[Jameison]

"All of those examples you gave are of something being overtaken by the next generation"

All those examples I gave had nothing to do with Microsoft "stealing" anything from Apple, because up to today , Apple still doesn't have any of those products or their equivalents on the market.





"Microsoft's iPod equivalent is at the same stage in its development as the current iPod's replacement is at Apple"


Now how would you know that?
From everything I have heard, Microsoft's iPod killer is of an order of magnitude more advanced than anything Apple has in the market.


"Remember, MSN was supposed to destroy AOL.and it's been a flop for much the same reasons"

Is that why MSN has greater web traffic worldwide than AOL?
And AOL is a pale shadow of it's previous self?

"Passport? Yeah, that didn't work out so well"

MSN Hotmail is the biggest email provider on the planet by far.
And MSN messenger is the #1 provider of instant messages on the planet.
Not bad for a "failure" is it?

[Spktyr]

I didn't say anything about stealing stuff from Apple. You must have me confused with another poster.

From Microsoft's own descriptions, it appears to be nothing that's not already on the market, or that Apple doesn't have in an iPod (except maybe the mostly useless wireless stuff).

MSN does not have more *subscribers* than AOL, which is what counts.

MS *bought* Hotmail, they didn't invent it, and is rapidly losing marketshare to Google's Gmail.

MSN Messenger is only the leader there because it comes on every PC.