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Tour de France: Stage 17 Live Thread (Thursday, July 20, 2006) Col de Joux-Plane
VeloNews.com ^ | July 20, 2006 | VeloNews.com

Posted on 07/19/2006 9:15:41 PM PDT by nutmeg

Stage 17: St. Jean de Maurienne to Morzine-Avoriaz -200.5km

Course: This is almost identical to the stage in 2000 when Marco Pantani attacked on the first climb (the 15km, 6.4-percent Saisies) and forced Armstrong's U.S. Postal squad to chase for 100km over the Aravis, Colombière and Châtillon climbs to the foot of the day's main obstacle: the mighty Col de Joux-Plane (11.7km at 8.7 percent). It was partway up the Joux-Plane that Armstrong bonked and could only watch as Ullrich and others rode away from him, and he conceded almost two minutes by the finish in Morzine.

History: Morzine has seen 13 finishes of the Tour, including that one six years ago, which was the last time the ultra-steep Joux-Plane was climbed in the Tour. The only Tour winner to win a stage into Morzine was Pantani, who scored a solo victory here in 1997, the year before he won the Tour. Morzine's mountaintop neighbor, Avoriaz, has seen stage wins by two other Tour champions, Lucien Van Impe and Bernard Hinault.

Favorites: If riders are still battling for podium spots, then the Joux-Plane climb and descent suits Leipheimer and Landis. But it's more likely that a long-distance break will succeed, giving a rider like Michael Rasmussen a chance to win the stage and the King of the Mountains competition.

Graphics by CyclingNews.com


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: cycling; greenmachine; miracle; tdf; tdfstagethread; tourdefrance
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To: Baynative; NittanyLion; nutmeg; Eurotwit; leilani; luv2ski; Vision; BaBaStooey; green iguana
I posted an analysis from cyclingnews.com, I think, of the chances of the Top 10 at that point (rest day Monday, i think).

Was it leilani that pointed out that they weren't picking anyone for the Top 5 except Landis?

Now we know why - NOBODY'S got a CLUE!!!

561 posted on 07/20/2006 8:57:47 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Now you sound like Donald Rumsfeld :-)


562 posted on 07/20/2006 8:58:34 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Ready4Freddy
I think its going to be time to add another one to the club!


563 posted on 07/20/2006 8:59:40 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Eurotwit

LOL!! Or Phil, or Paul, or Bobke... ;>)


564 posted on 07/20/2006 8:59:56 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: Ready4Freddy

565 posted on 07/20/2006 9:06:38 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Baynative; NittanyLion; nutmeg; Eurotwit; leilani; luv2ski; Vision; BaBaStooey; green iguana
Chills up & down my spince as I read this from letour.fr. The definitive bitch-slap came early. This move was armstrongian

Landis’ Spectacular Solo Bid!

Seven riders from the Phonak team came to the front at the base of the first climb when the 11 had their maximum advantage (11’10”). Landis’ team-mates rode until they exploded from their rapid tempo; Pena and Moernhout were the last to blow before Landis himself surged… it was not an attack rather a constant acceleration but it dropped all the major contenders: Kloden, Rogers, Evans, Sastre and Menchov held onto Landis’ wheel for a matter of moments but after 3km of climbing the Phonak team captain had obliterated the race. The other yellow jersey was surrounded by team-mates but could do nothing to respond to Landis’ power.

566 posted on 07/20/2006 9:07:03 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: gopwinsin04

True dat!!


567 posted on 07/20/2006 9:12:42 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Ride of His Life: Epic Puts Landis Back Into Contetnion-American Rebounds to Win 17th Stage
MSNBC ^ | 7/20/06 | Pascal Guyot





MORZINE, France - In a stunning turnaround a day after he was all but written off, American rider Floyd Landis moved back into contention at the Tour de France on Thursday, winning the final Alpine stage in a solo finish to jump from 11th to third.

Landis, who lost the leader’s yellow jersey Wednesday after struggling at the uphill finish, bounced back by bursting ahead of the main pack in the first of three tough ascents in the 17th stage.

“After yesterday’s stage I had to do something, because that was a disaster,” Landis told Outdoor Life Network immediately after Thursday’s stage. “The race isn’t over yet. I came here to win the race, and it’s not over yet.”

With the tough Alpine climbs over, Saturday’s individual time trial shapes up as a crucial test in this year’s topsy-turvy Tour. Seven different riders have worn the yellow jersey since the three-week race, which ends Sunday, began July 1.

“I think I can do it,” Landis told OLN. “It’s a long time trial. It’s the only thing left that matters. ... I’m telling you, I want to win the whole race, not just a stage.”

“He reacted like a great champion,” said Frenchman Cyril Dessel, referring to Landis.

The American clenched his right fist in celebration as he crossed the finish and hopped off his bike after completing the 124.3-mile ride in 5 hours, 23 minutes and 36 seconds.

Riders set off from Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne and covered three hard climbs — one of them so hard that it defies classification in cycling’s ranking system — before the speedy descent into Morzine.

Landis erased an extra 30 seconds from his deficit to Pereiro by earning bonus points for winning the stage and placing well in sprints along the course route.


