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Tour de France: Stage 17 Live Thread (Thursday, July 20, 2006) Col de Joux-Plane
VeloNews.com ^ | July 20, 2006 | VeloNews.com

Posted on 07/19/2006 9:15:41 PM PDT by nutmeg

Stage 17: St. Jean de Maurienne to Morzine-Avoriaz -200.5km

Course: This is almost identical to the stage in 2000 when Marco Pantani attacked on the first climb (the 15km, 6.4-percent Saisies) and forced Armstrong's U.S. Postal squad to chase for 100km over the Aravis, Colombière and Châtillon climbs to the foot of the day's main obstacle: the mighty Col de Joux-Plane (11.7km at 8.7 percent). It was partway up the Joux-Plane that Armstrong bonked and could only watch as Ullrich and others rode away from him, and he conceded almost two minutes by the finish in Morzine.

History: Morzine has seen 13 finishes of the Tour, including that one six years ago, which was the last time the ultra-steep Joux-Plane was climbed in the Tour. The only Tour winner to win a stage into Morzine was Pantani, who scored a solo victory here in 1997, the year before he won the Tour. Morzine's mountaintop neighbor, Avoriaz, has seen stage wins by two other Tour champions, Lucien Van Impe and Bernard Hinault.

Favorites: If riders are still battling for podium spots, then the Joux-Plane climb and descent suits Leipheimer and Landis. But it's more likely that a long-distance break will succeed, giving a rider like Michael Rasmussen a chance to win the stage and the King of the Mountains competition.

Graphics by CyclingNews.com


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: cycling; greenmachine; miracle; tdf; tdfstagethread; tourdefrance
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To: commish

Amazing stuff.

Can the miracle last the final climb?


181 posted on 07/20/2006 6:37:26 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: commish
I get the impression that there's been a LOT of back-and-forth in the peloton as to who's supposed to do what/when - your turn, guys, get your team up here & set the pace, damnit! There's no real patron left, no one to control things.

What the hell are they Thinking????

182 posted on 07/20/2006 6:37:26 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (Ever had Vuja de? That feeling that you've never ever been here before? :)
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To: kevkrom

The lead is now 8:19

Virtual GC update (including Floyd's 4 bonus seconds):

Pos. N° Name Surname Team Nat. Gaps
1 071 LANDIS Floyd PHO USA
2 097 PEREIRO SIO Oscar CEI ESP 15"
3 014 SASTRE Carlos CSC ESP 02' 05"
4 021 KLÖDEN Andréas TMO GER 02' 44"
5 035 DESSEL Cyril A2R FRA 02' 58"
6 061 EVANS Cadel DVL AUS 03' 11"


183 posted on 07/20/2006 6:39:11 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: Ready4Freddy

They're thinking that Floyd can't possibly keep this up. Making Pereiro do all the work so that he blows on the last climb and Sastre or Kloden, et al can move up


184 posted on 07/20/2006 6:39:45 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: Ready4Freddy
The rest of the leaders got caught completely by surprise today --by the time they even got remotely organized, Landis was long gone.

They're clearly focusing on breaking Pereiro Sio, but are the other leaders just hoping that Landis can't keep up the pace, or are they going to attack up the final climb?

185 posted on 07/20/2006 6:39:58 AM PDT by kevkrom (Posting snarky comments so you don't have to)
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To: BaBaStooey

The lead is 8:49. Go ahead and add 0:30 to everyone's time from my last update.


186 posted on 07/20/2006 6:40:30 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Good analysis. And just as you said, Floyd is absolutely flying down the descent. Has upped the lead to 8:45.


187 posted on 07/20/2006 6:40:53 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: kevkrom

They're clearly focusing on breaking Pereiro Sio, but are the other leaders just hoping that Landis can't keep up the pace, or are they going to attack up the final climb?

I think both.


188 posted on 07/20/2006 6:41:15 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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To: BaBaStooey

Landis once had his lung capacity tested as equal to Big Mig, he is bidding for the SI Sportsman of the Year Award here!


189 posted on 07/20/2006 6:41:49 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: green iguana

No matter whether Landis can keep (or grow) this gap or not, this should go down as an effort for the ages.


190 posted on 07/20/2006 6:41:54 AM PDT by kevkrom (Posting snarky comments so you don't have to)
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To: commish

OK, 3 Discovery Riders are now at the front of the Peleton. ??leading the chase?? They have no dog in this fight, and Floyd is a former teammate. HMMMMMMM.


191 posted on 07/20/2006 6:42:57 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: kevkrom

9'04"


192 posted on 07/20/2006 6:43:20 AM PDT by kevkrom (Posting snarky comments so you don't have to)
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To: kevkrom

3:36 PM European Time Guess who is now the virtual leader of the Tour? lol


193 posted on 07/20/2006 6:43:36 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Vision
I told you not to worryWell, you must be a psychic! LOL! How did you know that Floyd took some training in kamikaze flying over in Japan this year? Man, I sure hope no manic-depressives are out there watching this.This is gonna set their therapy back for months!
194 posted on 07/20/2006 6:44:07 AM PDT by leilani (Je vais y réfléchir demain. Après tout, demain est un autre jour !- Autant en emporte le vent)
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To: kevkrom

Looks like CSC has started to up the tempo...

Will be interesting to watch the gap now.


195 posted on 07/20/2006 6:44:10 AM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: commish

9 MINUTES!!!! and growing. Un-friggin-believable. Can he make it stick?


196 posted on 07/20/2006 6:44:36 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to protect it.)
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To: commish
Lance doesn't want someone to steal a share of his glory? This may be greater than Lance's comeback from his fall in 2003 on Alpe D'Huez.
197 posted on 07/20/2006 6:44:57 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: leilani
lol, I wasn't ready to give up on the man.
198 posted on 07/20/2006 6:45:36 AM PDT by Vision ("...cause those liberal freaks go to farrrrrr")
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To: kevkrom; All

We are watching sports history unfold before our eyes.


199 posted on 07/20/2006 6:45:52 AM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: Eurotwit

The situation is ripe for Sastre or Kloden to take the maillot jaune out from under Floyd's nose.

If either of them gain enough time on Pereiro and can close the gap Landis has, either can walk away from this thing in yellow. Then it comes down to the final time trial, which would be just plain nuts.


200 posted on 07/20/2006 6:46:15 AM PDT by BaBaStooey (I heart Emma Caulfield.)
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