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Tour de France: Stage 17 Live Thread (Thursday, July 20, 2006) Col de Joux-Plane
VeloNews.com ^ | July 20, 2006 | VeloNews.com

Posted on 07/19/2006 9:15:41 PM PDT by nutmeg

Stage 17: St. Jean de Maurienne to Morzine-Avoriaz -200.5km

Course: This is almost identical to the stage in 2000 when Marco Pantani attacked on the first climb (the 15km, 6.4-percent Saisies) and forced Armstrong's U.S. Postal squad to chase for 100km over the Aravis, Colombière and Châtillon climbs to the foot of the day's main obstacle: the mighty Col de Joux-Plane (11.7km at 8.7 percent). It was partway up the Joux-Plane that Armstrong bonked and could only watch as Ullrich and others rode away from him, and he conceded almost two minutes by the finish in Morzine.

History: Morzine has seen 13 finishes of the Tour, including that one six years ago, which was the last time the ultra-steep Joux-Plane was climbed in the Tour. The only Tour winner to win a stage into Morzine was Pantani, who scored a solo victory here in 1997, the year before he won the Tour. Morzine's mountaintop neighbor, Avoriaz, has seen stage wins by two other Tour champions, Lucien Van Impe and Bernard Hinault.

Favorites: If riders are still battling for podium spots, then the Joux-Plane climb and descent suits Leipheimer and Landis. But it's more likely that a long-distance break will succeed, giving a rider like Michael Rasmussen a chance to win the stage and the King of the Mountains competition.

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KEYWORDS: cycling; greenmachine; miracle; tdf; tdfstagethread; tourdefrance
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To: BaBaStooey
If the Gap is still 8 or more when they hit Joux Plane, this is going to be an Epic on the edge of our seats climb.

One eye on Floyd, One eye on the clock, and one eye looking to see who POPS in the leaders group.

I think Perreiro is done, the others let him use his legs up on Col du Columbiere.

Will be interesting to see what Sastre, Kloden, and even good ole Dessel have left at that point.

221 posted on 07/20/2006 6:53:33 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: kevkrom

8'43"


222 posted on 07/20/2006 6:53:42 AM PDT by kevkrom (Posting snarky comments so you don't have to)
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To: BaBaStooey
Bob Roll after Lance's Fall on Luz in 2003: 'This is the greatest day of racing I have ever seen.'

Will he have to revise that statement today?

223 posted on 07/20/2006 6:54:31 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

I cannot believe that the chase is not working.

They are going hard now. Just reporting that gap is below 9 minutes now.


225 posted on 07/20/2006 6:55:13 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: BaBaStooey

Letour now shows the gap at 8:43, but the chasers are on a downhill and Floyd is starting the climb. Gap change could be because of that. Or maybe they are finally chasing in ernest.


226 posted on 07/20/2006 6:55:16 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: kevkrom

15:53 CEST 158km/42.5km to go
Landis sits on the point of the saddle, keeping the CSC chase at 8'43. He still has sweat pouring off, and he still looks very determined as he tackles this climb in the big ring, arms over the tops of the bars. He keeps pouring water on his head too.


227 posted on 07/20/2006 6:55:24 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Baynative
Landis and Sinkewitz are 5km from the top of the next climb. Landis continues to lead - and ride with his chain on the big chainring (while Sinkewitz is in the small chainring).

Sink has been hanging out with Jan Ullrich too much.
228 posted on 07/20/2006 6:55:27 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: BaBaStooey

Heheheh, we know him well, don't we? Bob's funny, but kinda predictable at times.


229 posted on 07/20/2006 6:55:30 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: nutmeg
Apologies for being late to the thread, if you need a good link to view the race progress, check out UKk Yahoo's TdF site - there are three main areas - up top, you can use the arrows on the side to navigate back and forth in the field. The middle is live updates, and the bottom has a bar over a diagram of the course displaying where they are currently at, with the shaded portion of the course having already been completed.
230 posted on 07/20/2006 6:56:49 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: BaBaStooey

Probably the ring to be on when you're not trying to get the lead - remember, there's no way that Sink will get out front. I don't even think he'll try to make a major break from Landis


231 posted on 07/20/2006 6:57:02 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: Eurotwit

3:55 PM The peloton
is still 9:05 back... and just coming up to the Cote de Chatillon sur Cluses.


232 posted on 07/20/2006 6:57:07 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Vision
lol, I wasn't ready to give up on the man.

I never gave up on him either!

233 posted on 07/20/2006 6:58:10 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: green iguana

3:57 PM
The peloton is now 8:50 behind Landis. CSC is doing most of the work.


234 posted on 07/20/2006 6:58:55 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

8'38"


235 posted on 07/20/2006 6:59:54 AM PDT by kevkrom (Posting snarky comments so you don't have to)
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To: af_vet_rr

Good page, vet, thanks! But the gap has then riding in the wrong direction!! LOL, just used to rt--->left, I guess


236 posted on 07/20/2006 6:59:55 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: kevkrom

15:59 CEST 161km/39.5km to go
Landis opts for a lower gear as he pedals towards the summit of the Châtillon-sur-Cluses, bidon in hand, keeping his cool. Sinkewitz hasn't been drinking as uch as Landis.

Vandevelde leads the bunch to the foot of the climb, 4 km behind Landis.


237 posted on 07/20/2006 7:00:49 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Ready4Freddy
This is UNBELIEVABLE! How could the peloton let him get away like this? I posted last night that that would NEVER happen! Boy, am I glad to be wrong! Someone posted last night that Landis just didn't have the killer instinct. Today, that has all changed. The Tiger within has awakened!
Now Go! Floyd! Go!
238 posted on 07/20/2006 7:01:18 AM PDT by luv2ski
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To: gopwinsin04

15:58 - Yellow Jersey For A Six-Pack Of Beer...

After Floyd Landis regained the lead of the Tour de France at the top of L’Alpe d’Huez he decided that he wanted a beer to celebrate the moment. On the road down to his hotel, his team car pulled over and the American traded a yellow jersey for a six-pack of beer with a spectator.


239 posted on 07/20/2006 7:02:20 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: Ready4Freddy

15:58 - Yellow Jersey For A Six-Pack Of Beer...

After Floyd Landis regained the lead of the Tour de France at the top of L’Alpe d’Huez he decided that he wanted a beer to celebrate the moment. On the road down to his hotel, his team car pulled over and the American traded a yellow jersey for a six-pack of beer with a spectator.

If he drank them all, then we now know why he had such a bad next day!


240 posted on 07/20/2006 7:02:31 AM PDT by green iguana
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