(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


568 posted on 07/20/2006 9:17:09 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: All
The other races...

Youth:

1  	081  	CUNEGO Damiano  LAM  	ITA  	
2 	042 	FOTHEN Marcus 	GST 	GER 	00' 05"

Climber:

1  	058  	RASMUSSEN Mickael  	RAB  	DEN  	163
2 	071 	LANDIS Floyd 		PHO 	USA 	131
3 	143 	DE LA FUENTE David 	SDV 	ESP 	113
4 	014 	SASTRE Carlos 		CSC 	ESP 	99
5 	015 	SCHLECK Frank 		CSC 	LUX 	94
6 	052 	BOOGERD Michael 	RAB 	NED 	93

Sprinter:

1  	065  	MC EWEN Robbie  DVL  	AUS  	252
2 	056 	FREIRE Oscar 	RAB 	ESP 	207

Team:

1  	T-MOBILE TEAM  	
2 	TEAM CSC 		08' 41"
3 	RABOBANK 		12' 31"
4 	AG2R PREVOYANCE 	19' 06"

And shock of all shocks, Landis gets Combatitivity honors today.

569 posted on 07/20/2006 9:24:34 AM PDT by kevkrom (Posting snarky comments so you don't have to)
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To: kevkrom
Good call on Combativité!! ;>)
570 posted on 07/20/2006 9:33:41 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Yeah, I had a hunch today.


571 posted on 07/20/2006 9:34:11 AM PDT by kevkrom (Posting snarky comments so you don't have to)
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To: kevkrom

Wow...damn fine day!


572 posted on 07/20/2006 9:48:29 AM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Minuteman23
The video of Floyd's ride today should be pictured in the dictionary under 'comeback', after his crushing performance yesterday (apparently the result of extraordinarily faulty calculations, on his part).

What an amazing example of instinct, strength, endurance, and resolve today’s performance was! I thought Liggett, Roll and Sherwen were going to suffer from three-way commentating heart failure. :)

I may have already told you this, but it came to mind today as I watched Floyd pull away from the peloton … and then from the breakaway ... to go it alone:

Floyd and our son, Dan, used to ride together for the Green Mountain Cyclery team in Ephrata (maybe 12-13 years ago). Floyd was in the Junior (age 17 and under) Expert class, and yet was consistently beating all of the 'experts'.

One day when Dan was in the shop looking for a repair piece, Floyd came in, breathless from a hard ride, needing a piece of his own. The two of them, and the cyclery owner talked for a while, after which the owner asked Floyd (who was at that time still in high school), 'Hey! Today is Thursday. Aren't you supposed to be in school?'

Floyd simply winked, and said, 'Yes. Your point?'

Dan, who was teaching high school Physics at the time, but for some reason had the day off himself, considered, for a split-second, semi-seriously lecturing Floyd about the irresponsibility of his fairly regular truancy, but somehow thought better of it.

Dan called us this morning and left a single, one-sentence message on the answering machine: 'Damn! I should have skipped school more often!' :)

~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed

P.S. I still stand by my original prediction. (Would you like ketchup or mustard with your hat? :)

573 posted on 07/20/2006 9:51:41 AM PDT by joanie-f (If you believe God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: gopwinsin04

Landis' performance in this stage today is the stuff of legend, and I'm in that same awe usually reserved for Lance himself.

After cracking yesterday and being left for dead, Floyd proves he has the courage and the ability of a true champion.

Legendary...


574 posted on 07/20/2006 9:52:35 AM PDT by Husker8877
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To: Ready4Freddy
Wow! Check out all the posts for today, not even noon yet and most people at work don't even know what happened!It's like Lance all over again around here.

BTW, what do you think these 2 are gonna be talking about at dinner tonight:

7 035 DESSEL Cyril A2R FRA 04' 24"
8 031 MOREAU Christophe A2R FRA 05' 45"

Can't believe he still came in with that time after the horrific spill he took. Spunky little klutz,my Chou-Chou.

575 posted on 07/20/2006 9:57:47 AM PDT by leilani
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To: Ready4Freddy
After today's spectacular ride, I got to thinking how many may not have made the time cut-off. Thinking the cut-off was 13%, I discovered that it was quite a few, so I checked the rules to make sure. Floyd's 37+ kph average made the cut-off 17%! 55 minutes. The worst placed who finished (3 abandoned) was just over 52 minutes back.
576 posted on 07/20/2006 10:13:28 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: green iguana
(AP Photo/Alessandro Trovati)

Floyd just after he broke away.

Yes indeed, that does appear to be the smile of a thief.
577 posted on 07/20/2006 11:07:06 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: green iguana
REUTERS/Stefano Rellandini (FRANCE)

No polka dot bike today.
578 posted on 07/20/2006 11:10:25 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: BaBaStooey

Nothing quite says Big Pimpin Chicken like the pois rouge gloves and socks.


579 posted on 07/20/2006 11:11:38 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: leilani
I think they'll still be in 'WTF happened' mode at dinner! ;>)

BTW, what do you think these 2 are gonna be talking about at dinner tonight:

580 posted on 07/20/2006 11:33:38 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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