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Tour de France: Stage 17 Live Thread (Thursday, July 20, 2006) Col de Joux-Plane
VeloNews.com ^ | July 20, 2006 | VeloNews.com

Posted on 07/19/2006 9:15:41 PM PDT by nutmeg

Stage 17: St. Jean de Maurienne to Morzine-Avoriaz -200.5km

Course: This is almost identical to the stage in 2000 when Marco Pantani attacked on the first climb (the 15km, 6.4-percent Saisies) and forced Armstrong's U.S. Postal squad to chase for 100km over the Aravis, Colombière and Châtillon climbs to the foot of the day's main obstacle: the mighty Col de Joux-Plane (11.7km at 8.7 percent). It was partway up the Joux-Plane that Armstrong bonked and could only watch as Ullrich and others rode away from him, and he conceded almost two minutes by the finish in Morzine.

History: Morzine has seen 13 finishes of the Tour, including that one six years ago, which was the last time the ultra-steep Joux-Plane was climbed in the Tour. The only Tour winner to win a stage into Morzine was Pantani, who scored a solo victory here in 1997, the year before he won the Tour. Morzine's mountaintop neighbor, Avoriaz, has seen stage wins by two other Tour champions, Lucien Van Impe and Bernard Hinault.

Favorites: If riders are still battling for podium spots, then the Joux-Plane climb and descent suits Leipheimer and Landis. But it's more likely that a long-distance break will succeed, giving a rider like Michael Rasmussen a chance to win the stage and the King of the Mountains competition.

Graphics by CyclingNews.com


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: cycling; greenmachine; miracle; tdf; tdfstagethread; tourdefrance
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To: luv2ski

Made it!!! ;>)


601 posted on 07/20/2006 2:13:21 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: leilani; luv2ski

Does nutmeg have a clue as to what happened today? Think she was going to be on the road, wasn't she?


602 posted on 07/20/2006 2:15:25 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: Husker8877
Lazarus always bonked in the mountains. Did most of his best work on a cold flat surface...wrapped in a shroud.

At least he had the yellow shroud for four days.

603 posted on 07/20/2006 2:16:14 PM PDT by luv2ski
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To: Husker8877
Did most of his best work on a cold flat surface...wrapped in a shroud. LOL. Touche!
604 posted on 07/20/2006 2:17:55 PM PDT by leilani
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To: Ready4Freddy

Did you call your friend's wife and tell her about Lloyd's ride today? ;-D


605 posted on 07/20/2006 2:18:49 PM PDT by luv2ski
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To: Ready4Freddy

I think that's what she said, but she always seems to be able to keep up with everything even if she can't post.I'm hoping she gets to have a nice long spa vacation after constructing these threads for us every night.


606 posted on 07/20/2006 2:20:05 PM PDT by leilani
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To: luv2ski
the yellow shroud

Oh gosh, only on FR...lol. You watch, some lazy sports journalist is going to steal all these and work 'em into his lead for tomorrow.

607 posted on 07/20/2006 2:22:45 PM PDT by leilani
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To: luv2ski

Oh, there's no question that Kel is well aware of what's going on. Mike was glued to the set, and she's the sister of a competitive rider out of San Antonio.


608 posted on 07/20/2006 2:31:17 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: luv2ski; baba

And if Bob Roll makes any cracks about a yellow shroud tomorrow, well then we'll know for sure what we've suspected all along: BOBKE=BABA


609 posted on 07/20/2006 2:33:14 PM PDT by leilani
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To: Ready4Freddy

Cool! Another girl in the club!


610 posted on 07/20/2006 2:34:48 PM PDT by luv2ski
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To: luv2ski
Oh, and that was my typo - she said 'Floyd', I typed 'Lloyd'. Didn't mean to make it sound like she was clueless, she's far from it!
611 posted on 07/20/2006 2:38:14 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: leilani

LOL! I will demand an OLN Tour de France package for each of us if he does! ;-D


613 posted on 07/20/2006 2:43:45 PM PDT by luv2ski
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To: Ready4Freddy

OH!!! I thought that part was cute.


614 posted on 07/20/2006 2:44:34 PM PDT by luv2ski
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To: Baynative

Well, if the Top 5 stay the same tomorrow, I dunno if Landis will actually catch/pass Kloden/Menchov/Evans, they were all 43-49" behind him in Stage 7. But if Pereiro Sio or Sastre drop behind Floyd... heheheh, they were both more than a minute behind. If Floyd shows us his stuff, he's more than capable of catching them.


615 posted on 07/20/2006 2:50:58 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: Ready4Freddy

This reminds me of the ITT a couple of years back when Lance and Jan were only a little over a minute apart. It was raining: hideous conditions. Tha morning of the stage, Lance went out and rode the course, studying every inch of it. Jan watched a video of it on TV from his hotel room. Jan fell on the slick payment of a roundabout and slid into the hay bales. Lance rode carefully and won the Tour that day. I stood for the entire last hour of the ITT. I was so nervous about it- especially with the slick roads! I hope this one isn't like that. I am getting too old for this!


616 posted on 07/20/2006 2:59:50 PM PDT by luv2ski
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To: Baynative
I just watched the Pre-race show from this morning that I had not yet seen. It's always fun to see the predictions when you know the stage results! Phil was asked if Landis had any chance of coming back and he said "no, no chance". Paul echoed that sentiment. Bobke picked Landis to win today. He said that today was going to be a big comeback day for Landis! Incredible!
617 posted on 07/20/2006 3:40:22 PM PDT by luv2ski
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To: Ready4Freddy; whattajoke; CyberCowboy777; Aeronaut; jern; concentric circles; Petronski; Voss; ...
Does nutmeg have a clue as to what happened today? Think she was going to be on the road, wasn't she?

We were up in Boston all day today, got home late. Heading to New Jersey to Sean Hannity's Freedom concert tomorrow, then to NYC on Saturday. We won't be back until very late on Saturday (I think). I have about 60 seconds to check out FR tonight...

We managed to watch a tape of today's stage... well, the last 36 or so kilometers. What a STUNNING performance by Floyd Landis! I cannot wait until I have time to watch the entire stage, and read all of the (600+??) comments on this thread. Somehow, some way, I have GOT to see that TT on Saturday. GO FLOYD!

Talk to you all soon... thank you all for your many kind comments, and thanks again, Aeronaut, for taking over the TDF ping list. :o)

618 posted on 07/20/2006 8:30:32 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: BaBaStooey
Hi BaBaStooey-

Did he seriously go with a polka-dotted Colnago C50 in honor of the jersey?

~ Blue Jays ~

619 posted on 07/20/2006 8:44:55 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: joanie-f

He did look unbeatable today.

Does your son still keep in touch with him?

Mustard. :)

You have Email.


620 posted on 07/20/2006 9:09:02 PM PDT by Minuteman23
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