[Spktyr]

I didn't say anything about stealing stuff from Apple. You must have me confused with another poster.

From Microsoft's own descriptions, it appears to be nothing that's not already on the market, or that Apple doesn't have in an iPod (except maybe the mostly useless wireless stuff).

MSN does not have more *subscribers* than AOL, which is what counts.

MS *bought* Hotmail, they didn't invent it, and is rapidly losing marketshare to Google's Gmail.

MSN Messenger is only the leader there because it comes on every PC.

[Jameison]

"MSN does not have more *subscribers* than AOL, which is what counts. "

Nope.
Dial up subcrsibers is a dying business, and its the backbone of AOL's subscriber base.
Today, its all about wen traffic, and MSN easily clobbers AOL in that.


"From Microsoft's own descriptions, it appears to be nothing that's not already on the market"

That's not what my own impression is.


"MS *bought* Hotmail, they didn't invent it,"

Hotmail had about 6 million users when Microsoft bought it.
Today they have over 400 million users worldwide.

and is rapidly losing market share to Google's Gmail"

Google's Gmail?
How many subscribers do they have again?
They are irrelevant.
Same as Google talk.

[Jameison]

"MSN Messenger is only the leader there because it comes on every PC."

Hah Hah!