07:43 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

http://deeds.co.franklin.nc.us/Resolution/Login.asp

Someone with a NC address will have to register to search the tax bills.
Seems to be free.


1,408 posted on 07/27/2006 8:08:36 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; maggief

Griffin is NOT charged.

I'm feelin' a big coverup here.

In NC, where the standard is only that the victim FEEL threatened, If I approach someone aggressively - Yell and Insult them - and then surround them with my friends and my friends kick at them - I'm getting charged IF caught.
No doubt - not even a little. One only has to look to Finnerty to see that he didn't touch the victim - both sides agreed. But, the Judge found that Finnerty was the instigator and he "menaced" the man. NEVER touched him.

This is more Dirty Durham Dealing, I just don't see how someone central (Bald guy) gets away without being charged - and isn't punished internally for actions unbecoming of an officer or Police Supervisor.

However, if they handed out that internal punishment, they'd be taking a big whack out of the Duke case. My contention is that Durham was NOT going to risk that case no matter what.


1,409 posted on 07/27/2006 8:09:35 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: maggief

I am looking for a blk Nissan p/u?


1,410 posted on 07/27/2006 8:09:37 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: JoanOfArk

I am probably the only one who doesn't know this, but, what does UBUNTU stand for?


1,411 posted on 07/27/2006 8:11:40 PM PDT by old and cranky (You! Out Of The Gene Pool - Now!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Yeah, like your post #102

Does it list the color? check the transactions and the statement links in the right hand columns.


1,412 posted on 07/27/2006 8:12:09 PM PDT by maggief
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

2004 8244070 4263537
GRIFFIN JAMES ARTHUR JR 1992 HOND UEX 4S ACC $3,590.00

29 2005 8280460 4471047
GRIFFIN JAMES ARTHUR JR 2002 FORD SPE MP ESC $11,790.00

30 2006 8280460 4931199
GRIFFIN JAMES ARTHUR JR 2002 FORD SPE MP ESC $10,150.00
31 2005 8309447 4752075
GRIFFIN STEPHEN JAMES 2004 CHEV AST VN VAN $12,720.00


1,413 posted on 07/27/2006 8:12:26 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

GOTTLIEB, MARC SHERMAN 0506965889 2005 DMV 2001 FORD TK
49 GOTTLIEB, MARK DAVID 0506950090 2005 DMV 2003 FORD MP
50 GOTTLIEB, MARK DAVID 0507186183 2005 DMV 2004 TOYT 4S


(WAKE COUNTY)


1,414 posted on 07/27/2006 8:14:31 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: maggief

brb


1,415 posted on 07/27/2006 8:16:06 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: old and cranky

It's one of those made-up words, supposedly zulu, which means humanity, unity, sense of community. It applies to people of color only.


1,416 posted on 07/27/2006 8:17:21 PM PDT by JoanOfArk
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

CLAYTON, RICHARD DONALD 0506639707 2005 DMV 1996 FORD PI
4 CLAYTON, RICHARD DONALD 0506820612 2005 DMV 2003 HOND 4S
5 CLAYTON, RICHARD DONALD 0507046116 2005 DMV 2005 TOYT TK


No color listed on bills.
Nissan and Toyota could be confused???


1,417 posted on 07/27/2006 8:21:07 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; maggief; JLS; jennyd; SarahUSC; TommyDale; Jezebelle; All

Gottlieb is 43 years old.,

However, the BALD guy was NOT charged. That alone indicates a cover up or injustice is in progress. This is a Major News Outlet - ABC.

ABC said:
""I don't have to do it,'' the man allegedly said. "He's going to do it,'' and pointed to the driver of the Nissan.

Thomas described the initial perpetrator as about 6'1", medium build, bald and with no facial hair."

So the Bald man says - He's going to do it. That is involvement, aggression, instigation, and if he's a Supervisor there are more psychological factors involved.

If the Bald guy's name was Mr. Clean - he should've been charged, yet he wasn't - we know that. They had pictures on the local TV of these two guys tonight and both have hair.


1,418 posted on 07/27/2006 8:21:43 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: maggief

It seems most of them do not live in Durham County....


1,419 posted on 07/27/2006 8:23:31 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: JLS
There are several reasons for an active campaign in support of Cheek.

1. There were at least 9800 registered votes who were willing to go on record in support of Cheek. I don't think anyone disputes that this petition was anything but an anti-Nifong referendum.

2. It is reasonable to assume that these 9800+ would cast a vote for Cheek in the November election. Recall that Nifong got 11,168 votes in May, or 45% of registered Democrat voters.

3. Let's say Nifong gets 60% of the vote in November election. That is not the same as beating an opponent in a landslide. Such an outcome would show is that 40% of the voters are so dissatisfied that they would vote to put someone in office who said he doesn't want the job and won't accept it.

4. It would also indicate that a sizeable minority of the jury pool is not buying the rape hoax. Remember potential Durhamite jurors-- YOU DO NOT HAVE TO CONVICT. I don't think Judge Titus can stop the blogs and talk radio from beaming that message into occupied territory:)

5. I'm not sure how much is spent on a DA race, but it can't be that much. I would think enough people around the country could raise sufficient money to buy radio and TV ads, full page ads in the N&O, etc. It would also be interesting to see what a focused campaign from cyberspace could do.

6. Here is a profile of Durham voters such a campaign could reach--

[According to the latest voter registration figures, Durham County has 27,070 registered Republicans, 24,566 of whom are white. The county has 86,621 registered Democrats, 46,586 of whom are black. So the demographic bloc supportive of Nifong's behavior formed a majority of the Democratic electorate, while those most likely to be alienated by his tactics couldn't vote in the primary. As the director of the Durham County Board of Elections noted the day after the primary, "We had a lot of irate, irate Republicans who couldn't vote for district attorney."]

--http://hnn.us/blogs/entries/25357.html

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Final point-- I think a defeat of Nifong is still a long shot, but definitely not out of the question. If nothing else, the higher the number Cheek receives, the worse for Nifong. If we do nothing and he gets 80%, it's a propaganda victory for the SOB. I'm willing to donate a decent chunk of change to such an effort.

1,420 posted on 07/27/2006 8:23:47 PM PDT by Ken H
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